Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 These question also appeared on the OBE list (Which I do reccomend) from one of our beloved and esteemed Kundalini members Droxine! ********************************************************************* Re: Beelzebuub/Belzebuub- from a K activated Christian point of view Please see below interspersed by @@ > > C., > > I've been struggling with concepts of " evil " lately. It has been > said that there are no " evil " souls, only maladapted ones, those > contaminated or perverted in some way by many lifetimes worth of > accumulating negative experiences/actions and not processing the > energy adequately. @@ Negatvity is here and so is positivity (not sure thats a word) Goodness and evil are also present. All souls begin in goodness. In my experience there are souls who have made specific choices that have put them in the " damned " position by virtue of the choices they have made. I mean " damned " in a dual format. Not only are they suffering for those choices, and being forced to inflict, but they are prevented from moving, like a dam holds water back, these souls are in a form of stasis. Souls need to be tempted into the negativity, they need to choose by action or by descision or by allowing sins of commision and ommision biblically speaking. @@ Where do these " lower beings " come from? @@ They come from us. Our darkest thoughts and deeds have much more power than we realize. In the Tibetan culture purposeful thoughts and intentions can form a " Tulku " a being made from the intention of the person. I have done this. I destroyed it quickly. These entities are often allowed to run loose and begin to take on all mannerisms of behavior but mostly negative. And yes you can see them physically as a real normal person appears but they are not. Then there are those who are kept in fear by punishment. If they do not do as they are told from a dark source they are punished with a re-experiencing of a past trauma or a twisted inactment of a trauma on a loved one or themselves. And it is all very real. So the fear goes deep and they obey. These are the ones the Christian was talking about. They are to be pitied. @@ Are they souls who hang > around earth instead of passing on to the spirit world? @@ Yes Ghosts and pieces of consciousness that are remnants of their former selves. They are mostly emotional fragments that are governed by what has occurred. Dark ones (inentionally dark) - who have murdered or committed deep problems for others,they are forced to stay. They are told that they no longer have choice ( which isnt true) and this statement is backed up by severe brutality inflicted upon them. And they stay and do as they are told. @@ Or do you to the " fallen angels " theory? @@ Heh. I feel your sarcasm Droxine. Thats ok. Be very careful about what you dismiss as real and not. If you havent experienced it yourself then you do not know. It is my hope that you never know. I have walked these paths and it is very unpleasant. This was due to the unguided and difficult kundalini that happened for me. It is a razors edge between goodness and evil and diligence is very important and sometimes you fall because you do not know not to, and then you are hurt repeatedly. Wait until you go there before you unleash your indcreduolity- but then after that you wont be incredulous. Experience is worth more than conjecture. Yes the Fallen ones exist I have seen them and they are very condescending towards people. They call us " Apes " " Talking monkeys " etc. They are here to suffer and they do what they can do to inflict pain upon the species of humans. This is in the very low areas of the Astral. Dense. @@ Do you believe in a source of evil? @@ There are many sources from many cultures and time periods. It all gets mixed up and used - on us. Or not. @@ Why are followers of Christ singled out for higher > protection against such entities? @@ The Christians feel that way, and there is an aspect of the Christ Force that is of goodness. And because of this a protection is given. But not because they are " Christians " more so because they make choices based in goodness towards others. Forgiveness and love and compassion and honesty. These are not frivolous qualities@@ > > How do you know when you are facing such an entity and not simply a manifestation of your own dark energy? @@ You dont. It gets treated equally. Why would you expect to know?@@ What do you do for (daily) protection? @@ Right actions. Thoughts and deeds that are as loving as you can make them. Forgivness, compassion, honesty and integrity, truthfullness. These will attract what protection you need as long as you are consistant. @@ And how do you combat them? @@ Combat? No not that. You do what you can do to not attract them in the first place. If they come then you bring love into yourself. Feelings and memories of goodness and joy. Laughter and compassion for them are hard frequencies to match as long as these are real qualities for you and love based. Over and over. @@ What is the use of polarity, as you say? @@The distinction of choice. Understanding balance, Knowledge that allows one to move away from duality. But it is the way things are done in the physical. Polarity and duality same thing. It also represents the cycles of experience, karma and the movement towards what you choose. It contains the lessons we are learning , have learned and have yet to learn. @@ I see the need for some bad in the world in > order to have the choice, but have trouble justifying to myself the > need for the extent of bad we have when I consider the amount of > damage and contamination it causes even to advanced souls. @@ Advanced souls are here of their own free will and yes Karma will occur. Both ends of karma will occur. @@ > > The earth system is known as a difficult classroom. Wouldn't it be > similarly effective in producing robust souls with just a bit less > influence from negative forces? @@ It is important for people (souls) to make the choices that will allow for evolution into the higher states. People are here burning off karma, balancing the slate. They are here to taste physicality or to help a soul group or to hurt and be hurt. Its all about the choices we make, these will bring us back and color the quality of the existance. Negative forces are strong teachers. Fire burns. Shall we do with less fire? Our choices and our actions based in those choices will determine our future learnings and how close we get to the fire. @@ Interested in hearing your views and where they derive from. Thanks. > @@ These are my opinions based upon my experiences and my intuitions you may not feel the same way. You havent walked my path nor I yours, so you will just have to feel the truth or the lack of it for yourself. A man running around calling himself Beelzebub is advertizing his choices imho, I suggest you walk away. - blessings - chrism @@ > x, > Droxine > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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