Guest guest Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 It is possible for a person who is born with a gross nature to become fine, other things apart, even those who have done the dhikr Zikar in the right way - in six weeks' time the vibrations of their body change; in six weeks time those who do it properly become finer. Take the grossest person, make him do the dhikr, in six weeks' time his vibrations will change. Hazrat Inayat Khan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Chrism, I googled this and found a lot of article. One very long, haven't finished it yet. The science of sound . . . . changing one's vibrations. Would this be a way to become more sensitive, and possibly hasten the awakening? I have a feeling I am not all that sensitive, apart from seeing a few very bright (small, oblong) light float across my vision, and some blue spots when doing yoga, and some vibrations, I haven't had much phenomena happen to me. Certainly not anything like what I read on the list. Makes me wonder if I'm doing this right. Many thanks, Ray , " chrism " <> wrote: > > > It is possible for a person who is born with a gross > nature to become fine, other things apart, even those > who have done the dhikr Zikar in the right way - > in six weeks' time the vibrations of their body change; in six weeks > time those who do it properly become finer. Take the grossest person, > make him do the dhikr, in six weeks' time his vibrations will change. > > Hazrat Inayat Khan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Ray, don't feel bad because from my point of view I haven't had any experience remotely close to what a lot of the list has had. I too often wonder if I am not doing something right! Smiles and Hugs! Katherineraazor1 <raazor wrote: Chrism,I googled this and found a lot of article. One very long, haven't finished it yet. The science of sound . . . . changing one's vibrations. Would this be a way to become more sensitive, and possibly hasten the awakening?I have a feeling I am not all that sensitive, apart from seeing a few very bright (small, oblong) light float across my vision, and some blue spots when doing yoga, and some vibrations, I haven't had much phenomena happen to me. Certainly not anything like what I read on the list.Makes me wonder if I'm doing this right.Many thanks,Ray , "chrism" <> wrote:>> > It is possible for a person who is born with a gross> nature to become fine, other things apart, even those> who have done the dhikr Zikar in the right way -> in six weeks' time the vibrations of their body change; in six weeks> time those who do it properly become finer. Take the grossest person,> make him do the dhikr, in six weeks' time his vibrations will change.> > Hazrat Inayat Khan> Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Hi Katherine, Thank you for your encouragement. I have had some experiences, but when it comes to the visualizations and feeling the chakras inside, I have a tough time. Either my concentration or visualization ability doesn't seem to be good enough. I'm still working on it though. is right, no need for speed, I just hope to see progress! Keep the Faith! Ray , Katherine Miller <katsam19 wrote: > > Ray, don't feel bad because from my point of view I haven't had any experience remotely close to what a lot of the list has had. I too often wonder if I am not doing something right! Smiles and Hugs! > > Katherine > > raazor1 <raazor wrote: > Chrism, > I googled this and found a lot of article. One very long, haven't > finished it yet. > The science of sound . . . . changing one's vibrations. Would this be > a way to become more sensitive, and possibly hasten the awakening? > I have a feeing I am not all that sensitive, apart from seeing a few > very bright (small, oblong) light float across my vision, and some blue > spots when doing yoga, and some vibrations, I haven't had much > phenomena happen to me. Certainly not anything like what I read on the > list. > Makes me wonder if I'm doing this right. > > Many thanks, > > Ray > > , " chrism " > <@> wrote: > > > > > > It is possible for a person who is born with a gross > > nature to become fine, other things apart, even those > > who have done the dhikr Zikar in the right way - > > in six weeks' time the vibrations of their body change; in six weeks > > time those who do it properly become finer. Take the grossest person, > > make him do the dhikr, in six weeks' time his vibrations will change. > > > > Hazrat Inayat Khan > > > Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the new .com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Ray, you will work it out! When the time is right things will be right! Just keep the Faith and all will be well! Like you and said take it easy and slow! I do have to say, one thing is much better and that is my being more calm in more situations where I would have been in a fit! I have faith in you and I know you have it in me! We have each other, Chrism, and the list! Smiles! Love, Hugs, and Smiles, Katherineraazor1 <raazor wrote: Hi Katherine,Thank you for your encouragement. I have had some experiences, but when it comes to the visualizations and feeling the chakras inside, I have a tough time. Either my concentration or visualization ability doesn't seem to be good enough. I'm still working on it though. is right, no need for speed, I just hope to see progress!Keep the Faith!Ray , Katherine Miller <katsam19 wrote:>> Ray, don't feel bad because from my point of view I haven't had any experience remotely close to what a lot of the list has had. I too often wonder if I am not doing something right! Smiles and Hugs!> > Katherine> > raazor1 <raazor wrote:> Chrism,> I googled this and found a lot of article. One very long, haven't > finished it yet. > The science of sound . . . . changing one's vibrations. Would this be > a way to become more sensitive, and possibly hasten the awakening?> I have a feeing I am not all that sensitive, apart from seeing a few > very bright (small, oblong) light float across my vision, and some blue > spots when doing yoga, and some vibrations, I haven't had much > phenomena happen to me. Certainly not anything like what I read on the > list.> Makes me wonder if I'm doing this right.> > Many thanks,> > Ray> > , "chrism" > <@> wrote:> >> > > > It is possible for a person who is born with a gross> > nature to become fine, other things apart, even those> > who have done the dhikr Zikar in the right way -> > in six weeks' time the vibrations of their body change; in six weeks> > time those who do it properly become finer. Take the grossest person,> > make him do the dhikr, in six weeks' time his vibrations will change.> > > > Hazrat Inayat Khan> >> > > > > > > > Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the new .com> Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Katherine, Yes, we each have each other! The list is a great group, like a 2nd family to me. Love, Ray , Katherine Miller <katsam19 wrote: > > Ray, you will work it out! When the time is right things will be right! Just keep the Faith and all will be well! Like you and Chrism said take it easy and slow! I do have to say, one thing is much better and that is my being more calm in more situations where I would have been in a fit! I have faith in you and I know you have it in me! We have each other, Chrism, and the list! Smiles! > > Love, Hugs, and Smiles, > Katherine > > raazor1 <raazor wrote: > Hi Katherine, > Thank you for your encouragement. > I have had some experiences, but when it comes to the visualizations > and feeling the chakras inside, I have a tough time. Either my > concentration or visualization ability doesn't seem to be good > enough. I'm still working on it though. is right, no need > for speed, I just hope to see progress! > > Keep the Faith! > > Ray > , Katherine > Miller <katsam19@> wrote: > > > > Ray, don't feel bad because from my point of view I haven't had any > experience remotely close to what a lot of the list has had. I too > often wonder if I am not doing something right! Smiles and Hugs! > > > > Katherine > > > > raazor1 <raazor@> wrote: > > Chrism, > > I googled this and found a lot of article. One very long, haven't > > finished it yet. > > The science of sound . . . . changing one's vibrations. Would this > be > > a way to become more sensitive, and possibly hasten the awakening? > > I have a feeing I am not all that sensitive, apart from seeing a > few > > very bright (small, oblong) light float across my vision, and some > blue > > spots when doing yoga, and some vibrations, I haven't had much > > phenomena happen to me. Certainly not anything like what I read on > the > > list. > > Makes me wonder if I'm doing this right. > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Ray > > > > , " chrism " > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It is possible for a person who is born with a gross > > > nature to become fine, other things apart, even those > > > who have done the dhikr Zikar in the right way - > > > in six weeks' time the vibrations of their body change; in six > weeks > > > time those who do it properly become finer. Take the grossest > person, > > > make him do the dhikr, in six weeks' time his vibrations will > change. > > > > > > Hazrat Inayat Khan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on > the new .com > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Hi Ray and Kat, I really don't think it matters at all, what you feel in your heart is the important thing, everything else is just distraction. I think you are doing great Ray, no worries, just don't compare yourself to others, as we are all unique, no better or worse, no more special then the next. You have many special gifts Ray,such as a kind heart, a loving temperament, an enquiring mind, a humble nature. These are " special gifts " in my eyes. Love to you both, Elektra x x x --- raazor1 <raazor wrote: > Hi Katherine, > Thank you for your encouragement. > I have had some experiences, but when it comes to > the visualizations > and feeling the chakras inside, I have a tough time. > Either my > concentration or visualization ability doesn't seem > to be good > enough. I'm still working on it though. is > right, no need > for speed, I just hope to see progress! > > Keep the Faith! > > Ray > --- In > , > Katherine > Miller <katsam19 wrote: > > > > Ray, don't feel bad because from my point of view > I haven't had any > experience remotely close to what a lot of the list > has had. I too > often wonder if I am not doing something right! > Smiles and Hugs! > > > > Katherine > > > > raazor1 <raazor wrote: > > Chrism, > > I googled this and found a lot of article. One > very long, haven't > > finished it yet. > > The science of sound . . . . changing one's > vibrations. Would this > be > > a way to become more sensitive, and possibly > hasten the awakening? > > I have a feeing I am not all that sensitive, apart > from seeing a > few > > very bright (small, oblong) light float across my > vision, and some > blue > > spots when doing yoga, and some vibrations, I > haven't had much > > phenomena happen to me. Certainly not anything > like what I read on > the > > list. > > Makes me wonder if I'm doing this right. > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Ray > > > > --- In > , > " chrism " > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It is possible for a person who is born with a > gross > > > nature to become fine, other things apart, even > those > > > who have done the dhikr Zikar in the right way - > > > in six weeks' time the vibrations of their body > change; in six > weeks > > > time those who do it properly become finer. Take > the grossest > person, > > > make him do the dhikr, in six weeks' time his > vibrations will > change. > > > > > > Hazrat Inayat Khan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your email and see which of your friends are > online - Right on > the new .com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Thank you Elektra, You make me smile! :-) BTW, have you ever heard of Earth Dance? I watched a DVD the other day. It was from 2004 - the 8th annual - anyway, it's a big thing worldwide with synchronized events all over the globe. Pretty cool. I though of you cause they had a DJ running the music and show. It was neat. Love and Peace, Ray , Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote: > > Hi Ray and Kat, > I really don't think it matters at all, what you feel > in your heart is the important thing, everything else > is just distraction. > I think you are doing great Ray, no worries, just > don't compare yourself to others, as we are all > unique, no better or worse, no more special then the > next. > You have many special gifts Ray,such as a kind heart, > a loving temperament, an enquiring mind, a humble > nature. > These are " special gifts " in my eyes. > Love to you both, > Elektra x x x > > > --- raazor1 <raazor wrote: > > > Hi Katherine, > > Thank you for your encouragement. > > I have had some experiences, but when it comes to > > the visualizations > > and feeling the chakras inside, I have a tough time. > > Either my > > concentration or visualization ability doesn't seem > > to be good > > enough. I'm still working on it though. is > > right, no need > > for speed, I just hope to see progress! > > > > Keep the Faith! > > > > Ray > > --- In > > , > > Katherine > > Miller <katsam19@> wrote: > > > > > > Ray, don't feel bad because from my point of view > > I haven't had any > > experience remotely close to what a lot of the list > > has had. I too > > often wonder if I am not doing something right! > > Smiles and Hugs! > > > > > > Katherine > > > > > > raazor1 <raazor@> wrote: > > > Chrism, > > > I googled this and found a lot of article. One > > very long, haven't > > > finished it yet. > > > The science of sound . . . . changing one's > > vibrations. Would this > > be > > > a way to become more sensitive, and possibly > > hasten the awakening? > > > I have a feeing I am not all that sensitive, apart > > from seeing a > > few > > > very bright (small, oblong) light float across my > > vision, and some > > blue > > > spots when doing yoga, and some vibrations, I > > haven't had much > > > phenomena happen to me. Certainly not anything > > like what I read on > > the > > > list. > > > Makes me wonder if I'm doing this right. > > > > > > Many thanks, > > > > > > Ray > > > > > > --- In > > , > > " chrism " > > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is possible for a person who is born with a > > gross > > > > nature to become fine, other things apart, even > > those > > > > who have done the dhikr Zikar in the right way - > > > > in six weeks' time the vibrations of their body > > change; in six > > weeks > > > > time those who do it properly become finer. Take > > the grossest > > person, > > > > make him do the dhikr, in six weeks' time his > > vibrations will > > change. > > > > > > > > Hazrat Inayat Khan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your email and see which of your friends are > > online - Right on > > the new .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 I must agree with Elektra, everyone here is equally special. You are our brother here...do you have our love and support :-) P.S. it's snowing in cleveland :-( Elektra Fire wrote: > > Hi Ray and Kat, > I really don't think it matters at all, what you feel > in your heart is the important thing, everything else > is just distraction. > I think you are doing great Ray, no worries, just > don't compare yourself to others, as we are all > unique, no better or worse, no more special then the > next. > You have many special gifts Ray,such as a kind heart, > a loving temperament, an enquiring mind, a humble > nature. > These are " special gifts " in my eyes. > Love to you both, > Elektra x x x > > --- raazor1 <raazor <raazor%40adelphia.net>> wrote: > > > Hi Katherine, > > Thank you for your encouragement. > > I have had some experiences, but when it comes to > > the visualizations > > and feeling the chakras inside, I have a tough time. > > Either my > > concentration or visualization ability doesn't seem > > to be good > > enough. I'm still working on it though. is > > right, no need > > for speed, I just hope to see progress! > > > > Keep the Faith! > > > > Ray > > --- In > > > <%40>, > > Katherine > > Miller <katsam19 wrote: > > > > > > Ray, don't feel bad because from my point of view > > I haven't had any > > experience remotely close to what a lot of the list > > has had. I too > > often wonder if I am not doing something right! > > Smiles and Hugs! > > > > > > Katherine > > > > > > raazor1 <raazor wrote: > > > Chrism, > > > I googled this and found a lot of article. One > > very long, haven't > > > finished it yet. > > > The science of sound . . . . changing one's > > vibrations. Would this > > be > > > a way to become more sensitive, and possibly > > hasten the awakening? > > > I have a feeing I am not all that sensitive, apart > > from seeing a > > few > > > very bright (small, oblong) light float across my > > vision, and some > > blue > > > spots when doing yoga, and some vibrations, I > > haven't had much > > > phenomena happen to me. Certainly not anything > > like what I read on > > the > > > list. > > > Makes me wonder if I'm doing this right. > > > > > > Many thanks, > > > > > > Ray > > > > > > --- In > > > <%40>, > > " chrism " > > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is possible for a person who is born with a > > gross > > > > nature to become fine, other things apart, even > > those > > > > who have done the dhikr Zikar in the right way - > > > > in six weeks' time the vibrations of their body > > change; in six > > weeks > > > > time those who do it properly become finer. Take > > the grossest > > person, > > > > make him do the dhikr, in six weeks' time his > > vibrations will > > change. > > > > > > > > Hazrat Inayat Khan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your email and see which of your friends are > > online - Right on > > the new .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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