protection question

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Hi Chrism

 

I am just wondering if you have any suggestions beyond what I have already

received on a

problem I face. I just broke up with the Tibetan Buddhist Lama that I was in a

realtionship

with for the last 8 months. the whole thing was very guided and happened when I

was

under great influence by spirit. I think you will recall some of my story that

I shared

regarding being driven up to the monastery repeatedly before knowing what it was

or why

I was there. Anyway, the lama is a very angry person. I had to end it for this

reason. I

saw my healer to get the physical pain out of my body that was inflicted by this

man's

anger. He is still angry, and I think my son spent the whole night vomitting

one night as a

result of this man's anger being sent to us. I normally don't make these

conclusions, but

it seems very clear this time since he told me he has affected people that way.

I am

avoiding all contact with this man now, and I am not responding to phone

messages. I

finally sent him a note explaining that his anger affected me physically as well

as what

happened to my son. Do you think there is anything I can do to counteract this

energy?

My healer only told me that I had to stop trying to help this man (I did some

energy

healing on him and worked with him when he was sick and also recovering from

hernia

surgeries even though I was ending the relationship, and my healer explained

that I was

getting angry daggers from him the whole time I was trying to help him and that

is what

caused all the pain in my body). I have learned that I should not linger in

this situation for

sure. I did ask spirit to spirit before doing the healings, and the healing

work went well,

even clearing up a bladder infection for him almost immediately, but I guess I

was meant

to learn this lesson. It seems like he is karmically going through his own

lesson now

because of the things he has done to his ex wife and others in the past, because

just as

quickly as I was led into his life, I was pulled out. And he is suffering with

thinking that I

am the best thing that ever happened to him and, in his mind, he has a stronger

attachment than any he has had before. I know this is not about me, but about

what was

presented to him through me, so I see that I cannot take on his attachment. I

am a little

concerned about the energy that might be coming from him into my family now.

Even

when we were together, he started to bring illness into my family and that is

what finally

led me to end the relationship. I know this sounds like a mess, but it was my

lesson to

learn and I am trying to deal with it as I am guided.

 

Any thoughts?

much love

mandrea

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This person is a Lama? Interesting. Well first of course you must know that you are not a victim. You (in your realizations) are in a much stronger and less attached and needful space than "The Lama" is. Only with the certainty of your belief can he inflict harm upon you. In other words you have to buy into his story of his "Power" which as I look into the situation from here is easily eclipsed by your awakening. The Kundalini is a much more potent force than what this person has, to this point achieved. Kundalini is double edged so if you believe "his claim" than yes it can be turned into a force that would cause you to fear and be harmed. But be clear it is your belief, not his claim of ability, that is causing the problem i.e. Your belief + your kundalini = powerful belief = ouch! So let us be clear that in the scheme of things he has much further to go. If he has some latent skills they are being abused if he

is not working with them for the helpfulness and service of others. So look to how you are viewing this. Are you giving up your security by believing his claims? I must say I am surprised that he is considered a lama with this type of activity and perhaps his superiors should be notified, certainly his claim of making people vomit warrants this at the very least. But I do not know what qualifies a Lama. Perhaps induced barfing is one of the hurdles? Stay far away from him. Do not heal him. Do not think about him. Do not do anything except make a clear and concise separation. Let time do the healing. Try not to buy into peoples claims of power. Buy into your own power, and nurture and bring it into full bloom with in you. Keep doing the good service towards others, have no worries about South American Camels. -

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it might sound stupid in a rational sense, but psychic universe is not

rational :-) ... in psychic terms, every thought or emotion you have

toward a person or object is a link or connection and those with

training or natural ability can use it energetically, to drain or to

cause harm. this is not BS, as it seems you've found out personally.

so chrism is absolutely right, put this fellow entirely out of your

head. I say this with some experience. any K-aware being is a giant

tasty morsel and without caution attracts predators upon that energy

like moths to a flame, or flies to sh-t. control of your own thoughts

and emotions (unfortunately you probably can't control your dreams,

and if so, not always) is the only defense really.

 

sorry to be so glum. I got firsthand experience of some of this

" nonsense " and was fortunately set straight by a practicing magickian

who noticed (through whatever means) that I was leaking like a sieve.

I was too headstrong to heed his words until later however. the

world is much stranger than we think :-) it's just hid from a majority

of people even though we all encounter the same things routinely,

we've taught ourselves to not pay attention.

 

interestingly I knew a psychologist who was married to an accepted

chela of a lamasery in Tibet, eventually left him, and died under

quite strange circumstances years later in a freak car accident.

weird connection, I thought I should say something.

 

sorry to sermonize, listen to chrism and take care

 

regards,

-brian

 

> Stay far away from him. Do not heal him. Do not think about

> him. Do not do anything except make a clear and concise

> separation. Let time do the healing. Try not to buy into

> peoples claims of power. Buy into your own power, and nurture

> and bring it into full bloom with in you. Keep doing the good

> service towards others, have no worries about South American

> Camels. -

>

[Guest guest]

cool posts Brian and for you Mandrea............................

Chrism is correct this is some kind of odd Lama......if he is doing this

kind of nonsense its ''wishcraft'',which is a wrong use of energy. Believe

in your own power of ''K''.

 

A..........................

 

 

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>Re: protection question

>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:35:46 -0700 (PDT)

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>This person is a Lama? Interesting. Well first of course you must know that

>you are not a victim. You (in your realizations) are in a much stronger and

>less attached and needful space than " The Lama " is. Only with the certainty

>of your belief can he inflict harm upon you. In other words you have to buy

>into his story of his " Power " which as I look into the situation from here

>is easily eclipsed by your awakening.

>

> The Kundalini is a much more potent force than what this person has, to

>this point achieved. Kundalini is double edged so if you believe " his

>claim " than yes it can be turned into a force that would cause you to fear

>and be harmed. But be clear it is your belief, not his claim of ability,

>that is causing the problem i.e. Your belief + your kundalini = powerful

>belief = ouch! So let us be clear that in the scheme of things he has much

>further to go. If he has some latent skills they are being abused if he is

>not working with them for the helpfulness and service of others.

>

>So look to how you are viewing this. Are you giving up your security by

>believing his claims? I must say I am surprised that he is considered a

>lama with this type of activity and perhaps his superiors should be

>notified, certainly his claim of making people vomit warrants this at the

>very least. But I do not know what qualifies a Lama. Perhaps induced

>barfing is one of the hurdles?

>

> Stay far away from him. Do not heal him. Do not think about him. Do not

>do anything except make a clear and concise separation. Let time do the

>healing. Try not to buy into peoples claims of power. Buy into your own

>power, and nurture and bring it into full bloom with in you. Keep doing the

>good service towards others, have no worries about South American Camels. -

>

>

>

 

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[Guest guest]

thanks to all of you for your replies

 

I have to say that the Lama does not see inducing

vomiting as his intention, but told me it happened to

people before when he was angry with them. I realized

that my son's vomitting that dissappeared next morning

with no explanation or illness apparent, was on a

night that I found out the lama had been very angry

with me

 

he is currently in crisis of faith and lost all hope

in himself - very dark place - and is reaching out

for me to give him hope - which I see I cannot do - I

let him know that he is left to find his way and heal

his anger or not

 

thanks for the reminder to control my thoughts. I

have noticed that my thoughts manifest quickly and I

didn't link it to K, but that makes so much sense.

 

funny about leaking. I realized how much I have been

leaking for the last year, with money and energy, and

even the heat from the house I am currently renting

(it cost me a few thousand to heat this leaky pad last

winter). I have been trying to stop my leaking and

the house leaking, and I have had so many physical

manifestations of things like that this past year!

it's all very funny. and I suppose not when I realize

how seriously I need to take it now.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> I have to say that the Lama does not see inducing

> vomiting as his intention, but told me it happened to

> people before when he was angry with them.

:-) that is not surprising, and I didn't mean to imply it WAS

intentional (though that is possible for some who cultivate these

skills for such purposes). it is quite simple, if the energy

is there - the person is legitimately psychically " active " , things

will happen that reflect it. and unfortunately emotion is a

powerful 'conduit' for energy to flow across.

 

> he is currently in crisis of faith and lost all hope

> in himself - very dark place - and is reaching out

anyone with these abilities has to come to terms with it sooner or

later. this is the reason for control of the emotions being

prerequisite in practically every working system of esoteric

development that doesn't produce libertines, schizophrenics,

psychopaths and would-be-messiahs.

 

> thanks for the reminder to control my thoughts. I

> have noticed that my thoughts manifest quickly and I

> didn't link it to K, but that makes so much sense.

:-) it's a different 'tuning' of the universe. the effects are small

but meaningful to the experiencer, they form a 'path' of sorts, and a

dialog between meditation and daily existence.

 

> funny about leaking. I realized how much I have been

> leaking for the last year, with money and energy,

:-) it's not funny at all, unfortunately it is all too real to the one

experiencing it. money and energy are great signs but they are only

external so far as the world is concerned, ignore them for all others

but be very vigilant in what you see of your own.

 

these are but my own opinions, so take them at their worth.

 

take care

-brian

[Guest guest]

> this is the reason for control of the emotions being

> prerequisite in practically every working system of

> esoteric development that doesn't produce libertines,

> schizophrenics, psychopaths and would-be-messiahs.

ok, amend that to say " that doesn't produce ONLY ... " etc. or perhaps

" TOO MANY ... " or there may be no such systems that exist, as anyone

with even a passing acquaintance with esotericism east or west, would

probably not argue with that.

:-)

 

-brian

[Guest guest]

yes I do know what you mean

all of these systems can be manipulated by the mind to produce such results from

my view

 

 

, " a_seventh_son "

<a_seventh_son wrote:

>

> > this is the reason for control of the emotions being

> > prerequisite in practically every working system of

> > esoteric development that doesn't produce libertines,

> > schizophrenics, psychopaths and would-be-messiahs.

> ok, amend that to say " that doesn't produce ONLY ... " etc. or perhaps

> " TOO MANY ... " or there may be no such systems that exist, as anyone

> with even a passing acquaintance with esotericism east or west, would

> probably not argue with that.

> :-)

>

> -brian

>

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Mandrea wrote:

 

> it's all very funny. and I suppose not when I

> realize

> how seriously I need to take it now.

 

I say, don't take it too seriously , I think taking it

to be funny is the best way Mandrea, have a good

laugh, hee hee hee.....

 

 

 

 

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I think it is funny too and am in the middle of a stage of thought manifestations that are faster and deeper than I have ever had. And, looked for a mala to do Sanskrit chanting with and found what felt like the perfect one with symbols on it which I found out, after I got it, mean "Where you place your will there you will achieve". And look at the sudden appearance of this topic on this list!

 

In all ways that I have been guided there has always been a great deal of humor and the delight of surprise which I am very grateful for as the beginning of my road to awakening was very, very rocky and scary.

 

In gratefulness,

 

Sherri

 

--The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert Einstein

 

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