Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Dear members, People have talked a lot about surrender ..from my observation i feel that surrender is switching off the " I " ..not thoughtless . The energy flows even if the thoughts come ....it stops or reduces only if we use our " I " . " I " reacts ..then follows the intellect " " AHH ,i'm meditating ..i should be thoughtless " . By switching off this " I " , we will reach silence eventually. I don't like to use the terms ..Conscious,subconscious,subsuperconscious ..But " I " ,Intellect and subconscious ..For humans ..i think that there is " I " , intellect and then subconscious. Enlightened beings have no " I " i guess ..Just intellect and subconscious...not an ordinary subconcious...thoughts won't come for them from subconscious ..but they can use it certainly ..for example.) if they meet their old friend ..they will able to recognize him / her. Just wanted to share. Peace , Kousik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Greetings Kousik, Everyone, Interesting thoughts you posted. For me: Surrender is...being in the moment and Allowing, like water flowing around a rock or better yet, floating in the water and Allowing the current to take you along enjoying the scenery. A cousin to Surrender might be Trust =) Love and Light, StarStuffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Yeah , i agree with you .. " floating in the water " lol..perfect one...but the " I " is the culprit here .. " I " thinks good about itself ..or bad . " I " thinks that it's higher than others or lower . " I " never knows that " high/low " itself is illusion . Many people think that intellect is bad ..intellect is good actually .Intellect knows that we are all pure being,pure bliss , pure nirvikalpa ..Intellect can analyze these things..but " I " doesn't care about this ..it's more interested in showing it's ego. Peace to you, Kousik. , " StarStuffs " <starstuffs wrote: > > Greetings Kousik, Everyone, > > Interesting thoughts you posted. > For me: > Surrender is...being in the moment and Allowing, like water flowing > around a rock or better yet, floating in the water and Allowing the > current to take you along enjoying the scenery. A cousin to Surrender > might be Trust =) > > Love and Light, > StarStuffs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Greetings, Here is another thought to add to this thread. Surrender is... ...In the consuming state Beingness, the 'I Amness' goes into oblivion, you forget yourSelf completely. The 'I Amness' ebbs and flows, it's the focus that changes (for some), the focus such as the difference between sleep and awakeness. The Absolute remains unchanged. The Absolute is the whole, undifferentiated state that transcends birth and death..this is the state of Beingness..there is no 'I Amness' for there is no thought, no intellect, no consciousness it is merely a state of Being. I do love the analogy of water.. Floating in the water with no thinking of the Self..we become the water *and* the wave, the raindrop *and* the ocean. " The wave does not have to search for water, because water is the very substance of the wave. " Thich Nhat Hanh Love and Light, StarStuffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 when the fire is reflected in the water it is supremely tempting for the water to believe it is actually the fire. however, when we remove the fire from the water, there is nothing left for the water to reflect, so it merely sees its own formlessness and nonentity. -brian , " StarStuffs " <starstuffs wrote: > > Greetings, > > Here is another thought to add to this thread. > > Surrender is... > > ..In the consuming state Beingness, the 'I Amness' goes into > oblivion, you forget yourSelf completely. The 'I Amness' ebbs and > flows, it's the focus that changes (for some), the focus such as the > difference between sleep and awakeness. The Absolute remains > unchanged. The Absolute is the whole, undifferentiated state that > transcends birth and death..this is the state of Beingness..there is > no 'I Amness' for there is no thought, no intellect, no consciousness > it is merely a state of Being. > > I do love the analogy of water.. > > Floating in the water with no thinking of the Self..we become the > water *and* the wave, the raindrop *and* the ocean. > > > " The wave does not have to search for water, because water is the > very substance of the wave. " > Thich Nhat Hanh > > > > Love and Light, > StarStuffs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Another thought: Brahman (Absolute) might be visualized as sunlight upon the surface of a lake....You can attain knowledge of Brahman through reflection on its attributes. However the reflection is not the sun itself for the sun is in the sky from which the sunlight emits from. " ..seeing the reflection of the sun one does not have the knowledge of its being in the east or the west, in the same way by realising Brabman in the heart one does not realise the all pervasiveness of Brahman.. " ~ Flowing like water and enjoying this thread's wisdom ~ Love and Light, StarStuffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Nice thought star , " StarStuffs " <starstuffs wrote: > > Greetings, > > Here is another thought to add to this thread. > > Surrender is... > > ..In the consuming state Beingness, the 'I Amness' goes into > oblivion, you forget yourSelf completely. The 'I Amness' ebbs and > flows, it's the focus that changes (for some), the focus such as the > difference between sleep and awakeness. The Absolute remains > unchanged. The Absolute is the whole, undifferentiated state that > transcends birth and death..this is the state of Beingness..there is > no 'I Amness' for there is no thought, no intellect, no consciousness > it is merely a state of Being. > > I do love the analogy of water.. > > Floating in the water with no thinking of the Self..we become the > water *and* the wave, the raindrop *and* the ocean. > > > " The wave does not have to search for water, because water is the > very substance of the wave. " > Thich Nhat Hanh > > > > Love and Light, > StarStuffs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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