Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 I just want to explain why I make such a big deal about what happened with this Dr. situation. From the beginning, it was very guided by spirit. I was given powerful visions about him before the second chakra experience you describe. I also was given visual experience of seeing light in his eyes a couple of times and these feelings came up of being in love. I also, after never having anything I knew as metaphysical experiences before, was getting all kinds of other stuff coming up, like spirits driving my body in my car up the hill to the Tibetan Buddhist monastery in Woodstock over and over again before I knew what the place was. I was an ethical humanist and rejected any metaphysical thought until all this stuff came up, so knew nothing aobut any of it. The Dr. turned out to be a Tibetan Buddhist, and, after I was totally guided to give him a Buddha image without knowing why or that he was one or anything about buddhism, he told me what the monastery was and told me to go see the Rinpoche. I was having many visions that I later learned were connected with the lineage, like a lotus blossoming and me, after going in the woods for many days, flying down and touching the earth. Other visions that were related to other spiritual knowledge also came to me, and I received a direct knowledge that truth is found within all of us and through any faith. I received direct knowledge about many other things that were in line with mystic teachings I read later. I ended up walking in on a Chenrezig chant, which is a chant to remove obstacles, and then had experiences that were like jokes from the spirits. Everything moved out of my way. Traffic opened up for me everywhere. My toilets both backed up and then unblocked that night. The effects lasted for a while. While driving around, I would often smell the same incense burning from the offerings as if it were right there in my car. I found that I knew what to do in the monastery without having any experience there before. I found the things I needed for the practices I would show up for. I knew how to chant the Amitahba Sadhana, and participated in the whole thing, which lasted a few days before the new year. I was in a new world that was like walking through a wall. But, as far as the Dr. is concerned, I could not figure out why so many tricks came into my experience that kept leading me back to him. Spirits kept driving me up to signs for Chiropractor offices, which is what he is, and reminding me to go back to him. When I opened the yellow pages for something else, it opened to the Chiropractor page, and when I looked at his name, it sunk into the page. I was having all kinds of experiences like this both related to him and to other things in my life. But I always knew I was supposed to learn something from him. I became obsessed, though, and thought I was meant to be with him at times. I pursued him in the beginning in strange ways that felt like they were coming from outside of me. It was like I was channeling the stuff. I felt like a puppet. I stopped being his client for a while when it got really bad, but I recently tried to start going back there. Only this time I was less separated from myself, so I really feel responsible for my actions. I ended up writing him notes and emails about various things, but it was really just because I wanted to keep communicating with him. I kept having things come up that were connected with him. It was like I was getting led through this experience again but a little differently. Finally, I gave him a gift that was similar to what kinds of things I was giving him last year and would indicate to him that I was trying to make a move again. And that is when he finally slaughtered my EGO. He told me how he thought about people who are recently divorced and other things, basically that I am a " transitional " person, not who I will be later. That is surely true considering this kundalini thing. Anyway, I finally realize that I was led through all of this to watch my ego get killed like that. It was the reason for all of the visions and guides forcing me to look at him and want him like that. that's what I think, anyway. I am a different person for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Yes a different person and better because of it. Now you can begin to live and learn without the shackles and bondage that can come from ego addiction. I suggest you return to the Tibetan place and see where the Lamas will guide you as they are in your area and you have this spiritual history with that lineage. Cant hurt anyway. Keep your tongue up and stay hydrated. If the Kundalini says to do something then do it. Complete surrender now as your egoic burden is lessened. Barefoot on bare earth feeling the flow come up your legs, walking under the Moon at night. Eyes focused on one and a half inches above the bridge of your nose. Keep us informed with your process. These are only suggestions, seems like you have excellent guidance - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 thanks chrism. it is great to get your feedback and support. I suppose you must know how isolating this has been for me all of last year not knowing anything about what was happening to me. It started when I was seeking to be a better mother to my kids and found I had to leave my husband to do it. I also started praying to the Great Spirit at that time, just to give my kids a spiritual relationship with the universe, and the sky fell on my head. Voices from the sunrise, guidance to all kinds of experiences of various faiths, like a meditation that brought up the sound of the shechenah, visions and manifestations. a healer recently explained that trauma does it sometimes, and I have had a lot. yeah, I actually ended up dating a Tibetan Buddhist lama for the last several months, which I was guided to do, but just had to break up with him, because he knows all the stuff, but he is riddled with anger and I can't be around it anymore. but he did help me a lot with information and physical relationship for a time. I am now finding myself led also to mystic beliefs in general. i really connected with the Tibetan Buddhist tantra, then also with some other experiences related to Hindu dieties which are the same dieties really. I had a cool experience recently where I went to a South Indian temple and felt a powerful vibration in my whole body as I stood in front of the diety my friend told me was Shiva. then, when I saw the Dalai Lama for the first time in person last week, I felt the same vibration exactly and recognized that. It turns out that he is considered the incarnation of Chenrezig by the buddhists, which is said to be the buddhist version of that same diety, Shiva! It was amazing to find that out. Yeah, humility feels like a good thing. I have to be honest and say that I have never really been rejected by a man before in my life, and the spirits really made me think this one wanted me. It's pretty funny really. , chrism <> wrote: > > Yes a different person and better because of it. Now you can begin to live and learn without the shackles and bondage that can come from ego addiction. I suggest you return to the Tibetan place and see where the Lamas will guide you as they are in your area and you have this spiritual history with that lineage. Cant hurt anyway. Keep your tongue up and stay hydrated. If the Kundalini says to do something then do it. Complete surrender now as your egoic burden is lessened. Barefoot on bare earth feeling the flow come up your legs, walking under the Moon at night. Eyes focused on one and a half inches above the bridge of your nose. Keep us informed with your process. These are only suggestions, seems like you have excellent guidance - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 You will find that the world and all the dimensions are for your love and enrichment, we are one and here to help. See what skills you begin to develop and use these in a way that is of service to others without getting caught up in the aggrandizement that many fall into. As I write I am not seeing you go this way though - blessings Mandrea - Thank you for your presence - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 How do we search for these skills within ourselves? I am not sure what mine are, other than AP. Will they surface soon or do I need to be patient and wait for their arrival? Love lisa ---- chrism <> wrote: > You will find that the world and all the dimensions are for your love and enrichment, we are one and here to help. See what skills you begin to develop and use these in a way that is of service to others without getting caught up in the aggrandizement that many fall into. As I write I am not seeing you go this way though - blessings Mandrea - Thank you for your presence - chrism > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Oh my god, I feel like I'm in some weird other dimension right now, Mandrea, you have just summerized in a nut shell what I have just been going through. The exact same thing just happened with me and my " Catalyst " I met here in China. I had many messages guiding me to this man and felt I wanted to " be " with him. He is half tibetan. It's been a five month journey. And even a weird buddhist sage turned up at my home in thailand and told me he had a message for me, I would meet a man in China who would " reignite " my fire. He also gave me some kind of kundalini activation which lead to my heart chakra opening, he just kept telling me that he had done nothing and that I had done it myself. I took this message to mean that I would be lovers with him, how else would it happen? I couldn't possibly have imagined what would actually occur, as I knew my sacral chakra was severly blocked off. creative fire. It's been a long journey , to dissolve my self and my ego, to learn dettachment and compassion. To desire, then be catalysed, then have to let go and learn the lesson. I cannot believe the similarites to our story of growth .... thats cosmic x x x Bless you, Tibet sure has a deep and spiritual knowledge in it's lands and people, I feel truley blessed by having been there and recommend it to all... Much love and blessings Elektra x x x --- mandreastewart <mandreastewart wrote: > > I just want to explain why I make such a big deal > about what happened with this Dr. > situation. > > From the beginning, it was very guided by spirit. I > was given powerful visions about him > before the second chakra experience you describe. I > also was given visual experience of > seeing light in his eyes a couple of times and these > feelings came up of being in love. I > also, after never having anything I knew as > metaphysical experiences before, was getting > all kinds of other stuff coming up, like spirits > driving my body in my car up the hill to the > Tibetan Buddhist monastery in Woodstock over and > over again before I knew what the > place was. I was an ethical humanist and rejected > any metaphysical thought until all this > stuff came up, so knew nothing aobut any of it. The > Dr. turned out to be a Tibetan > Buddhist, and, after I was totally guided to give > him a Buddha image without knowing why > or that he was one or anything about buddhism, he > told me what the monastery was and > told me to go see the Rinpoche. I was having many > visions that I later learned were > connected with the lineage, like a lotus blossoming > and me, after going in the woods for > many days, flying down and touching the earth. > Other visions that were related to other > spiritual knowledge also came to me, and I received > a direct knowledge that truth is found > within all of us and through any faith. I received > direct knowledge about many other > things that were in line with mystic teachings I > read later. I ended up walking in on a > Chenrezig chant, which is a chant to remove > obstacles, and then had experiences that > were like jokes from the spirits. Everything moved > out of my way. Traffic opened up for > me everywhere. My toilets both backed up and then > unblocked that night. The effects > lasted for a while. While driving around, I would > often smell the same incense burning > from the offerings as if it were right there in my > car. I found that I knew what to do in the > monastery without having any experience there > before. I found the things I needed for the > practices I would show up for. I knew how to chant > the Amitahba Sadhana, and > participated in the whole thing, which lasted a few > days before the new year. I was in a > new world that was like walking through a wall. > > But, as far as the Dr. is concerned, I could not > figure out why so many tricks came into my > experience that kept leading me back to him. > Spirits kept driving me up to signs for > Chiropractor offices, which is what he is, and > reminding me to go back to him. When I > opened the yellow pages for something else, it > opened to the Chiropractor page, and when > I looked at his name, it sunk into the page. I was > having all kinds of experiences like this > both related to him and to other things in my life. > But I always knew I was supposed to > learn something from him. I became obsessed, > though, and thought I was meant to be > with him at times. I pursued him in the beginning > in strange ways that felt like they were > coming from outside of me. It was like I was > channeling the stuff. I felt like a puppet. I > stopped being his client for a while when it got > really bad, but I recently tried to start > going back there. Only this time I was less > separated from myself, so I really feel > responsible for my actions. I ended up writing him > notes and emails about various things, > but it was really just because I wanted to keep > communicating with him. I kept having > things come up that were connected with him. It was > like I was getting led through this > experience again but a little differently. Finally, > I gave him a gift that was similar to what > kinds of things I was giving him last year and would > indicate to him that I was trying to > make a move again. And that is when he finally > slaughtered my EGO. He told me how he > thought about people who are recently divorced and > other things, basically that I am a > " transitional " person, not who I will be later. > That is surely true considering this kundalini > thing. Anyway, I finally realize that I was led > through all of this to watch my ego get killed > like that. It was the reason for all of the visions > and guides forcing me to look at him and > want him like that. that's what I think, anyway. I > am a different person for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 thank you so much for sharing your story it is amazing how similar it is the spirits of this path are soooo powerful , Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote: > > Oh my god, I feel like I'm in some weird other > dimension right now, Mandrea, you have just summerized > in a nut shell what I have just been going through. > The exact same thing just happened with me and my > " Catalyst " I met here in China. > I had many messages guiding me to this man and felt I > wanted to > " be " with him. He is half tibetan. > > It's been a five month journey. And even a weird > buddhist sage turned up at my home in thailand and > told me he had a message for me, > I would meet a man in China who would " reignite " my > fire. He also gave me some kind of kundalini > activation which lead to my heart chakra opening, he > just kept telling me that he had done nothing and that > I had done it myself. > I took this message to mean that I would be lovers > with him, how else would it happen? I couldn't > possibly have imagined what would actually occur, as I > knew my sacral chakra was severly blocked off. > creative fire. > It's been a long journey , to dissolve my self and my > ego, to learn dettachment and compassion. > > To desire, then be catalysed, then have to let go and > learn the lesson. > I cannot believe the similarites to our story of > growth .... thats cosmic x x x > > Bless you, > > Tibet sure has a deep and spiritual knowledge in it's > lands and people, I feel truley blessed by having been > there and recommend it to all... > > Much love and blessings Elektra x x x > > > --- mandreastewart <mandreastewart wrote: > > > > > I just want to explain why I make such a big deal > > about what happened with this Dr. > > situation. > > > > From the beginning, it was very guided by spirit. I > > was given powerful visions about him > > before the second chakra experience you describe. I > > also was given visual experience of > > seeing light in his eyes a couple of times and these > > feelings came up of being in love. I > > also, after never having anything I knew as > > metaphysical experiences before, was getting > > all kinds of other stuff coming up, like spirits > > driving my body in my car up the hill to the > > Tibetan Buddhist monastery in Woodstock over and > > over again before I knew what the > > place was. I was an ethical humanist and rejected > > any metaphysical thought until all this > > stuff came up, so knew nothing aobut any of it. The > > Dr. turned out to be a Tibetan > > Buddhist, and, after I was totally guided to give > > him a Buddha image without knowing why > > or that he was one or anything about buddhism, he > > told me what the monastery was and > > told me to go see the Rinpoche. I was having many > > visions that I later learned were > > connected with the lineage, like a lotus blossoming > > and me, after going in the woods for > > many days, flying down and touching the earth. > > Other visions that were related to other > > spiritual knowledge also came to me, and I received > > a direct knowledge that truth is found > > within all of us and through any faith. I received > > direct knowledge about many other > > things that were in line with mystic teachings I > > read later. I ended up walking in on a > > Chenrezig chant, which is a chant to remove > > obstacles, and then had experiences that > > were like jokes from the spirits. Everything moved > > out of my way. Traffic opened up for > > me everywhere. My toilets both backed up and then > > unblocked that night. The effects > > lasted for a while. While driving around, I would > > often smell the same incense burning > > from the offerings as if it were right there in my > > car. I found that I knew what to do in the > > monastery without having any experience there > > before. I found the things I needed for the > > practices I would show up for. I knew how to chant > > the Amitahba Sadhana, and > > participated in the whole thing, which lasted a few > > days before the new year. I was in a > > new world that was like walking through a wall. > > > > But, as far as the Dr. is concerned, I could not > > figure out why so many tricks came into my > > experience that kept leading me back to him. > > Spirits kept driving me up to signs for > > Chiropractor offices, which is what he is, and > > reminding me to go back to him. When I > > opened the yellow pages for something else, it > > opened to the Chiropractor page, and when > > I looked at his name, it sunk into the page. I was > > having all kinds of experiences like this > > both related to him and to other things in my life. > > But I always knew I was supposed to > > learn something from him. I became obsessed, > > though, and thought I was meant to be > > with him at times. I pursued him in the beginning > > in strange ways that felt like they were > > coming from outside of me. It was like I was > > channeling the stuff. I felt like a puppet. I > > stopped being his client for a while when it got > > really bad, but I recently tried to start > > going back there. Only this time I was less > > separated from myself, so I really feel > > responsible for my actions. I ended up writing him > > notes and emails about various things, > > but it was really just because I wanted to keep > > communicating with him. I kept having > > things come up that were connected with him. It was > > like I was getting led through this > > experience again but a little differently. Finally, > > I gave him a gift that was similar to what > > kinds of things I was giving him last year and would > > indicate to him that I was trying to > > make a move again. And that is when he finally > > slaughtered my EGO. He told me how he > > thought about people who are recently divorced and > > other things, basically that I am a > > " transitional " person, not who I will be later. > > That is surely true considering this kundalini > > thing. Anyway, I finally realize that I was led > > through all of this to watch my ego get killed > > like that. It was the reason for all of the visions > > and guides forcing me to look at him and > > want him like that. that's what I think, anyway. I > > am a different person for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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