Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Many pseudo-esoterists have committed unspeakable genocides. When fear mongers act against the Kundalini, indeed, it is a true genocide. It is an indescribable crime against humanity to tell people in published books that the awakening of the Kundalini is dangerous. Those who spread fear against the Kundalini are worse than war criminals. The latter committed crimes against people, however, the pseudo-esoterists who spread fear, commit crimes against the Soul. It is false to state that the Kundalini can awaken without moral progress, and due to this, one must wait until such progress is made. The development of the Kundalini is controlled by the merits of the heart. Therefore, that absurd affirmation of the fear mongers that the Kundalini can leave the medullar canal, tear tissue, produce terrible pains and cause death, is false. Each of the seven chakras has its specialised Masters who watch over the student. The student is not abandoned in the work. When the student awakens the first chakra, he is attended by a specialist and when the second chakra is awakened, he is helped by another and so on. These specialists take the Kundalini through the medullar canal. No student is abandoned. The specialists have to answer for the student. The specialists live in the astral world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 I totally agree, Its like telling people never to leave the womb or grow up. Every human being is driven to seek altered states of consciousness because they yearn for transcendence - they yearn to awaken their kundalini... This can manifest as addictions to sex, drugs, alchohol, anti social activities, money worship, materialism... The list goes on, is kundalini awakening really more dangerous? Bless up - James , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Many pseudo-esoterists have committed unspeakable genocides. When > fear mongers act against the Kundalini, indeed, it is a true > genocide. It is an indescribable crime against humanity to tell > people in published books that the awakening of the Kundalini is > dangerous. Those who spread fear against the Kundalini are worse > than war criminals. The latter committed crimes against people, > however, the pseudo-esoterists who spread fear, commit crimes > against the Soul. > > It is false to state that the Kundalini can awaken without moral > progress, and due to this, one must wait until such progress is > made. The development of the Kundalini is controlled by the merits > of the heart. Therefore, that absurd affirmation of the fear > mongers that the Kundalini can leave the medullar canal, tear > tissue, produce terrible pains and cause death, is false. > > Each of the seven chakras has its specialised Masters who watch over > the student. The student is not abandoned in the work. When the > student awakens the first chakra, he is attended by a specialist and > when the second chakra is awakened, he is helped by another and so > on. These specialists take the Kundalini through the medullar canal. > No student is abandoned. The specialists have to answer for the > student. The specialists live in the astral world. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 > The list goes on, is kundalini awakening really more dangerous? yes, it's more dangerous to the ruling class for sure. priestcraft withheld writing and arithmetic for centuries (Archaic Greece, Egypt, Babylon, probably at least as far back as Sumeria). the simple explanation is that until now it couldn't find a way to make money from selling/giving-away kundalini; this has since been remedied. in other words society is interested in not eliminating " sex, drugs, alchohol, anti social activities, money worship, materialism " because it knows how to deal profitably with all of it - esp. the first three, which are even today the largest market capitalization (in the 100's of billions), as they were in primitive times. not to mention the tens of billions in insurance premiums and medical bills the suffering majority represent. in short, it's about power and control. gotta keep the masses downtrodden, poor and uneducated to sustain the regime, as it was 4000 years ago it still is today. :-) and with that, smile! -brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Well said Brian. The failure of the top down model to surrender to the bottom up. The top down model is based on fear; the bottom up on faith. Maybe. LOve. , " a_seventh_son " <a_seventh_son wrote: > > > The list goes on, is kundalini awakening really more dangerous? > yes, it's more dangerous to the ruling class for sure. > priestcraft withheld writing and arithmetic for centuries > (Archaic Greece, Egypt, Babylon, probably at least as far back as > Sumeria). the simple explanation is that until now it couldn't > find a way to make money from selling/giving-away kundalini; this > has since been remedied. > > in other words society is interested in not eliminating " sex, > drugs, alchohol, anti social activities, money worship, > materialism " because it knows how to deal profitably with all of > it - esp. the first three, which are even today the largest > market capitalization (in the 100's of billions), as they were in > primitive times. not to mention the tens of billions in insurance > premiums and medical bills the suffering majority represent. in > short, it's about power and control. gotta keep the masses > downtrodden, poor and uneducated to sustain the regime, as it > was 4000 years ago it still is today. > > :-) and with that, smile! -brian > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 LOL your own words say interesting things! how could the top of the 'top-down' model surrender? then it would be the 'bottom' in its own model. that doesn't fit its win/lose dynamics, and I don't see how it ever can. if you're on top in a top-down structure, you're by definition the winner of whatever 'game' or competition it is you're playing... but there's always someone cuter/better/smarter/kinder/gentler/more advanced/younger/richer than you, jobs that are higer-pay/less-work/more-fun/less-stress, spiritual states that are more profound/blissful/visionary/powerful/insightful etc. so the competition never stops and neither can you once you've entered and hold any position. it is effectively a trap, and a VERY clever one at that, but I'd expect nothing less from nature or especially human nature. at any rate, a complex topic, thanks for your comments! -brian , " James " <milliondegrees wrote: > > Well said Brian. > The failure of the top down model to surrender to the bottom up. The > top down model is based on fear; the bottom up on faith. Maybe. LOve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Chrism, I was reading old posts and came across one of yours from Sept 15 (4475 - Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1/message/4475)in which you stress the necessity of going slowly and being gracious to your body where the K is concerned. You then talk about El Collie (a hero of mine), providing some quoted material by her and saying: @@ She activated without guidance and with out trying to (ostensibly). Her writings have been on the web now for a long time and I accessed them during my tribulations. So read this and know that she died in pain from her Kundalini activation.@@ This assertion that El actually " died in pain from her activation " seems to go against your more recent statement: @@that absurd affirmation of the fear mongers that the Kundalini can . . . produce terrible pains and cause death, is false.@@ And, your statement that she " activated without guidance " seems to go against your saying that: @@Each of the seven chakras has its specialised Masters who watch over the student. The student is not abandoned in the work...The specialists have to answer for the student. The specialists live in the astral world.@@ Certainly astral guidance, not to mention that of the Shakti herself, counts as proper guidance, and is maybe more important than physical teachers (?) Perhaps you could clear up the confusion and seeming contradiction. C., you know I am anti-fear, and so was El. Nothing I've read about her says she actually died from her K activation. She had back problems that I believe pre-existed her K activity, but she believed the pain was made worse by the K. I can't say whether the K activation ulitmately caused her death or not. I have searched for her direct cause of death, but could find nothing. Only glowing tributes to her courage and help of others. Do you have information as to the cause of death? Also, this recent statement: @@It is false to state that the Kundalini can awaken without moral progress, and due to this, one must wait until such progress is made.@@ - seems to contradict this one of Sept. 15: @@I try to be consistent in my efforts to keep some of you from moving so fast into an activation. The body needs time to develop the ability to hold these very strong energies in an activated and awakened state. It can be very hard on the physical body and the pain can last many years. Imagine burning out your entire endocrine system for starters. The safeties need to be practiced (typically) for at least three months before a spinal sweep begins. And even that is rushing it but I'm giving bare minimums now.@@ Again, you mention pain that can last for years. This is a very mysterious subject for me. Thank you in advance for clarifying your beliefs. x, Droxine , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Many pseudo-esoterists have committed unspeakable genocides. When > fear mongers act against the Kundalini, indeed, it is a true > genocide. It is an indescribable crime against humanity to tell > people in published books that the awakening of the Kundalini is > dangerous. Those who spread fear against the Kundalini are worse > than war criminals. The latter committed crimes against people, > however, the pseudo-esoterists who spread fear, commit crimes > against the Soul. > > It is false to state that the Kundalini can awaken without moral > progress, and due to this, one must wait until such progress is > made. The development of the Kundalini is controlled by the merits > of the heart. Therefore, that absurd affirmation of the fear > mongers that the Kundalini can leave the medullar canal, tear > tissue, produce terrible pains and cause death, is false. > > Each of the seven chakras has its specialised Masters who watch over > the student. The student is not abandoned in the work. When the > student awakens the first chakra, he is attended by a specialist and > when the second chakra is awakened, he is helped by another and so > on. These specialists take the Kundalini through the medullar canal. > No student is abandoned. The specialists have to answer for the > student. The specialists live in the astral world. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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