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Hello Elektra,

Please see below.

 

Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote:

Hi and all,

 

I just wanted to ask one more question about New Age

beliefs (as I've always been drawn to new age

mythology),

Are we coming to the end of a time cycle ? 2012 ?

 

 

@@ Yes the end of the Mayan Calenders cycle. This calender is more precise

than the Julian Calender which is what Western society follows. They have given

2012 as the date that " Time ends " . Nothing is said about destruction or the

world breaking apart but that " Time " ends. Now, once again, I do not have

complete confidence in the translators of ancient Mayan but this is the general

picture. This takes me into temporal dynamics. What is time? Is it a thing? Or

a place? Can it be ended? Apparently the Mayan thought so. So what does this

mean for us?

 

Does time change when those who think about it a certain way change their

thoughts about it? Doesn't that change time? If you have been seeing it as a

lake and now see it as a river has that not added a motion to time and now it is

a flow as well and has direction or vice versa? The thing about this Elektra is

that when I send the scatter fields it is outside of time as well as the

Shaktipats. They are not " time " determined. I choose them to occur at three a.m.

because this is the best time for a person to receive them and they mix with the

earth energies very nicely at that hour.

 

As you continue your very fine advancement into the Kundalini your own sense

of temporal dynamics will change.

 

When 2012 comes around there is going to be a great deal of concern and the

fear will whipped up to a strong degree. Paranoia and panic will be strong in

those who have much to lose. I do not feel it is the end of us though. I feel it

will be a great transition. From one way of thinking and feeling to another

perhaps finer and more inclusive method.

 

It is the years up to 2012 that have the most damage occurring in my

opinion. Civil war, production hegemony, Climate changes, wars abroad, the

diminution of personal freedoms and choice. These are the seeds that may see

fruition in the times leading up to 2012 - my take on it -

 

 

 

 

 

What do you think about that Chrism?

 

Again, all my life I've had the " feeling " that these

were humanities last days.

I had repetative dreams that the world was ending as a

child and in 1999 I had a vision where I was told the

end of the world was coming, leading to rebirth.

 

But then I was also lead to believe that me and my

husband were Adam and Eve and we were here to do a

sexual kundalini based magick that would somehow

return the earth to it's Edenic state by opening a

gateway. (I know it sounds crazy now but at the time

it was really intense).

 

Do these kinds of visions come from the divine or the

Ego?

Perhaps the astral?

Are they tests of Ego?

 

I always took them literally when perhaps they meant

something else?

But when strange things start going on that seem to

confirm the bizarre messages you recieve, how are you

to know fact from fiction?

 

This is why now-a-days I don't even put attachment on

to my " divine messages " , I just enjoy them and try to

live in the moment of now.

 

I would like to hear what others think about these

things,

Much love and gratitude

Elektra x x x

 

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thats how I feel it also, a transformation , like the caterpillar in the jar, a

struggle to freedom....

x x x

 

chrism <> wrote:

Hello Elektra,

Please see below.

 

Elektra Fire wrote:

Hi and all,

 

I just wanted to ask one more question about New Age

beliefs (as I've always been drawn to new age

mythology),

Are we coming to the end of a time cycle ? 2012 ?

 

 

@@ Yes the end of the Mayan Calenders cycle. This calender is more precise than

the Julian Calender which is what Western society follows. They have given 2012

as the date that " Time ends " . Nothing is said about destruction or the world

breaking apart but that " Time " ends. Now, once again, I do not have complete

confidence in the translators of ancient Mayan but this is the general picture.

This takes me into temporal dynamics. What is time? Is it a thing? Or a place?

Can it be ended? Apparently the Mayan thought so. So what does this mean for us?

 

Does time change when those who think about it a certain way change their

thoughts about it? Doesn't that change time? If you have been seeing it as a

lake and now see it as a river has that not added a motion to time and now it is

a flow as well and has direction or vice versa? The thing about this Elektra is

that when I send the scatter fields it is outside of time as well as the

Shaktipats. They are not " time " determined. I choose them to occur at three a.m.

because this is the best time for a person to receive them and they mix with the

earth energies very nicely at that hour.

 

As you continue your very fine advancement into the Kundalini your own sense of

temporal dynamics will change.

 

When 2012 comes around there is going to be a great deal of concern and the fear

will whipped up to a strong degree. Paranoia and panic will be strong in those

who have much to lose. I do not feel it is the end of us though. I feel it will

be a great transition. From one way of thinking and feeling to another perhaps

finer and more inclusive method.

 

It is the years up to 2012 that have the most damage occurring in my opinion.

Civil war, production hegemony, Climate changes, wars abroad, the diminution of

personal freedoms and choice. These are the seeds that may see fruition in the

times leading up to 2012 - my take on it -

 

 

 

 

 

What do you think about that Chrism?

 

Again, all my life I've had the " feeling " that these

were humanities last days.

I had repetative dreams that the world was ending as a

child and in 1999 I had a vision where I was told the

end of the world was coming, leading to rebirth.

 

But then I was also lead to believe that me and my

husband were Adam and Eve and we were here to do a

sexual kundalini based magick that would somehow

return the earth to it's Edenic state by opening a

gateway. (I know it sounds crazy now but at the time

it was really intense).

 

Do these kinds of visions come from the divine or the

Ego?

Perhaps the astral?

Are they tests of Ego?

 

I always took them literally when perhaps they meant

something else?

But when strange things start going on that seem to

confirm the bizarre messages you recieve, how are you

to know fact from fiction?

 

This is why now-a-days I don't even put attachment on

to my " divine messages " , I just enjoy them and try to

live in the moment of now.

 

I would like to hear what others think about these

things,

Much love and gratitude

Elektra x x x

 

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thats how I feel it also, a transformation , like the caterpillar in the jar, a

struggle to freedom....

x x x

 

chrism <> wrote:

Hello Elektra,

Please see below.

 

Elektra Fire wrote:

Hi and all,

 

I just wanted to ask one more question about New Age

beliefs (as I've always been drawn to new age

mythology),

Are we coming to the end of a time cycle ? 2012 ?

 

 

@@ Yes the end of the Mayan Calenders cycle. This calender is more precise than

the Julian Calender which is what Western society follows. They have given 2012

as the date that " Time ends " . Nothing is said about destruction or the world

breaking apart but that " Time " ends. Now, once again, I do not have complete

confidence in the translators of ancient Mayan but this is the general picture.

This takes me into temporal dynamics. What is time? Is it a thing? Or a place?

Can it be ended? Apparently the Mayan thought so. So what does this mean for us?

 

Does time change when those who think about it a certain way change their

thoughts about it? Doesn't that change time? If you have been seeing it as a

lake and now see it as a river has that not added a motion to time and now it is

a flow as well and has direction or vice versa? The thing about this Elektra is

that when I send the scatter fields it is outside of time as well as the

Shaktipats. They are not " time " determined. I choose them to occur at three a.m.

because this is the best time for a person to receive them and they mix with the

earth energies very nicely at that hour.

 

As you continue your very fine advancement into the Kundalini your own sense of

temporal dynamics will change.

 

When 2012 comes around there is going to be a great deal of concern and the fear

will whipped up to a strong degree. Paranoia and panic will be strong in those

who have much to lose. I do not feel it is the end of us though. I feel it will

be a great transition. From one way of thinking and feeling to another perhaps

finer and more inclusive method.

 

It is the years up to 2012 that have the most damage occurring in my opinion.

Civil war, production hegemony, Climate changes, wars abroad, the diminution of

personal freedoms and choice. These are the seeds that may see fruition in the

times leading up to 2012 - my take on it -

 

 

 

 

 

What do you think about that Chrism?

 

Again, all my life I've had the " feeling " that these

were humanities last days.

I had repetative dreams that the world was ending as a

child and in 1999 I had a vision where I was told the

end of the world was coming, leading to rebirth.

 

But then I was also lead to believe that me and my

husband were Adam and Eve and we were here to do a

sexual kundalini based magick that would somehow

return the earth to it's Edenic state by opening a

gateway. (I know it sounds crazy now but at the time

it was really intense).

 

Do these kinds of visions come from the divine or the

Ego?

Perhaps the astral?

Are they tests of Ego?

 

I always took them literally when perhaps they meant

something else?

But when strange things start going on that seem to

confirm the bizarre messages you recieve, how are you

to know fact from fiction?

 

This is why now-a-days I don't even put attachment on

to my " divine messages " , I just enjoy them and try to

live in the moment of now.

 

I would like to hear what others think about these

things,

Much love and gratitude

Elektra x x x

 

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Elektra & Chrism,

 

I don't know if anything will happen in 2012 but I have long had an

indefinable feeling that 'something spiritual' is building. I don't

know what or when, it's just something I sense in the background.

 

I had a dream the other night in which I was driving with my wife

and we had some sort of minor accident. There was a kind of enquiry

along the lines of a air crash investigation, the verdict of which

was 'Forget about 2013'. It meant nothing in the dream but when I

woke up I wondered if it was a reference to 2012. I'm not making

anything of it - just noting it in passing.

 

Best wishes all.

Mike

 

 

 

, Elektra Fire

<elektra.fire wrote:

>

> Thats how I feel it also, a transformation , like the caterpillar

in the jar, a struggle to freedom....

> x x x

>

> chrism <> wrote:

> Hello Elektra,

> Please see below.

>

> Elektra Fire wrote:

> Hi and all,

>

> I just wanted to ask one more question about New Age

> beliefs (as I've always been drawn to new age

> mythology),

> Are we coming to the end of a time cycle ? 2012 ?

>

>

> @@ Yes the end of the Mayan Calenders cycle. This calender is more

precise than the Julian Calender which is what Western society

follows. They have given 2012 as the date that " Time ends " . Nothing

is said about destruction or the world breaking apart but

that " Time " ends. Now, once again, I do not have complete confidence

in the translators of ancient Mayan but this is the general picture.

This takes me into temporal dynamics. What is time? Is it a thing?

Or a place? Can it be ended? Apparently the Mayan thought so. So

what does this mean for us?

>

> Does time change when those who think about it a certain way

change their thoughts about it? Doesn't that change time? If you

have been seeing it as a lake and now see it as a river has that not

added a motion to time and now it is a flow as well and has

direction or vice versa? The thing about this Elektra is that when I

send the scatter fields it is outside of time as well as the

Shaktipats. They are not " time " determined. I choose them to occur

at three a.m. because this is the best time for a person to receive

them and they mix with the earth energies very nicely at that hour.

>

> As you continue your very fine advancement into the Kundalini your

own sense of temporal dynamics will change.

>

> When 2012 comes around there is going to be a great deal of

concern and the fear will whipped up to a strong degree. Paranoia

and panic will be strong in those who have much to lose. I do not

feel it is the end of us though. I feel it will be a great

transition. From one way of thinking and feeling to another perhaps

finer and more inclusive method.

>

> It is the years up to 2012 that have the most damage occurring in

my opinion. Civil war, production hegemony, Climate changes, wars

abroad, the diminution of personal freedoms and choice. These are

the seeds that may see fruition in the times leading up to 2012 - my

take on it -

>

>

>

>

>

> What do you think about that Chrism?

>

> Again, all my life I've had the " feeling " that these

> were humanities last days.

> I had repetative dreams that the world was ending as a

> child and in 1999 I had a vision where I was told the

> end of the world was coming, leading to rebirth.

>

> But then I was also lead to believe that me and my

> husband were Adam and Eve and we were here to do a

> sexual kundalini based magick that would somehow

> return the earth to it's Edenic state by opening a

> gateway. (I know it sounds crazy now but at the time

> it was really intense).

>

> Do these kinds of visions come from the divine or the

> Ego?

> Perhaps the astral?

> Are they tests of Ego?

>

> I always took them literally when perhaps they meant

> something else?

> But when strange things start going on that seem to

> confirm the bizarre messages you recieve, how are you

> to know fact from fiction?

>

> This is why now-a-days I don't even put attachment on

> to my " divine messages " , I just enjoy them and try to

> live in the moment of now.

>

> I would like to hear what others think about these

> things,

> Much love and gratitude

> Elektra x x x

>

> Send instant messages to your online friends

http://uk.messenger.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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