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Nicely argued, Ruari and Katherine! Personally, I find the gendering

of God (Gott, Dieux, Dios, Dio, etc.) in all Indoeuropean languages

profoundly disturbing. To make things worse, " God " creates " Man " in

" His " image. What does that make of Woman--a failed attempt or a

defective specimen?

 

One of the few things I remember from my high school philosophy

classes is that attributing a gender to the Divine would cast a

serious shadow on Its absolute nature. Bottom line: It's time to make

a few changes in the way we talk about the Divine, and represent It to

ourselves and others.

 

Peace & Love,

 

Sel

 

, " ruari_neill "

<spirit wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> Interesting stuff this. I have been reliably informed by a friend who

> has studies these texts in the original available languages that the

> Hebrew word for God had no gender, i.e. it wasn't defined as either

> male or female. Incidentally, the same is true of " Allah " as used by

> the muslims as the name of God. The imposition of a gender has come

> about, not least by being translated into other languages as in

> English an " it " is only a " thing " whereas many other languages have

> gendered nouns and therefore are not so bothered by a god that is an

> " it " !!

> Personally I believe that the Divine encompasses all that we are

> capable of manifesting and is therefore all genders and none.

>

> Peace,

> Ruari

>

>

> , Katherine Miller

> <katsam19@> wrote:

> >

> > I am sure as well Elektra, because in Genesis it states:

> >

> > 26 " And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our

likeness... "

> > 27 " So God created man in his own image, in the image of God

> created him; male and female created he them. "

> >

> > In my interpretation, and Please correct me if I am wrong, my

> interpretation of it is that either there is a Male God and a Female

> God, or God is both male and female. Either way there is a female

> involved in our creation. This is spoken of before the creation of

> Adam and before the creation of Eve. So I as I said I wish to believe

> that both exist in some form, whether as one or as two beings.

> >

> > Much Love and Peace for all Eternity,

> > Katherine

> >

> > Elektra Fire <elektra.fire@> wrote:

> > I'm sure the word " mother " was often replaced by the

> > word " father " in the bible also...... Or should it be

> > Father/mother God?

> > hee hee

> > Love E x x x

> >

> > --- chrism <@> wrote:

> >

> > > " These works I do are not of me they are of the

> > > Father " and there are many more. >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________

> > All new Mail " The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity

> and ease of use. " - PC Magazine

> > http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Love and Peace for Eternity,

> > Katherine

> >

> >

> >

> > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail.

> >

> >

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Sel,

 

I agree with you!

 

Much Love and Peace for All Eternity,

Katherine

 

selena230 <selena230 wrote:

Nicely argued, Ruari and Katherine! Personally, I find the gendering

of God (Gott, Dieux, Dios, Dio, etc.) in all Indoeuropean languages

profoundly disturbing. To make things worse, " God " creates " Man " in

" His " image. What does that make of Woman--a failed attempt or a

defective specimen?

 

One of the few things I remember from my high school philosophy

classes is that attributing a gender to the Divine would cast a

serious shadow on Its absolute nature. Bottom line: It's time to make

a few changes in the way we talk about the Divine, and represent It to

ourselves and others.

 

Peace & Love,

 

Sel

 

, " ruari_neill "

<spirit wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> Interesting stuff this. I have been reliably informed by a friend who

> has studies these texts in the original available languages that the

> Hebrew word for God had no gender, i.e. it wasn't defined as either

> male or female. Incidentally, the same is true of " Allah " as used by

> the muslims as the name of God. The imposition of a gender has come

> about, not least by being translated into other languages as in

> English an " it " is only a " thing " whereas many other languages have

> gendered nouns and therefore are not so bothered by a god that is an

> " it " !!

> Personally I believe that the Divine encompasses all that we are

> capable of manifesting and is therefore all genders and none.

>

> Peace,

> Ruari

>

>

> , Katherine Miller

> <katsam19@> wrote:

> >

> > I am sure as well Elektra, because in Genesis it states:

> >

> > 26 " And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our

likeness... "

> > 27 " So God created man in his own image, in the image of God

> created him; male and female created he them. "

> >

> > In my interpretation, and Please correct me if I am wrong, my

> interpretation of it is that either there is a Male God and a Female

> God, or God is both male and female. Either way there is a female

> involved in our creation. This is spoken of before the creation of

> Adam and before the creation of Eve. So I as I said I wish to believe

> that both exist in some form, whether as one or as two beings.

> >

> > Much Love and Peace for all Eternity,

> > Katherine

> >

> > Elektra Fire <elektra.fire@> wrote:

> > I'm sure the word " mother " was often replaced by the

> > word " father " in the bible also...... Or should it be

> > Father/mother God?

> > hee hee

> > Love E x x x

> >

> > --- chrism <@> wrote:

> >

> > > " These works I do are not of me they are of the

> > > Father " and there are many more. >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________

> > All new Mail " The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity

> and ease of use. " - PC Magazine

> > http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Love and Peace for Eternity,

> > Katherine

> >

> >

> >

> > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail.

> >

> >

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