Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 My thoughts on this and for which I cannot provide a shred of proof or data is that some schizophrenia is Kundalini related. imho. By that I mean that the person has gone into resistance and deep fear as the activation begins the flow. This is if it isnt caused by drug overdose, brain trauma, tumor, or any other physical factor. Often a fragmentation occurs as the self and selves struggle with some of the psychosis that comes from an awakening without help or safeties. There have been books written by psychiatrists and psychologists. I believe one of them was written by a psychiatrist who experienced K., but I don't have the names. Google the words and see what comes up or maybe Amazon.com on the words schizophrenia and Kundalini would bring some results. There is a relationship between schizophrenia and Kundalini and it is namely that both processes involve the fragmentation and dissolution of the ego and a new, whole and complete self rising up from the confusion to replace it. A self that isn't constrained by convention. The safe and sane approach for helping someone is similar to that of assisting a K activation in motion - provide a supportive environment and allow the process to unfold as it will, so long as the individual does not seek to harm themselves or anyone else. Some people get an emotional reaction to the idea that the Kundalini experience may be a type of insanity, probably because they also had dark moments where they feared it to be true. I did. Really, the infant sciences that are psychiatry and psychology have not been around very long, and cannot begin to comprehend the mind of a kundalini infused person. Psychiatry used to think that masturbation was a sign of insanity! This is about as on target as " play with matches and you'll wet the bed " While there are some forms of psychiatry and psychology that seem to have a clue, most of them are still in the early developmental stages. I have heard some horrid stories of what can happen if a an Kundalini ignorant shrink gets a hold of a Kundalini person. (think heavy medication, stupor, falling down just to go pee, interned in a nursing home for years) And 99% of them do not know and if they do know do not accept even the idea of Kundalini. Now many of the folks in the fields of psychiatry and psychology are good people trying to help and I honor their intentions. But like the medical field they are only allowed to think what they are told is " correct " to think and so they are out of the kundalini loop. Not all but most. - just some thoughts on this - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 My ex mother in law is on meds for years for schizophrenia, and I agree that it is her psychic abilities that got her there. Problem is, she knew one of her children was going to die before it happened, and it sent her into a mental whirl that she never recovered from. She starting calling me on the phone and coming around when I decided to leave her son, and I saw clearly that she knew what was happening, and even saw my spirit confirm it for her without my conscious mind choosing that. Mandrea , " chrism " <> wrote: > > My thoughts on this and for which I cannot provide a shred of proof > or data is that some schizophrenia is Kundalini related. imho. By > that I mean that the person has gone into resistance and deep fear > as the activation begins the flow. This is if it isnt caused by drug > overdose, brain trauma, tumor, or any other physical factor. Often a > fragmentation occurs as the self and selves struggle with some of > the psychosis that comes from an awakening without help or safeties. > > There have been books written by psychiatrists and psychologists. I > believe one of them was written by a psychiatrist who > experienced K., but I don't have the names. Google the words and see > what comes up or maybe Amazon.com on the words schizophrenia and > Kundalini > would bring some results. > > There is a relationship between schizophrenia and Kundalini and it is > namely that both processes involve the fragmentation and dissolution > of the ego and a new, whole and complete self rising up from the > confusion to replace it. A self that isn't constrained by convention. > > The safe and sane approach for helping someone is similar to that > of assisting a K activation in motion - provide a supportive > environment and allow the process to unfold as it will, so long as > the > individual does not seek to harm themselves or anyone else. > > Some people get an emotional reaction to the idea that the Kundalini > experience may be a type of insanity, probably because they also had > dark > moments where they feared it to be true. I did. > > Really, the infant sciences that are psychiatry and psychology have > not been around very > long, and cannot begin to comprehend the mind of a kundalini infused > person. Psychiatry used to think > that masturbation was a sign of insanity! This is about as on target > as " play with matches and you'll wet the bed " > > While there are some forms of psychiatry and psychology that seem to > have a clue, most of them are still in the early developmental > stages. I have heard some horrid stories of what can happen if a > an Kundalini ignorant shrink gets a hold of a Kundalini person. > (think heavy medication, stupor, falling down just to go pee, > interned in a nursing home for years) And 99% of them do not know > and if they do know do not accept even the idea of Kundalini. > > Now many of the folks in the fields of psychiatry and psychology are > good people trying to help and I honor their intentions. But like > the medical field they are only allowed to think what they are told > is " correct " to think and so they are out of the kundalini loop. Not > all but most. - just some thoughts on this - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hello Guys, This link might be of some assistants...check it out and see what you can find. Love, Katherine , " chrism " <> wrote: > > My thoughts on this and for which I cannot provide a shred of proof > or data is that some schizophrenia is Kundalini related. imho. By > that I mean that the person has gone into resistance and deep fear > as the activation begins the flow. This is if it isnt caused by drug > overdose, brain trauma, tumor, or any other physical factor. Often a > fragmentation occurs as the self and selves struggle with some of > the psychosis that comes from an awakening without help or safeties. > > There have been books written by psychiatrists and psychologists. I > believe one of them was written by a psychiatrist who > experienced K., but I don't have the names. Google the words and see > what comes up or maybe Amazon.com on the words schizophrenia and > Kundalini > would bring some results. > > There is a relationship between schizophrenia and Kundalini and it is > namely that both processes involve the fragmentation and dissolution > of the ego and a new, whole and complete self rising up from the > confusion to replace it. A self that isn't constrained by convention. > > The safe and sane approach for helping someone is similar to that > of assisting a K activation in motion - provide a supportive > environment and allow the process to unfold as it will, so long as > the > individual does not seek to harm themselves or anyone else. > > Some people get an emotional reaction to the idea that the Kundalini > experience may be a type of insanity, probably because they also had > dark > moments where they feared it to be true. I did. > > Really, the infant sciences that are psychiatry and psychology have > not been around very > long, and cannot begin to comprehend the mind of a kundalini infused > person. Psychiatry used to think > that masturbation was a sign of insanity! This is about as on target > as " play with matches and you'll wet the bed " > > While there are some forms of psychiatry and psychology that seem to > have a clue, most of them are still in the early developmental > stages. I have heard some horrid stories of what can happen if a > an Kundalini ignorant shrink gets a hold of a Kundalini person. > (think heavy medication, stupor, falling down just to go pee, > interned in a nursing home for years) And 99% of them do not know > and if they do know do not accept even the idea of Kundalini. > > Now many of the folks in the fields of psychiatry and psychology are > good people trying to help and I honor their intentions. But like > the medical field they are only allowed to think what they are told > is " correct " to think and so they are out of the kundalini loop. Not > all but most. - just some thoughts on this - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 I don't know that all schizophrenic individuals are K awake. It would be nice if this were the case (or perhaps not), but how do we know? What I know is that I had a schizophrenic student years ago. He went through a major crisis during the semester, became incapable of doing anything, and had to seek help. Once he found the help he needed, he could again live like any other student: he came to class, participated in our discussions, and wrote exams and papers just like anybody else. Once he felt better, he came to see me and told me that he was glad he had found a support structure, because when he had stopped taking his medicines for a couple of years he had ended up being homeless and had no memories whatsoever of what had happened to him. Sure, I could have told him that it's always better to be drug-free, regardless of the pain this " authenticity " would have caused him. However, I still think this would not have been a particularly compassionate thing to say. Like almost anybody here, I am utterly suspicious of the medical excesses of our society; however, I also believe that there are a lot of conditions, both physical and mental, that benefit from treatment. Not everything is either white or black--most of the time there is a lot of grey in between. Sel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 , " chrism " <> wrote: > > My thoughts on this and for which I cannot provide a shred of proof > or data is that some schizophrenia is Kundalini related. imho. By > that I mean that the person has gone into resistance and deep fear > as the activation begins the flow. This is if it isnt caused by drug > overdose, brain trauma, tumor, or any other physical factor. Often a > fragmentation occurs as the self and selves struggle with some of > the psychosis that comes from an awakening without help or safeties. Jung wrote (and I agree) that he felt schizophrenia was in large part a 'natural' and gradual process that was part of the larger process of individuation, but unfortunately in some individuals reached a point where it no longer made any kind of 'normalcy' possible. this is NOT to equate the two in any way (schizophrenia = path to enlightenment? quite foolhardy), but what I took out of this and about a month worth of layman-research into schizoid conditions is that the operative mechanisms ARE similar. the difference seems to be that the schizoid increasingly isolates itself from reality due to the powerful experiences of dissociation, hallucinations etc while the 'individuation' or development brings greater integration of fragments and even an ability to synthesize some of the schizoid perceptions within a non-pathological context. but I'm no psychologist. > There is a relationship between schizophrenia and Kundalini and > it is namely that both processes involve the fragmentation and > dissolution of the ego and a new, whole and complete self rising > up from the confusion to replace it. A self that isn't > constrained by convention. agreed, this is basically what Jung was saying, and what I was trying to explain as well. the real danger is that the 'proto-self' gets stuck in the process and re-calcifies into an even more impenetrable shell, and is now no longer bound by convention. > Some people get an emotional reaction to the idea that the > Kundalini experience may be a type of insanity, probably > because they also had dark moments where they feared it to be > true. I did. likewise. it spurred a lot of reading as well. unfortunately the hypochondriac is likely to think they have every illness they come across in a pathology text. > Really, the infant sciences that are psychiatry and psychology > have not been around very long, and cannot begin to comprehend > the mind of a kundalini infused person. :-) sadly they haven't advanced much at all, no one wants to give up the power of the notion that the herd-mind and social consensus is a valid and legitimate basis of norms, mores, and values. if nothing else, given the track record of social consensus, I think it's safe to consider this source as incompetent at best and dangerous at worst. but the collective 'unconscious' is very strong. > Psychiatry used to think that masturbation was a sign of insanity! it probably got them a lot of business, since practically everyone has, did, or does. not every field can invent " diseases " and then sell treatments for them either. at least medicine is bound by a physical phenomenon they have to find in order to commence treatment it follows that psychology would require people and/or instrumentation able to 'see' psychic phenomena. but that would put the blind practicioners out of business quickly, however talented or intelligent they were. -brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 I too, Sel, am utterly suspicious of most Western medical practices (particularly in women's health issues), but I have a schizophrenic son who has been very ill for over two years now. He needs his meds. I do not think his illness is a K-awakening, but a very cruel and insidious brain disorder that has robbed him of his vital years of his life. He lives with me now as he would be homeless otherwise. If we were going to look at schizophrenia as a potential K-awakening, we would need to look at a wide spectrum of disorders such as Alzheimer's and autism and other disorders. I think of K-awakening as something that is a holistic and healthy process for people with awareness, not people with serious illness or disability. Perhaps I am wrong, and I hope I haven't offended anyone. It's just that I've lived with the reality of this illness now for over two years, and admittedly, it's had a HUGE effect on my own energy, but I've studied it extensively and believe it is a real illness that is tragic for those who suffer from it. Judy On Behalf Of selena230Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: Re: schizophrenia and Kundalini I don't know that all schizophrenic individuals are K awake. It wouldbe nice if this were the case (or perhaps not), but how do we know? What I know is that I had a schizophrenic student years ago. He wentthrough a major crisis during the semester, became incapable of doinganything, and had to seek help. Once he found the help he needed, hecould again live like any other student: he came to class,participated in our discussions, and wrote exams and papers just likeanybody else. Once he felt better, he came to see me and told me thathe was glad he had found a support structure, because when he hadstopped taking his medicines for a couple of years he had ended upbeing homeless and had no memories whatsoever of what had happened tohim. Sure, I could have told him that it's always better to bedrug-free, regardless of the pain this "authenticity" would havecaused him. However, I still think this would not have been aparticularly compassionate thing to say.Like almost anybody here, I am utterly suspicious of the medicalexcesses of our society; however, I also believe that there are a lotof conditions, both physical and mental, that benefit from treatment.Not everything is either white or black--most of the time there is alot of grey in between.Sel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hi Judy, Thanks for sharing your story--and your pain--with us. You are doing the right thing by providing your son with all the support he needs to deal with his illness. Much love, Sel , " DoulaCare -- Judy Batson " <doulacare wrote: > > I too, Sel, am utterly suspicious of most Western medical practices > (particularly in women's health issues), but I have a schizophrenic son who > has been very ill for over two years now. He needs his meds. I do not > think his illness is a K-awakening, but a very cruel and insidious brain > disorder that has robbed him of his vital years of his life. He lives with > me now as he would be homeless otherwise. If we were going to look at > schizophrenia as a potential K-awakening, we would need to look at a wide > spectrum of disorders such as Alzheimer's and autism and other disorders. I > think of K-awakening as something that is a holistic and healthy process for > people with awareness, not people with serious illness or disability. > Perhaps I am wrong, and I hope I haven't offended anyone. It's just that > I've lived with the reality of this illness now for over two years, and > admittedly, it's had a HUGE effect on my own energy, but I've studied it > extensively and believe it is a real illness that is tragic for those who > suffer from it. > > Judy > > > > > On Behalf Of > selena230 > Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:06 AM > > Re: schizophrenia and Kundalini > > > > I don't know that all schizophrenic individuals are K awake. It would > be nice if this were the case (or perhaps not), but how do we know? > What I know is that I had a schizophrenic student years ago. He went > through a major crisis during the semester, became incapable of doing > anything, and had to seek help. Once he found the help he needed, he > could again live like any other student: he came to class, > participated in our discussions, and wrote exams and papers just like > anybody else. Once he felt better, he came to see me and told me that > he was glad he had found a support structure, because when he had > stopped taking his medicines for a couple of years he had ended up > being homeless and had no memories whatsoever of what had happened to > him. Sure, I could have told him that it's always better to be > drug-free, regardless of the pain this " authenticity " would have > caused him. However, I still think this would not have been a > particularly compassionate thing to say. > > Like almost anybody here, I am utterly suspicious of the medical > excesses of our society; however, I also believe that there are a lot > of conditions, both physical and mental, that benefit from treatment. > Not everything is either white or black--most of the time there is a > lot of grey in between. > > Sel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 There are some unrecognized reasons for schizophrenia that I am feeling compelled to share. First let us be clear that everyone is different in their makeup, physical, psychological, emotional, spiritual, and all have come into the physical for different reasons. Some of these " reasons " are compatable and they interlink. Sometimes through spiritual design or otherwise a soul is supposed to have this type of difficulty in order to burn off past issues. These Karmic reasons also offer help and release for others who have the job of caring or healing or nurturing another through an illness for their own karmic balancing so there is the interlinking. Sometimes through abuse at an early age a fracturing of the early personality occurs, child abuse, sexual and emotional can have this effect. Inside this fracture dual or multiple personalities will be created. In this form the personalities and the matrix they use for stability can fall apart causing the degenerative condition to manifest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Would it not also be Clairaudience opening too early ..............so that the person is hearing voices from the Astral plane and cannot shut this out. A............................. > " chrism " <> > > > schizophrenia and Kundalini >Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:31:38 -0000 > > My thoughts on this and for which I cannot provide a shred of proof >or data is that some schizophrenia is Kundalini related. imho. By >that I mean that the person has gone into resistance and deep fear >as the activation begins the flow. This is if it isnt caused by drug >overdose, brain trauma, tumor, or any other physical factor. Often a >fragmentation occurs as the self and selves struggle with some of >the psychosis that comes from an awakening without help or safeties. > >There have been books written by psychiatrists and psychologists. I >believe one of them was written by a psychiatrist who >experienced K., but I don't have the names. Google the words and see >what comes up or maybe Amazon.com on the words schizophrenia and >Kundalini >would bring some results. > >There is a relationship between schizophrenia and Kundalini and it is >namely that both processes involve the fragmentation and dissolution >of the ego and a new, whole and complete self rising up from the >confusion to replace it. A self that isn't constrained by convention. > > The safe and sane approach for helping someone is similar to that >of assisting a K activation in motion - provide a supportive >environment and allow the process to unfold as it will, so long as >the >individual does not seek to harm themselves or anyone else. > > Some people get an emotional reaction to the idea that the Kundalini >experience may be a type of insanity, probably because they also had >dark >moments where they feared it to be true. I did. > > Really, the infant sciences that are psychiatry and psychology have >not been around very >long, and cannot begin to comprehend the mind of a kundalini infused >person. Psychiatry used to think >that masturbation was a sign of insanity! This is about as on target >as " play with matches and you'll wet the bed " > >While there are some forms of psychiatry and psychology that seem to >have a clue, most of them are still in the early developmental >stages. I have heard some horrid stories of what can happen if a > an Kundalini ignorant shrink gets a hold of a Kundalini person. >(think heavy medication, stupor, falling down just to go pee, >interned in a nursing home for years) And 99% of them do not know >and if they do know do not accept even the idea of Kundalini. > >Now many of the folks in the fields of psychiatry and psychology are >good people trying to help and I honor their intentions. But like >the medical field they are only allowed to think what they are told >is " correct " to think and so they are out of the kundalini loop. Not >all but most. - just some thoughts on this - > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ Experience Live Search from your PC or mobile device today. http://www.live.com/?mkt=en-ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Surely everyone has a mind, body, spirit and energy. What condition we are in comes as a configuration of these and others perhaps. If its not K, maybe its a disorder in the flow of a lower grade of energy, caused by tensions and locked in experiences? Even if these sick people are not having a K rising, we should at least afford them the compassion of seeing their condition through a psychospiritual as well as a psychophysical lens. Buddha bless, Love James. , " DoulaCare -- Judy Batson " <doulacare wrote: > > I too, Sel, am utterly suspicious of most Western medical practices > (particularly in women's health issues), but I have a schizophrenic son who > has been very ill for over two years now. He needs his meds. I do not > think his illness is a K-awakening, but a very cruel and insidious brain > disorder that has robbed him of his vital years of his life. He lives with > me now as he would be homeless otherwise. If we were going to look at > schizophrenia as a potential K-awakening, we would need to look at a wide > spectrum of disorders such as Alzheimer's and autism and other disorders. I > think of K-awakening as something that is a holistic and healthy process for > people with awareness, not people with serious illness or disability. > Perhaps I am wrong, and I hope I haven't offended anyone. It's just that > I've lived with the reality of this illness now for over two years, and > admittedly, it's had a HUGE effect on my own energy, but I've studied it > extensively and believe it is a real illness that is tragic for those who > suffer from it. > > Judy > > > > > On Behalf Of > selena230 > Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:06 AM > > Re: schizophrenia and Kundalini > > > > I don't know that all schizophrenic individuals are K awake. It would > be nice if this were the case (or perhaps not), but how do we know? > What I know is that I had a schizophrenic student years ago. He went > through a major crisis during the semester, became incapable of doing > anything, and had to seek help. Once he found the help he needed, he > could again live like any other student: he came to class, > participated in our discussions, and wrote exams and papers just like > anybody else. Once he felt better, he came to see me and told me that > he was glad he had found a support structure, because when he had > stopped taking his medicines for a couple of years he had ended up > being homeless and had no memories whatsoever of what had happened to > him. Sure, I could have told him that it's always better to be > drug-free, regardless of the pain this " authenticity " would have > caused him. However, I still think this would not have been a > particularly compassionate thing to say. > > Like almost anybody here, I am utterly suspicious of the medical > excesses of our society; however, I also believe that there are a lot > of conditions, both physical and mental, that benefit from treatment. > Not everything is either white or black--most of the time there is a > lot of grey in between. > > Sel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hello, As it has been stated many times, some are misdiagnosis's are true illness that are not related to psychospiritual origin, yet there again some are. Based on information I have read of others experiences it would be a hard thing to tell which road that person is traveling. Many people who have told their stories of the K Awakening really and truly thought they were going crazy. El Collie thought she was at first, and she even said that later on when she knew what was happening, had she not she would have thought she was very mentally sick. I have seen articles of what they call the Kundalini Syndrome. This thing they have labeled the K Syndrome would have the same symptoms as those who are schizophrenic or whatever. I believe as had been said in many other postings that it is a hard call to make when put in that situation, and with most doctors not even having a clue about the Kundalini much less what a person can go through can't even begin to understand and make the right diagnosis. Love and Peace, Katherine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hello Everyone, Just my thoughts on the subject. As it has been stated many times, some are misdiagnosis's are true illness that are not related to psychospiritual origin, yet there again some are. Based on information I have read of others experiences it would be a hard thing to tell which road that person is traveling. Many people who have told their stories of the K Awakening really and truly thought they were going crazy. El Collie thought she was at first, and she even said that later on when she knew what was happening, had she not she would have thought she was very mentally sick. I have seen articles of what they call the Kundalini Syndrome. This thing they have labeled the K Syndrome would have the same symptoms as those who are schizophrenic or whatever. I believe as had been said in many other postings that it is a hard call to make when put in that situation, and with most doctors not even having a clue about the Kundalini much less what a person can go through can't even begin to understand and make the right diagnosis. , " James " <milliondegrees wrote: > > Surely everyone has a mind, body, spirit and energy. What condition > we are in comes as a configuration of these and others perhaps. If > its not K, maybe its a disorder in the flow of a lower grade of > energy, caused by tensions and locked in experiences? Even if these > sick people are not having a K rising, we should at least afford > them the compassion of seeing their condition through a > psychospiritual as well as a psychophysical lens. > Buddha bless, > Love James. > > , " DoulaCare -- > Judy Batson " <doulacare@> wrote: > > > > I too, Sel, am utterly suspicious of most Western medical practices > > (particularly in women's health issues), but I have a > schizophrenic son who > > has been very ill for over two years now. He needs his meds. I > do not > > think his illness is a K-awakening, but a very cruel and insidious > brain > > disorder that has robbed him of his vital years of his life. He > lives with > > me now as he would be homeless otherwise. If we were going to > look at > > schizophrenia as a potential K-awakening, we would need to look at > a wide > > spectrum of disorders such as Alzheimer's and autism and other > disorders. I > > think of K-awakening as something that is a holistic and healthy > process for > > people with awareness, not people with serious illness or > disability. > > Perhaps I am wrong, and I hope I haven't offended anyone. It's > just that > > I've lived with the reality of this illness now for over two > years, and > > admittedly, it's had a HUGE effect on my own energy, but I've > studied it > > extensively and believe it is a real illness that is tragic for > those who > > suffer from it. > > > > Judy > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > selena230 > > Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:06 AM > > > > Re: schizophrenia and > Kundalini > > > > > > > > I don't know that all schizophrenic individuals are K awake. It > would > > be nice if this were the case (or perhaps not), but how do we > know? > > What I know is that I had a schizophrenic student years ago. He > went > > through a major crisis during the semester, became incapable of > doing > > anything, and had to seek help. Once he found the help he needed, > he > > could again live like any other student: he came to class, > > participated in our discussions, and wrote exams and papers just > like > > anybody else. Once he felt better, he came to see me and told me > that > > he was glad he had found a support structure, because when he had > > stopped taking his medicines for a couple of years he had ended up > > being homeless and had no memories whatsoever of what had happened > to > > him. Sure, I could have told him that it's always better to be > > drug-free, regardless of the pain this " authenticity " would have > > caused him. However, I still think this would not have been a > > particularly compassionate thing to say. > > > > Like almost anybody here, I am utterly suspicious of the medical > > excesses of our society; however, I also believe that there are a > lot > > of conditions, both physical and mental, that benefit from > treatment. > > Not everything is either white or black--most of the time there is > a > > lot of grey in between. > > > > Sel > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Dear Chrism It has been a while since I have posted. Though I have done quite a bit of thought on this subject over the years I actually feel that schizophrenia is mostly to do with drugs and poisons introduced in to the system where one have has not had the ability to heal; it is a build up of toxins that can do al lot of damage to the pathways that send signals to and from the brain. and in the case of the nadis the mind. if It is due to the destruction of the auric pathways because of an initial awakening, Where as the initial energy burst was too great before correct preparation was done. In the precinct of in the realm of k practitioners these channels can be readily repaired witch is often done I have seen and I have done it. the problem persists on the introduction of drugs where as the damage done has been magnified and the activated person looses contact with the base platform of the earth element. They are off the planet so to say sometimes drowning in water sometimes swept in the wind or burning high on the stake. it is my belief that only the re connection to earth that will heal them and drugs will not do that. I have met people who have been experimented upon with drugs hallucinogenic shock therapy there is not much help for them, as they have in the worst cases misused maltreated there fore very defensive and can be quite aggressive. when the get like this they use the term manic depressive. people who suffer from ADHD have a lack of serotonin many years ago a friend of mine told me when he is with me he feels emotionally settled I knew this before he told me, though he telling me meant a lot to me I experimented further and was able to allow a woman who suffered ADHD to completely be un reliant on medication. It is a shame her life style would not allow further healing and she had to return to the medication. Sometimes it is just karmic which does not allow for complete interference. I am now experimenting sending as you and many on this group would already know these energies across distances this is indeed fantastic in its revelations so far. though in fact at this point is more subjective than actually material, though these experiments are proving themselves true. not only that it is the effects that in using energy transference of the sensations that I have because of the electromagnetic energies going through me. It is true in a way they cannot understand the mind of a k infused person. In the reality on Freudian psychology, as that understanding only explains up to the emotional centre but does not explain the effects on the emotions of the energies coming in from above and in that the philosophy being based on suppression cut the legs of their patients and in that physiology should focus on the effects of the pineal and pituitary bodies and it effects on the endocrine system regarding light, Sonics and other stimulus of thought forms. I believe some psychologists are beginning to experiment with these, but are still in most cases is still in infancy. Also added to the delay of technology development in these fields is due to the protracted losses of the income taken from the proceeds of the drug companies, who would rather sell there drugs that contain damaging side effects due to the methods they use to create higher potentialities of there remedies that have in the first place been taken from natural substances. John M -- Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/473 - Release Date: 12/10/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Yes clairvoyance or telepathy in the person who has these gifts come upon them without understanding. - blessings - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Dear John, What you said really rings true, and makes a lot of sense. I remember vividly at the time of my awakening, after being put in hospital, that the drugs were doing the opposite of what I wanted, they were making me higher and higher when I was yearning to come back to earth. It was a desperate situation. I so badly wanted not to take the drugs, but they forced me to. How to get back in touch with the Earth element? Am I right in thinking that would be the bones in our bodies? In my qigong I try to contact earth force and heaven force, which is up and down force, and make the balance of the body travel along the bones as much as possible. Thanks for posting, bless all, James. , " John Mathieson " <jaganath wrote: > > Dear Chrism > > It has been a while since I have posted. Though I have done quite a bit > of thought on this subject over the years > > > > I actually feel that schizophrenia is mostly to do with drugs and > poisons introduced in to the system where one have has not had the > ability to heal; it is a build up of toxins that can do al lot of damage > to the pathways that send signals to and from the brain. and in the case > of the nadis the mind. > > > > if It is due to the destruction of the auric pathways because of an > initial awakening, Where as the initial energy burst was too great > before correct preparation was done. In the precinct of in the realm of > k practitioners these channels can be readily repaired witch is often > done I have seen and I have done it. > > > > the problem persists on the introduction of drugs where as the damage > done has been magnified and the activated person looses contact with the > base platform of the earth element. They are off the planet so to say > sometimes drowning in water sometimes swept in the wind or burning high > on the stake. > > it is my belief that only the re connection to earth that will heal them > and drugs will not do that. > > > > I have met people who have been experimented upon with drugs > hallucinogenic shock therapy there is not much help for them, as they > have in the worst cases misused maltreated there fore very defensive and > can be quite aggressive. > > when the get like this they use the term manic depressive. > > people who suffer from ADHD have a lack of serotonin > > many years ago a friend of mine told me when he is with me he feels > emotionally settled > > I knew this before he told me, though he telling me meant a lot to me > > I experimented further and was able to allow a woman who suffered ADHD > to completely be un reliant on medication. It is a shame her life style > would not allow further healing and she had to return to the medication. > Sometimes it is just karmic which does not allow for complete > interference. > > I am now experimenting sending as you and many on this group would > already know these energies across distances > > this is indeed fantastic in its revelations so far. though in fact at > this point is more subjective than actually material, though these > experiments are proving themselves true. not only that it is the effects > that in using energy transference of the sensations that I have because > of the electromagnetic energies going through me. > > > > It is true in a way they cannot understand the mind of a k infused > person. In the reality on Freudian psychology, as that understanding > only explains up to the emotional centre but does not explain the > effects on the emotions of the energies coming in from above and in that > the philosophy being based on suppression cut the legs of their patients > and in that physiology should focus on the effects of the pineal and > pituitary bodies and it effects on the endocrine system regarding light, > Sonics and other stimulus of thought forms. I believe some psychologists > are beginning to experiment with these, but are still in most cases is > still in infancy. Also added to the delay of technology development in > these fields is due to the protracted losses of the income taken from > the proceeds of the drug companies, who would rather sell there drugs > that contain damaging side effects due to the methods they use to create > higher potentialities of there remedies that have in the first place > been taken from natural substances. > > > > John M > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/473 - Release Date: > 12/10/2006 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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