Welcome Steve - Alex

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Come Now Alex what kind of a group would this be if a person isn't allowed to

speak his or her mind with these types of subjects. It isn't my Ice rink it is

ours, and though yes I set some of the parameters it isn't a group without

people. People have differing opinions and so I will respond to your welcome

opinions and they are indeed welcome. I will separate with @@ please see below -

 

 

Dharma Wayfarer <dharmawayfarer wrote:

On 'thin ice' advice - well .. I'm likely treading otheon rs' tolerance

for treading without skates on another's rink ... but from all that i 'know' and

from where 'I'm at' ... I wince at the seeming easy sharing and exhaltation of

eye/mind candy ... " astral projection soul recovery, bi-location, telepathy and

all the other 'exalted' skills one passes through on the way towards the

enlightenment "

 

 

@@ These I have found in my experience to be easy. These are not struggle

oriented abilities. No amount of sweat and effort is going to help a person

astral project, for example. Or is the mention of these skills that is out of

sync? Yes these skills are mentioned in the context of ego. The little I. We as

a society here in the West and else ware do communicate from this platform. For

me when the Kundalini came up it magnified natural abilities far beyond what was

normally expressed. Though not all will have similar experience some may have

more and in the context of the Kundalini it is I feel appropriate to mention

these inside a platform that is easily understood. These skills exalted or not

exist and therefore should, imho, be mentioned.@@

 

 

 

 

 

.... each of which, due to predictable grasping mind read unrealized/unripened

ego-identified self who 'possesses' sidhis and feels oh so subtly still that

there's an 'I' who is the possessor', are enough to forestall lifetimes of true

advances towards dissolution of the 'self' and realization of the 'Self' and the

'enlightenment', never mind the ascension which comes only at the perfectionment

of the light body.

 

@@Well Alex in that scenario then even the " Idea " of enlightenment would only be

reserved for those who have attained a certain degree of self immolation before

they could even approach these areas. And it is only in the ignorant usage of

these Siddhis are the persons experience retrograde. The idea that the " common

person " is unable to make the jump from ego mind to God mind (read non-dual) is

not born out by my experience. The " all that is " is around us always and it

also will have an affect upon that common ignorant person when their Kundalini

is raised. Change inside and out happens.

 

Yes there are traps and pitfalls and yes their will be some who will make grave

errors by giving in to fear and insecurities. Meditating under a tree can also

cause one to be crushed by a tree limb so where is there no danger of abuse in

the physical world? The spiritual realms have their dangers to. Where do you

suggest a person begin to reach for enlightenment after how many lifetimes does

this begin to be ok? @@

 

There are many 'guides' who may present themselves to the honest wayfarer, and

many are well-intended, but they cannot lead beyond where they themselves are at

(physician heal thyself - there's reasons why a 'human birth' is considered a

most precious thing ... why do you think 'they' hang around looking to make

connections with 'us'?. Most of the astral travel, psychic circus experience

people are first opened to .. is just that .. the psychic/astral circus ...

where the potential for soul entrapment is high .. because those whose

non-embodied consciousnesses dwell there have access to information/data that

those who are physically embodied (and mostly linearly enabled, within this

dimension/realm) do not. It is very easy to be 'seduced' by the seeming

knowledge and oft' times flattery of those 'beyond' ... but they are not

realized, enlightened, or guided by the 'Divine'

 

@@ Well we certainly agree on this point.Yes not all that is astral is true or

false. We must use discernment. Which we must use here as well it is no

different. As above so below. A baby is easy to seduce and so are those who

adventure into the unknown. I am not suggesting that they do. There is guidance

for people, you have yours and I have mine. This is a fact as I see it. I have

seen my guidance as I am sure you have seen and do see yours at this very

moment. Allowing one to know of these areas isn't inviting them to become a

meal. The dispersal of knowledge with specific warnings is part of what helps

forge the path that very few know of.

 

I do not feel that the path towards enlightenment is meant to be hidden. This

is the real mistake that will send folks back lifetimes. Having been given the

knowledge and not helping others to receive it as well. This is what the

religions have done the priests who would hold these gifts over the heads of

others to imbue themselves with a power that " only they " could have and wield

and this is not true. This is the mistake, and I would have Kundalini taught in

kindergarten if I could.

 

Guidance and entities are par for the course here and to know this isn't to

succumb to lies and falsehoods told to people in order to feed the ego, which

please forgive me, I feel happens to many in the Reiki practice and the medium

ship practices, the channeling practices, all these are all fraught with half

truths , there to be swallowed whole by a hungry audience yearning for the

return of a loved one recently passed or otherwise. I do not advocate this. And

your statements confirm you do not as well.@@

 

 

.... often if one 'Challenges' them, in the name of the I AM THAT I AM ... these

'entities/spirit guides' will simply vanish .. they can't stand the 'heat' of

the Light when it is invoked, as they are not of the Celestial realm wherein

dwells the First Logos

 

@@ There you have offered a teaching and a good one imho @@

 

.. So, yes, consider invoking first and foremost the presence of your higher

self, Your IAM Presence, or the Greater Self, that awaits union with you, ...

call for your guardian angels ... and with their protection, be open to spirit

guides who may present as your helpers ... but feel free to challenge them (as

you should) and their presence ... before you accept them, and challenge again

and again as needed, as if they are of the Light, they will not be offended.

 

@@ Again we agree I would add " as you must " in regards to the challenges. It is

one of the ways we have to practice discernment. And I would add that if

anything feels or appears to be false then stop and question them again and

accept no equivocation @@

 

Well .. I think I heard 'half time' being whistled by the referee ... so I'll

skate off to the locker room.

@@ blessings Alex and no worries about skating anywhere you want around here

OK?- chrism@@

Metta

 

Alex

 

 

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