Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hi- I always say -- " Join the revolution, stop drinking coffee. " Caffeine has to be the one drug which is the most abused. If stress is an major health issue then caffeine is one of the contributing factors by enabling individuals to continue participating in a society that is blind to the detriment of its expectations and demands. It is a vicious cycle of abuse on the societal level. Bret On Jan 24, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Kundalini-Awakening- Systems-1 wrote: > within the past decade and in the past five years in particular, > coffee has enjoyed a runaway popularity, and youth increasingly are > consumers of a now multi-billion-dollar " energy drink " market. I'd be > curious as to anyone's opinions on the matter - are we deliberately > (but unconsciously) trying to anchor beta-consciousness as the > prevailing psychic condition? also, conspiracy theorists, the door is > open! > > disclaimer -- for good or ill I was never much of a caffeine drinker > until after experience w/kundalini. in college I grew into soda > (Mountain Dew primarily) and have since moved on to flavored coffee, > but consume fairly sparingly. no alcohol, maybe twice a year at > holiday or so. the caffeine habits I've personally observed border on > the ridiculous, in young and old (who might be surmised to " know > better " !). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 But...I love my coffee Perhaps I will slowly transition back to decaf. I need a little abuse in my life lisa Bret Arenson wrote: > > Hi- > > I always say -- " Join the revolution, stop drinking coffee. " > > Caffeine has to be the one drug which is the most abused. If stress > is an major health issue then caffeine is one of the contributing > factors by enabling individuals to continue participating in a > society that is blind to the detriment of its expectations and > demands. It is a vicious cycle of abuse on the societal level. > > Bret > > On Jan 24, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Kundalini-Awakening- > Systems-1 <Systems-1%40> wrote: > > > within the past decade and in the past five years in particular, > > coffee has enjoyed a runaway popularity, and youth increasingly are > > consumers of a now multi-billion-dollar " energy drink " market. I'd be > > curious as to anyone's opinions on the matter - are we deliberately > > (but unconsciously) trying to anchor beta-consciousness as the > > prevailing psychic condition? also, conspiracy theorists, the door is > > open! > > > > disclaimer -- for good or ill I was never much of a caffeine drinker > > until after experience w/kundalini. in college I grew into soda > > (Mountain Dew primarily) and have since moved on to flavored coffee, > > but consume fairly sparingly. no alcohol, maybe twice a year at > > holiday or so. the caffeine habits I've personally observed border on > > the ridiculous, in young and old (who might be surmised to " know > > better " !). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hello Bret, You are soo right about this. - blessings to you - chrism Bret Arenson <bretarenson wrote: Hi- I always say -- " Join the revolution, stop drinking coffee. " Caffeine has to be the one drug which is the most abused. If stress is an major health issue then caffeine is one of the contributing factors by enabling individuals to continue participating in a society that is blind to the detriment of its expectations and demands. It is a vicious cycle of abuse on the societal level. Bret On Jan 24, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Kundalini-Awakening- Systems-1 wrote: > within the past decade and in the past five years in particular, > coffee has enjoyed a runaway popularity, and youth increasingly are > consumers of a now multi-billion-dollar " energy drink " market. I'd be > curious as to anyone's opinions on the matter - are we deliberately > (but unconsciously) trying to anchor beta-consciousness as the > prevailing psychic condition? also, conspiracy theorists, the door is > open! > > disclaimer -- for good or ill I was never much of a caffeine drinker > until after experience w/kundalini. in college I grew into soda > (Mountain Dew primarily) and have since moved on to flavored coffee, > but consume fairly sparingly. no alcohol, maybe twice a year at > holiday or so. the caffeine habits I've personally observed border on > the ridiculous, in young and old (who might be surmised to " know > better " !). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 hi Lisa, A great substitute for coffee (which i also drink once a day, and love) is yerba mate. A great drink which is also meant to stimulate spiritual growth. Decaf is also an unnatural chemical process most of the time, leaving a residue on the coffee, you may aswell have it as nature intended or not at all in my humble opinion. Lots of love Elektra x x x --- Leshya <pleiades69 wrote: > But...I love my coffee Perhaps I will slowly > transition > back to decaf. I need a little abuse in my life > lisa > > Bret Arenson wrote: > > > > Hi- > > > > I always say -- " Join the revolution, stop > drinking coffee. " > > > > Caffeine has to be the one drug which is the most > abused. If stress > > is an major health issue then caffeine is one of > the contributing > > factors by enabling individuals to continue > participating in a > > society that is blind to the detriment of its > expectations and > > demands. It is a vicious cycle of abuse on the > societal level. > > > > Bret > > > > On Jan 24, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Kundalini-Awakening- > > Systems-1 > <Systems-1%40> wrote: > > > > > within the past decade and in the past five > years in particular, > > > coffee has enjoyed a runaway popularity, and > youth increasingly are > > > consumers of a now multi-billion-dollar " energy > drink " market. I'd be > > > curious as to anyone's opinions on the matter - > are we deliberately > > > (but unconsciously) trying to anchor > beta-consciousness as the > > > prevailing psychic condition? also, conspiracy > theorists, the door is > > > open! > > > > > > disclaimer -- for good or ill I was never much > of a caffeine drinker > > > until after experience w/kundalini. in college I > grew into soda > > > (Mountain Dew primarily) and have since moved on > to flavored coffee, > > > but consume fairly sparingly. no alcohol, maybe > twice a year at > > > holiday or so. the caffeine habits I've > personally observed border on > > > the ridiculous, in young and old (who might be > surmised to " know > > > better " !). > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 I love Yerba Mate, I bought a couple of boxes from the store. Thank you for the advise. I do remember reading about the processing of decaf coffee. I didn't know yerba mate stimulated spiritual growth, do all teas do this? blessings lisa Elektra Fire wrote: > > hi Lisa, > > A great substitute for coffee (which i also drink once > a day, and love) > is yerba mate. A great drink which is also meant to > stimulate spiritual growth. > Decaf is also an unnatural chemical process most of > the time, leaving a residue on the coffee, you may > aswell have it as nature intended or not at all in my > humble opinion. > > Lots of love Elektra x x x > > --- Leshya <pleiades69 <pleiades69%40cox.net>> wrote: > > > But...I love my coffee Perhaps I will slowly > > transition > > back to decaf. I need a little abuse in my life > > lisa > > > > Bret Arenson wrote: > > > > > > Hi- > > > > > > I always say -- " Join the revolution, stop > > drinking coffee. " > > > > > > Caffeine has to be the one drug which is the most > > abused. If stress > > > is an major health issue then caffeine is one of > > the contributing > > > factors by enabling individuals to continue > > participating in a > > > society that is blind to the detriment of its > > expectations and > > > demands. It is a vicious cycle of abuse on the > > societal level. > > > > > > Bret > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Kundalini-Awakening- > > > Systems-1 <Systems-1%40> > > <Systems-1%40> wrote: > > > > > > > within the past decade and in the past five > > years in particular, > > > > coffee has enjoyed a runaway popularity, and > > youth increasingly are > > > > consumers of a now multi-billion-dollar " energy > > drink " market. I'd be > > > > curious as to anyone's opinions on the matter - > > are we deliberately > > > > (but unconsciously) trying to anchor > > beta-consciousness as the > > > > prevailing psychic condition? also, conspiracy > > theorists, the door is > > > > open! > > > > > > > > disclaimer -- for good or ill I was never much > > of a caffeine drinker > > > > until after experience w/kundalini. in college I > > grew into soda > > > > (Mountain Dew primarily) and have since moved on > > to flavored coffee, > > > > but consume fairly sparingly. no alcohol, maybe > > twice a year at > > > > holiday or so. the caffeine habits I've > > personally observed border on > > > > the ridiculous, in young and old (who might be > > surmised to " know > > > > better " !). > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 I'm sure that many herbs have subtle effects on our energy bodies, I mean all our bodies are effecting one another anyway, but I'm not sure what ones, I've only heard that about yerba mate, but sage tea must be good also. We could experiement ourselves and see what we think. I love a good experiment!!!! Love to ya Lisa, Elektra x x x --- Leshya <pleiades69 wrote: > I love Yerba Mate, I bought a couple of boxes from > the store. > Thank you for the advise. I do remember reading > about the > processing of decaf coffee. I didn't know yerba mate > stimulated > spiritual growth, do all teas do this? > blessings > lisa > > Elektra Fire wrote: > > > > hi Lisa, > > > > A great substitute for coffee (which i also drink > once > > a day, and love) > > is yerba mate. A great drink which is also meant > to > > stimulate spiritual growth. > > Decaf is also an unnatural chemical process most > of > > the time, leaving a residue on the coffee, you may > > aswell have it as nature intended or not at all in > my > > humble opinion. > > > > Lots of love Elektra x x x > > > > --- Leshya <pleiades69 > <pleiades69%40cox.net>> wrote: > > > > > But...I love my coffee Perhaps I will slowly > > > transition > > > back to decaf. I need a little abuse in my life > > > > lisa > > > > > > Bret Arenson wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi- > > > > > > > > I always say -- " Join the revolution, stop > > > drinking coffee. " > > > > > > > > Caffeine has to be the one drug which is the > most > > > abused. If stress > > > > is an major health issue then caffeine is one > of > > > the contributing > > > > factors by enabling individuals to continue > > > participating in a > > > > society that is blind to the detriment of its > > > expectations and > > > > demands. It is a vicious cycle of abuse on the > > > societal level. > > > > > > > > Bret > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2007, at 8:40 AM, > Kundalini-Awakening- > > > > Systems-1 > <Systems-1%40> > > > <Systems-1%40> wrote: > > > > > > > > > within the past decade and in the past five > > > years in particular, > > > > > coffee has enjoyed a runaway popularity, and > > > youth increasingly are > > > > > consumers of a now multi-billion-dollar > " energy > > > drink " market. I'd be > > > > > curious as to anyone's opinions on the > matter - > > > are we deliberately > > > > > (but unconsciously) trying to anchor > > > beta-consciousness as the > > > > > prevailing psychic condition? also, > conspiracy > > > theorists, the door is > > > > > open! > > > > > > > > > > disclaimer -- for good or ill I was never > much > > > of a caffeine drinker > > > > > until after experience w/kundalini. in > college I > > > grew into soda > > > > > (Mountain Dew primarily) and have since > moved on > > > to flavored coffee, > > > > > but consume fairly sparingly. no alcohol, > maybe > > > twice a year at > > > > > holiday or so. the caffeine habits I've > > > personally observed border on > > > > > the ridiculous, in young and old (who might > be > > > surmised to " know > > > > > better " !). > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 I have a friend who is Cherokee and she drinks and uses sage for just about everything. It is also used by some to cleanse their auras and chakras and others while meditating, so I would venture to say that if one were to choose an herb for spiritual experiments it would be sage. Anyway, that is my input on things. Love, Katherine Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote: I'm sure that many herbs have subtle effects on our energy bodies, I mean all our bodies are effecting one another anyway, but I'm not sure what ones, I've only heard that about yerba mate, but sage tea must be good also. We could experiement ourselves and see what we think. I love a good experiment!!!! Love to ya Lisa, Elektra x x x --- Leshya <pleiades69 wrote: > I love Yerba Mate, I bought a couple of boxes from > the store. > Thank you for the advise. I do remember reading > about the > processing of decaf coffee. I didn't know yerba mate > stimulated > spiritual growth, do all teas do this? > blessings > lisa > > Elektra Fire wrote: > > > > hi Lisa, > > > > A great substitute for coffee (which i also drink > once > > a day, and love) > > is yerba mate. A great drink which is also meant > to > > stimulate spiritual growth. > > Decaf is also an unnatural chemical process most > of > > the time, leaving a residue on the coffee, you may > > aswell have it as nature intended or not at all in > my > > humble opinion. > > > > Lots of love Elektra x x x > > > > --- Leshya <pleiades69 > <pleiades69%40cox.net>> wrote: > > > > > But...I love my coffee Perhaps I will slowly > > > transition > > > back to decaf. I need a little abuse in my life > > > > lisa > > > > > > Bret Arenson wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi- > > > > > > > > I always say -- " Join the revolution, stop > > > drinking coffee. " > > > > > > > > Caffeine has to be the one drug which is the > most > > > abused. If stress > > > > is an major health issue then caffeine is one > of > > > the contributing > > > > factors by enabling individuals to continue > > > participating in a > > > > society that is blind to the detriment of its > > > expectations and > > > > demands. It is a vicious cycle of abuse on the > > > societal level. > > > > > > > > Bret > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2007, at 8:40 AM, > Kundalini-Awakening- > > > > Systems-1 > <Systems-1%40> > > > <Systems-1%40> wrote: > > > > > > > > > within the past decade and in the past five > > > years in particular, > > > > > coffee has enjoyed a runaway popularity, and > > > youth increasingly are > > > > > consumers of a now multi-billion-dollar > " energy > > > drink " market. I'd be > > > > > curious as to anyone's opinions on the > matter - > > > are we deliberately > > > > > (but unconsciously) trying to anchor > > > beta-consciousness as the > > > > > prevailing psychic condition? also, > conspiracy > > > theorists, the door is > > > > > open! > > > > > > > > > > disclaimer -- for good or ill I was never > much > > > of a caffeine drinker > > > > > until after experience w/kundalini. in > college I > > > grew into soda > > > > > (Mountain Dew primarily) and have since > moved on > > > to flavored coffee, > > > > > but consume fairly sparingly. no alcohol, > maybe > > > twice a year at > > > > > holiday or so. the caffeine habits I've > > > personally observed border on > > > > > the ridiculous, in young and old (who might > be > > > surmised to " know > > > > > better " !). > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 I'm going to try Yerba Mate, but in reading about it on the web (ignoring some of the hype), it appears to be very close, chemically, to caffeine. In talking with my wife (from Brazil), it is used widely there instead of coffee. I get the feeling that much of what you read on the internet about it is just marketing. >Katherine Miller <katsam19 > > >Re: Re: Cafine >Fri, 26 Jan 2007 05:10:16 -0800 (PST) > >I have a friend who is Cherokee and she drinks and uses sage for just about >everything. It is also used by some to cleanse their auras and chakras and >others while meditating, so I would venture to say that if one were to >choose an herb for spiritual experiments it would be sage. Anyway, that is >my input on things. > > Love, > Katherine > >Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote: > I'm sure that many herbs have subtle effects on our >energy bodies, I mean all our bodies are effecting one >another anyway, but I'm not sure what ones, I've only >heard that about yerba mate, but sage tea must be good >also. >We could experiement ourselves and see what we think. >I love a good experiment!!!! > >Love to ya Lisa, >Elektra x x x > >--- Leshya <pleiades69 wrote: > > > I love Yerba Mate, I bought a couple of boxes from > > the store. > > Thank you for the advise. I do remember reading > > about the > > processing of decaf coffee. I didn't know yerba mate > > stimulated > > spiritual growth, do all teas do this? > > blessings > > lisa > > > > Elektra Fire wrote: > > > > > > hi Lisa, > > > > > > A great substitute for coffee (which i also drink > > once > > > a day, and love) > > > is yerba mate. A great drink which is also meant > > to > > > stimulate spiritual growth. > > > Decaf is also an unnatural chemical process most > > of > > > the time, leaving a residue on the coffee, you may > > > aswell have it as nature intended or not at all in > > my > > > humble opinion. > > > > > > Lots of love Elektra x x x > > > > > > --- Leshya <pleiades69 > > <pleiades69%40cox.net>> wrote: > > > > > > > But...I love my coffee Perhaps I will slowly > > > > transition > > > > back to decaf. I need a little abuse in my life > > > > > > lisa > > > > > > > > Bret Arenson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi- > > > > > > > > > > I always say -- " Join the revolution, stop > > > > drinking coffee. " > > > > > > > > > > Caffeine has to be the one drug which is the > > most > > > > abused. If stress > > > > > is an major health issue then caffeine is one > > of > > > > the contributing > > > > > factors by enabling individuals to continue > > > > participating in a > > > > > society that is blind to the detriment of its > > > > expectations and > > > > > demands. It is a vicious cycle of abuse on the > > > > societal level. > > > > > > > > > > Bret > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2007, at 8:40 AM, > > Kundalini-Awakening- > > > > > Systems-1 > > <Systems-1%40> > > > > <Systems-1%40> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > within the past decade and in the past five > > > > years in particular, > > > > > > coffee has enjoyed a runaway popularity, and > > > > youth increasingly are > > > > > > consumers of a now multi-billion-dollar > > " energy > > > > drink " market. I'd be > > > > > > curious as to anyone's opinions on the > > matter - > > > > are we deliberately > > > > > > (but unconsciously) trying to anchor > > > > beta-consciousness as the > > > > > > prevailing psychic condition? also, > > conspiracy > > > > theorists, the door is > > > > > > open! > > > > > > > > > > > > disclaimer -- for good or ill I was never > > much > > > > of a caffeine drinker > > > > > > until after experience w/kundalini. in > > college I > > > > grew into soda > > > > > > (Mountain Dew primarily) and have since > > moved on > > > > to flavored coffee, > > > > > > but consume fairly sparingly. no alcohol, > > maybe > > > > twice a year at > > > > > > holiday or so. the caffeine habits I've > > > > personally observed border on > > > > > > the ridiculous, in young and old (who might > > be > > > > surmised to " know > > > > > > better " !). > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Hello Paul, Welcome. Yes there is lots of hype on the internet. Kundalini gets hyped as well. Nice to read your voice - Paul F <paulffff wrote: I'm going to try Yerba Mate, but in reading about it on the web (ignoring some of the hype), it appears to be very close, chemically, to caffeine. In talking with my wife (from Brazil), it is used widely there instead of coffee. I get the feeling that much of what you read on the internet about it is just marketing. >Katherine Miller > > >Re: Re: Cafine >Fri, 26 Jan 2007 05:10:16 -0800 (PST) > >I have a friend who is Cherokee and she drinks and uses sage for just about >everything. It is also used by some to cleanse their auras and chakras and >others while meditating, so I would venture to say that if one were to >choose an herb for spiritual experiments it would be sage. Anyway, that is >my input on things. > > Love, > Katherine > >Elektra Fire wrote: > I'm sure that many herbs have subtle effects on our >energy bodies, I mean all our bodies are effecting one >another anyway, but I'm not sure what ones, I've only >heard that about yerba mate, but sage tea must be good >also. >We could experiement ourselves and see what we think. >I love a good experiment!!!! > >Love to ya Lisa, >Elektra x x x > >--- Leshya wrote: > > > I love Yerba Mate, I bought a couple of boxes from > > the store. > > Thank you for the advise. I do remember reading > > about the > > processing of decaf coffee. I didn't know yerba mate > > stimulated > > spiritual growth, do all teas do this? > > blessings > > lisa > > > > Elektra Fire wrote: > > > > > > hi Lisa, > > > > > > A great substitute for coffee (which i also drink > > once > > > a day, and love) > > > is yerba mate. A great drink which is also meant > > to > > > stimulate spiritual growth. > > > Decaf is also an unnatural chemical process most > > of > > > the time, leaving a residue on the coffee, you may > > > aswell have it as nature intended or not at all in > > my > > > humble opinion. > > > > > > Lots of love Elektra x x x > > > > > > --- Leshya > > > wrote: > > > > > > > But...I love my coffee Perhaps I will slowly > > > > transition > > > > back to decaf. I need a little abuse in my life > > > > > > lisa > > > > > > > > Bret Arenson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi- > > > > > > > > > > I always say -- " Join the revolution, stop > > > > drinking coffee. " > > > > > > > > > > Caffeine has to be the one drug which is the > > most > > > > abused. If stress > > > > > is an major health issue then caffeine is one > > of > > > > the contributing > > > > > factors by enabling individuals to continue > > > > participating in a > > > > > society that is blind to the detriment of its > > > > expectations and > > > > > demands. It is a vicious cycle of abuse on the > > > > societal level. > > > > > > > > > > Bret > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2007, at 8:40 AM, > > Kundalini-Awakening- > > > > > Systems-1 > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > within the past decade and in the past five > > > > years in particular, > > > > > > coffee has enjoyed a runaway popularity, and > > > > youth increasingly are > > > > > > consumers of a now multi-billion-dollar > > " energy > > > > drink " market. I'd be > > > > > > curious as to anyone's opinions on the > > matter - > > > > are we deliberately > > > > > > (but unconsciously) trying to anchor > > > > beta-consciousness as the > > > > > > prevailing psychic condition? also, > > conspiracy > > > > theorists, the door is > > > > > > open! > > > > > > > > > > > > disclaimer -- for good or ill I was never > > much > > > > of a caffeine drinker > > > > > > until after experience w/kundalini. in > > college I > > > > grew into soda > > > > > > (Mountain Dew primarily) and have since > > moved on > > > > to flavored coffee, > > > > > > but consume fairly sparingly. no alcohol, > > maybe > > > > twice a year at > > > > > > holiday or so. the caffeine habits I've > > > > personally observed border on > > > > > > the ridiculous, in young and old (who might > > be > > > > surmised to " know > > > > > > better " !). > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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