Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Dear Dhama Wayfarer Just a comment on the link that you posted I don’t see that there is no difference between the Kundalini and the Holy Spirit, It seems to me that the prejudice may well depend weather the heart centre is awakened. The lady, author of what little I have read seems she is actually talking regarding the 2nd awakenings and third initiation yes it is confusing and it always seems that the kundalini is rising toward spirit. It is only seems this way because we start seemingly very gross in our attitudes. though it is not the kundalini because the kundalini is only but a verb, it is not a noun and as such it is a description of the awakening of consciousness and its attributes, the holy spirit is a adjunctive noun in reality that comes down from above it is we don’t feel it that way because it activate the most active centers which is quite often the lower centers during the first awakening, to the higher. the greatest danger is that agna has not been pre stimulated in order to develop a non chelae attitude or the Viagra Siddhi of discernment that helps the aspirant to over come the negative effects on the lower personality The way we look at it is as if the universe is traveling from Pisces to Aries to Taurus but in fact when you look at the equinox processions it is from the other way around and as such an optical illusion, and puts a mask in the form of an ancient thought form over our identity concerning our personality status. Put it another way the spirit does not evolve only the individual understanding of material creation and how we fit into it evolve. The energy of the kundalini always comes from above down, it is why Ida and pingala is so important. It is due to the balancing of these flows of energies that enables us to safely open what has been diagramed as the petals of the chakras. Though the opening of the chakras are not actually an opening Actually what is done is via what is location points where the two major nadis meet with other nadis; through deeds thoughts or concentration in turn causes a vortex to spin due to electromagnetic energy being in balance. There is the secret of gently activating the higher centers and the heart. Prior to the full blown 3rd kundalini awakening that is the 4th initiation, the fifth initiation is the one that Jesus took and it is shown to be in the statement when he said “I and my father are one”. Apparently he was the first one on this planet to ever take it. That is why he is considered to be the first born. That initiation involves the synthesis in the triadic form of the two major head center’s with the higher creative centre of the throat. And this is what I believe is the secret of the 144000 who hold the 7 golden lamps mentioned in Johns Revelations. So in actual fact she is correct though only because the Holy Spirit is a descriptive noun though she is incorrect at the same time because she does not think in the terms that the kundalini is a Verb that describes a heightening of consciousness. Though this is confused due to interoperations depicting that the kundalini as a snake and thus giving it a conscious personality of its own. However the consciousness is that in part of the universe of which the Holy Spirit is contained. So it does not have a conscious of its own only that of universal law according to its process of activation. In some occult books such as the secret doctrine our galaxy is depicted as a coiled snake as well, you may see this if you look at our spiral galaxy or the way that the Milky Way encircles us. The problem with the holy spirit from the point of view I had as a boy is the it seemed a whole lot of hog wash due to over emotionalism and dogmas, it has been my attempt of understanding what the k is and it is only over the last few years that I could even accept that they are the one and same thing, though I had been given the tip many years ago. Kundalini and the Holy Spirit There is not much awareness of Kundalini from within the Western paradigm. This lack of awareness in Western religious and spiritual circles has sent many people searching the Eastern teachings on the subject. Many have speculated that Kundalini and the Holy Spirit are the same thing. In the earlier stages of my ascension process, I used to think this was so, but as a deeper understanding grew through my experiences, I realized Kundalini represents only half the process, the Holy Spirit is needed to bring completion. In the following quote from the Gospel of the Holy Twelve, Jesus speaks of this two-step process: “By involution and evolution shall the salvation of the world be accomplished; by the Descent of Spirit into matter, and the Ascent of matter into Spirit, through the ages.” -- Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.32/523 - Release 7/11/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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