A passionate opinion - C.

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Dear Chrism,

 

Thank you for clearing up the confusion with your first sentence!!

You can't blame me for being confused at the contradiction - it was

two different people speaking from two different viewpoints! You

really must say when you are copying someone else's writing. I can't

have been the only one who thought this sounded very " un-Chrismlike, "

particularly the overly dramatic " worse than war criminals " rant.

 

I am relieved to have this sorted. Please understand that my

confusion was at your apparent self-contradiction/about face and not

really about any of the subjects raised - only the inconsistencies.

 

I know the potential for pain and sickness and why this happens,

though El disagreed with the community that this was always

attributable to some moral failing on the part of the awakening

individual. I always felt this view of hers came from a very

compassionate and loving place.

 

Of course if there are proven techniqes that can smooth and

facilitate the transformation, those should be practiced. But, the

quick judgements and blameful admonitions El encountered from K

teachers were apparently enough to make her suspect of the advice of

*some.*

 

It is hard to read her book and not come away feeling she did

everything she could to welcome the Shakti and bask in Her glow, yet

still she had trouble (physically) with the adjustment. Maybe there

are just some cases that can do everything right and totally submit

and still be overwhelmed for reasons that aren't apparent at the time.

 

Even with her agony, she had no regrets. No, I don't have any

issues. Thanks again for clarifying the authorship of the recent

post.

 

x,

Droxine

 

 

 

 

, chrism

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>

> Hello Droxine,

> The opinion wasn't mine, but of another

person who's name wasn't available.

>

> I found it amusing in its passion and do, to some degree, agree

with its character. Certainly regarding the fear mongering around the

subject. There is guidance but is that guidance followed? Do people

give up lifelong habits that will cause them amplified pain and hurt

because the Kundalini presses them to? No, not always. So what then

is the cause of the pain? The person is. Free will is free will.

>

> Sometimes with the Kundalini it comes down to the chicken or the

egg. Is it the flow causing the issue or is it the persons response

to that flow. This is why the safeties were developed so that there

is recourse to the amplification of " issues " with in the Kundalini

flow. This is why I stress emotional balance.

>

> The safeties teach moral guidance. So it is true to that unknown

persons opinion. Moral guidance comes and isn't to be ignored. If it

is ...then other avenues of persuasion can occur. Sometimes this can

be a painful lesson. So once again is it the K or the person causing

the pain? If you read the safeties every question you have asked is

answered minus those about El. The body and its emotions and and

Kundalini are not separated easily. Sometimes I must try and do this

to help with understanding certain elements of the experience.

>

> Pain can occur that is MY opinion Droxine. I have experienced it

so I can say with the utmost confidence that it can occur. Does it

have to? Depends on the person. When the Kidneys expand that can be

painful. If you stay hydrated? That pain goes away. If not guess

what? Do you practice forgiveness sincerely? Then there is no pain in

the heart. etc. and the moral guidance is kept. Do you eat meat when

guided to go vegetarian? Guess what happens? Do you have sex when

guided not to? Guess what happens. On and on.

>

> If you move into an activated state to quickly without

conditioning from the practice of the safeties then it can hurt.

Doesn't have to but it CAN. The possibility exists. And the pain can

continue for years if the cause is not taken care of.

>

> You haven't read enough about El Collie if you haven't read about

the degree of pain she was in and I didn't say it killed her I said

the pain from the activation did that and even that is not the

absolute truth as kindness to her family and memory stops my going

further and I mean stops.

>

> You have fear over this? Is it so unknown to you? Pain is a

product of ignorance in this context. Many people are not used to

being guided the way Kundalini does it so at first they do not know

what to do. So the safeties come into play.

>

> You are cherry picking Droxine about pain, the subject is pain

with you.Why? - lol! -

>