Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Kundalini awakening list memebers - Forgive my un-skilled writing please - > hi, chrism! and welcome! @@ Thank you Yosy @@ > > some questions, if you do not mind, ok? @@ I am honored and hope that I am up to the task @@ > > you wrote: > > -------------- > > I remain, now, with a tactile connection > from " All that Is " or whatever, whomever, > a person would wish to call " It " to the > seventh chakra. < > ------------- > > who/what is this " I " (which you keep mentioning > and referring to all through the post)? @@ Thank you for asking this as it gets right down to the core of the experience. It is (at least for me) a direct and tactile experience of " the two that are one and the one that is two " . No I will not leave it at that. But please think about it. This is an expression of non-duality and expressed duality experienced at the same time. This is the platform for the presence that comes, (they)(it)are the aspects of both. A bridge. I will send a 16 century mystical alchemical painting by Nicholas Flamel as a visual example. When the surge of (the sacred feminine) energy reaches an activated crown or the fontanel (no accident it is called this) area of the skull (the sacred male). The two forces meet. And immediately the opposites mix or connect to form what some call a divine circuit. Positive and negative equals a flow. Yin + Yang etc. The person who experiences this can feel a " Oneness with all creation " and a knowing and confirmation of a creator source. This is the " I " or the " IT " that I refer to. And I do it this way as to not offend those who feel their idea of this macro consciousness uses the name that they have come to accept and believe is theirs alone, when in fact it is all the names. Some call it God some call it Tao some call it Great Spirit. We call it these things for it to fit into our limited awareness while in the flesh that is at the same time un-limited. This Supra Consciousness or Macro Consciousness has awareness. And it is this awareness that is felt. @@ what is the nature of the relationship between this " I " and " It " / " All that Is " ? @@ " I " " IT " " All that is " are describing the same MC. and why/how would a person *wish to call " It " to the seventh chakra.* (the 'sahasrara')? @@ In my humble opinion there are many reasons " why " this would take place. This could be the " raison d'etre' " for spiritual studies to even exist. At one ment. To become a realized being. Meaning to really feel and know, by authentic experience the divine measure of a human - you. The DIVINE measure. Consider that please. The seeds of religion and the religious experience that so many are willing to die for are being invoked. So there are many " whys " . This has ramifications far beyond my limited writing skills. To evolve beyond the present state of being. The " how " is few. Following the safeties posted will begin the conditioning of the body to begin to be able to hold such a strong and tremendous charge. There are other means and the Sufi like the ancient Yogi's are secretive about it - so it would seem. They are not alone in this. Many religions and groups that survive by controlling the individual, use secrets as a way to stay in power. It would be quite difficult to control a large population of realized beings! Better to keep them in ignorance " for their own well being " it can be dangerous. Not saying that education in these areas should be given to criminals or people who are not at a point to be able to hold this safely, Hafizullah mentioned giving blasting caps to children, no of course not, and yet neither keeping it hidden locked away for ages because of a desire for control. It is time to change this paradigm. We are born with the blasting caps already inserted. They are part and parcel of our bodies and we have a right to know.imho. You Yosy can do this. Everyone on this list has it in their body right now as this post is being written. Between the coccyx and the perineum of the body is where this force is activated and bursting through and into the first energetic center or chakra this force will change your electrical potential similar to the change of a twelve volt system to a ten thousand volt system. A crude analogy but reasonable. @@ > you also write: > > -------------------- > > I often feel a very strong form of love come > through. It can shake the body with its presence > and I can only weep with surrender in response > to " Its " tremendous joy/bliss/ecstasy. < > ------------------- > > is this " love " you speak of an emotion? @@ Yes Yosy it is emotional and more, but that isn't why I weep. It is very strong and at least for me there is no option but complete surrender, not that I wouldn't anyway. It is a HUGE and omnipotent all pervading, joy! And the physical body cannot process it other than to weep and sob with joy. Another analogy please forgive my descriptive inadequacies. Twelve volts will electrocute some organisms because they are so small. That voltage can harm them to death. A Human will barely feel twelve volts, like a twelve volt square wave. The love one feels inside the Kundalini is mega wattage of electrical LOVE streaming into the body for me at the crown but also coming into the heart. It feels incredible. And any analogy or description I try will do it no justice. @@ and the > joy/bliss/extasy - how long does it last? @@ Very briefly for me. Sometimes as long as a minute. This can feel like an eternity though. Blessings and namaste' to you Yosy! @@ > yosy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Wow, Chrism, thank you for sharing that with us. Your writing is fine! Love, dhyana , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Kundalini awakening list memebers - Forgive my un-skilled writing > please - > > > > hi, chrism! and welcome! > > @@ Thank you Yosy @@ > > > > some questions, if you do not mind, ok? > > @@ I am honored and hope that I am up to the task @@ > > > > you wrote: > > > > -------------- > > > I remain, now, with a tactile connection > > from " All that Is " or whatever, whomever, > > a person would wish to call " It " to the > > seventh chakra. < > > ------------- > > > > who/what is this " I " (which you keep mentioning > > and referring to all through the post)? > > @@ Thank you for asking this as it gets right down to the core of > the experience. It is (at least for me) a direct and tactile > experience of " the two that are one and the one that is two " . > > No I will not leave it at that. But please think about it. This is > an expression of non-duality and expressed duality experienced at > the same time. This is the platform for the presence that comes, > (they)(it)are the aspects of both. A bridge. > > I will send a 16 century mystical alchemical painting by Nicholas > Flamel as a visual example. > > When the surge of (the sacred feminine) energy reaches an activated > crown or the fontanel (no accident it is called this) area of the > skull (the sacred male). The two forces meet. And immediately the > opposites mix or connect to form what some call a divine circuit. > Positive and negative equals a flow. Yin + Yang etc. > > The person who experiences this can feel a " Oneness with all > creation " and a knowing and confirmation of a creator source. This > is the " I " or the " IT " that I refer to. And I do it this way as to > not offend those who feel their idea of this macro consciousness > uses the name that they have come to accept and believe is theirs > alone, when in fact it is all the names. Some call it God some call > it Tao some call it Great Spirit. We call it these things for it to > fit into our limited awareness while in the flesh that is at the > same time un-limited. > > This Supra Consciousness or Macro Consciousness has awareness. And > it is this awareness that is felt. @@ > > > what is the nature of the relationship > between this " I " and " It " / " All that Is " ? > > @@ " I " " IT " " All that is " are describing the same MC. > > and why/how would a person *wish to call > " It " to the seventh chakra.* (the 'sahasrara')? > > @@ In my humble opinion there are many reasons " why " this would take > place. This could be the " raison d'etre' " for spiritual studies to > even exist. At one ment. To become a realized being. Meaning to > really feel and know, by authentic experience the divine measure of > a human - you. The DIVINE measure. Consider that please. The seeds > of religion and the religious experience that so many are willing to > die for are being invoked. So there are many " whys " . This has > ramifications far beyond my limited writing skills. To evolve beyond > the present state of being. > > The " how " is few. Following the safeties posted will begin the > conditioning of the body to begin to be able to hold such a strong > and tremendous charge. There are other means and the Sufi like the > ancient Yogi's are secretive about it - so it would seem. They are > not alone in this. Many religions and groups that survive by > controlling the individual, use secrets as a way to stay in power. > It would be quite difficult to control a large population of > realized beings! Better to keep them in ignorance " for their own > well being " it can be dangerous. > > Not saying that education in these areas should be given to > criminals or people who are not at a point to be able to hold this > safely, Hafizullah mentioned giving blasting caps to children, no of > course not, and yet neither keeping it hidden locked away for ages > because of a desire for control. It is time to change this > paradigm. We are born with the blasting caps already inserted. They > are part and parcel of our bodies and we have a right to know.imho. > > You Yosy can do this. Everyone on this list has it in their body > right now as this post is being written. Between the coccyx and the > perineum of the body is where this force is activated and bursting > through and into the first energetic center or chakra this force > will change your electrical potential similar to the change of a > twelve volt system to a ten thousand volt system. A crude analogy > but reasonable. @@ > > > you also write: > > > > -------------------- > > > I often feel a very strong form of love come > > through. It can shake the body with its presence > > and I can only weep with surrender in response > > to " Its " tremendous joy/bliss/ecstasy. < > > ------------------- > > > > is this " love " you speak of an emotion? > > @@ Yes Yosy it is emotional and more, but that isn't why I weep. It > is very strong and at least for me there is no option but complete > surrender, not that I wouldn't anyway. It is a HUGE and omnipotent > all pervading, joy! And the physical body cannot process it other > than to weep and sob with joy. > > Another analogy please forgive my descriptive inadequacies. Twelve > volts will electrocute some organisms because they are so small. > That voltage can harm them to death. A Human will barely feel twelve > volts, like a twelve volt square wave. The love one feels inside the > Kundalini is mega wattage of electrical LOVE streaming into the body > for me at the crown but also coming into the heart. It feels > incredible. And any analogy or description I try will do it no > justice. @@ > > > and the > > joy/bliss/extasy - how long does it last? > > @@ Very briefly for me. Sometimes as long as a minute. This can feel > like an eternity though. Blessings and namaste' to you Yosy! @@ > > > > yosy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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