Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Hi Paul- Oh yeah, I see your concern. I was made non-functional for many years myself. Although I considered it to be a bout of chronic fatigue now I am not so sure if it wasn't a precursor to the the kundalini, or maybe the kundalini itself. In any case I cannot but think that dealing with that protracted challenge gave me insights and gifts I would not have found without those dark years. Before the fact I do not know I would have signed on but after the fact there is no way not to see it as a powerfully formative experience. BTW my onset was spontaneous. Personally I do not know why anyone would choose the kundalini. It seem to require great attention and for me is rather unrelenting. And most importantly whatever gifts are attained can never really be understood until one attains them, so the desire for kundalini is a desire for something you know nothing about. The only attraction to pursue it as far as I can see would be based on desire, reaction or yearning. Let's hope that Shakti guides the supplicant through these earthy reasons towards divine insights none the less. I think it is her agenda anyway, no matter what one wants, call it subterfuge on the cosmic level. Bret On Jan 31, 2007, at 11:31 PM, Kundalini-Awakening- Systems-1 wrote: > Re: Regarding the path of Kundalini > > Posted by: " Paul F " paulffff paulrffff > > Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:55 am (PST) > > Thanks for the reply Bret. In theory I know you're correct, but > some people > seem to have been made virtually non-functional in daily life for > some years > after starting Kundalini, and since it's difficult to find a > convenient > Ashram these days (at least in the USA :-)), it tends to make one > think > twice about pursuing it. I think I've convinced myself to just take > it as > it comes though - trust is part of the process, from what I've read. > > Thanks! > Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 , Bret Arenson <bretarenson wrote: > I have a friend who wants his Kundalini awakened and your mention of people wanting to get Kundalini awakened made me think about him.I have been talking to him about the many strange happenings in my life and one time he asked me if I could give him shaktipat and I told him no because I never did it and because it involves a lot of emotional and physical upheaval and he will not be able to work at the same time.My awakening was a spontaneous one from the crown down and then from the bottom up and at first I did not know what hit me.After a couple of weeks I got this message in my mind about the children of the light and then I went and searched about it on the internet so that's how I found out about Kundalini.It was totally unexpected and I'm sure that no one could survive this and work at the same time,at least not such an intense experience as I had in the beginning. Love,Nicole > Hi Paul- > > Oh yeah, I see your concern. I was made non-functional for many years > myself. Although I considered it to be a bout of chronic fatigue now > I am not so sure if it wasn't a precursor to the the kundalini, or > maybe the kundalini itself. In any case I cannot but think that > dealing with that protracted challenge gave me insights and gifts I > would not have found without those dark years. Before the fact I do > not know I would have signed on but after the fact there is no way > not to see it as a powerfully formative experience. BTW my onset was > spontaneous. > > Personally I do not know why anyone would choose the kundalini. It > seem to require great attention and for me is rather unrelenting. And > most importantly whatever gifts are attained can never really be > understood until one attains them, so the desire for kundalini is a > desire for something you know nothing about. The only attraction to > pursue it as far as I can see would be based on desire, reaction or > yearning. Let's hope that Shakti guides the supplicant through these > earthy reasons towards divine insights none the less. I think it is > her agenda anyway, no matter what one wants, call it subterfuge on > the cosmic level. > > Bret > > On Jan 31, 2007, at 11:31 PM, Kundalini-Awakening- > Systems-1 wrote: > > > Re: Regarding the path of Kundalini > > > > Posted by: " Paul F " paulffff paulrffff > > > > Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:55 am (PST) > > > > Thanks for the reply Bret. In theory I know you're correct, but > > some people > > seem to have been made virtually non-functional in daily life for > > some years > > after starting Kundalini, and since it's difficult to find a > > convenient > > Ashram these days (at least in the USA :-)), it tends to make one > > think > > twice about pursuing it. I think I've convinced myself to just take > > it as > > it comes though - trust is part of the process, from what I've read. > > > > Thanks! > > Paul > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Thanks for the good feedback everyone. :-) Blessings to all :-) Paul > " ntaroiu " <lsirca > > > Re: Regarding the path of >Kundalini - Paul >Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:29:05 -0000 > > , Bret Arenson ><bretarenson wrote: > > >I have a friend who wants his Kundalini awakened and your mention of >people wanting to get Kundalini awakened made me think about him.I >have been talking to him about the many strange happenings in my >life and one time he asked me if I could give him shaktipat and I >told him no because I never did it and because it involves a lot of >emotional and physical upheaval and he will not be able to work at >the same time.My awakening was a spontaneous one from the crown down >and then from the bottom up and at first I did not know what hit >me.After a couple of weeks I got this message in my mind about the >children of the light and then I went and searched about it on the >internet so that's how I found out about Kundalini.It was totally >unexpected and I'm sure that no one could survive this and work at >the same time,at least not such an intense experience as I had in >the beginning. > > Love,Nicole > > > > Hi Paul- > > > > Oh yeah, I see your concern. I was made non-functional for many >years > > myself. Although I considered it to be a bout of chronic fatigue >now > > I am not so sure if it wasn't a precursor to the the kundalini, >or > > maybe the kundalini itself. In any case I cannot but think that > > dealing with that protracted challenge gave me insights and gifts >I > > would not have found without those dark years. Before the fact I >do > > not know I would have signed on but after the fact there is no >way > > not to see it as a powerfully formative experience. BTW my onset >was > > spontaneous. > > > > Personally I do not know why anyone would choose the kundalini. >It > > seem to require great attention and for me is rather unrelenting. >And > > most importantly whatever gifts are attained can never really be > > understood until one attains them, so the desire for kundalini is >a > > desire for something you know nothing about. The only attraction >to > > pursue it as far as I can see would be based on desire, reaction >or > > yearning. Let's hope that Shakti guides the supplicant through >these > > earthy reasons towards divine insights none the less. I think it >is > > her agenda anyway, no matter what one wants, call it subterfuge >on > > the cosmic level. > > > > Bret > > > > On Jan 31, 2007, at 11:31 PM, Kundalini-Awakening- > > Systems-1 wrote: > > > > > Re: Regarding the path of Kundalini > > > > > > Posted by: " Paul F " paulffff paulrffff > > > > > > Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:55 am (PST) > > > > > > Thanks for the reply Bret. In theory I know you're correct, but > > > some people > > > seem to have been made virtually non-functional in daily life >for > > > some years > > > after starting Kundalini, and since it's difficult to find a > > > convenient > > > Ashram these days (at least in the USA :-)), it tends to make >one > > > think > > > twice about pursuing it. I think I've convinced myself to just >take > > > it as > > > it comes though - trust is part of the process, from what I've >read. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Paul > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 I want to activiate mine, but iv been advised to re-think my reasons why and suggested that I should use my OBE stuff to achieve a state of conciouness first. Which I think he means that I should use it as a practice place to help control and tune my thoughts. Paul F <paulffff Monday, February 5, 2007 2:38:22 PM RE: Re: Regarding the path of Kundalini - Paul Thanks for the good feedback everyone. :-) Blessings to all :-) Paul > " ntaroiu " <lsirca (AT) verizon (DOT) net> >Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 >Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 >[Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: Regarding the path of >Kundalini - Paul >Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:29:05 -0000 > >Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Bret Arenson ><bretarenson@ ...> wrote: > > >I have a friend who wants his Kundalini awakened and your mention of >people wanting to get Kundalini awakened made me think about him.I >have been talking to him about the many strange happenings in my >life and one time he asked me if I could give him shaktipat and I >told him no because I never did it and because it involves a lot of >emotional and physical upheaval and he will not be able to work at >the same time.My awakening was a spontaneous one from the crown down >and then from the bottom up and at first I did not know what hit >me.After a couple of weeks I got this message in my mind about the >children of the light and then I went and searched about it on the >internet so that's how I found out about Kundalini.It was totally >unexpected and I'm sure that no one could survive this and work at >the same time,at least not such an intense experience as I had in >the beginning. > > Love,Nicole > > > > Hi Paul- > > > > Oh yeah, I see your concern. I was made non-functional for many >years > > myself. Although I considered it to be a bout of chronic fatigue >now > > I am not so sure if it wasn't a precursor to the the kundalini, >or > > maybe the kundalini itself. In any case I cannot but think that > > dealing with that protracted challenge gave me insights and gifts >I > > would not have found without those dark years. Before the fact I >do > > not know I would have signed on but after the fact there is no >way > > not to see it as a powerfully formative experience. BTW my onset >was > > spontaneous. > > > > Personally I do not know why anyone would choose the kundalini. >It > > seem to require great attention and for me is rather unrelenting. >And > > most importantly whatever gifts are attained can never really be > > understood until one attains them, so the desire for kundalini is >a > > desire for something you know nothing about. The only attraction >to > > pursue it as far as I can see would be based on desire, reaction >or > > yearning. Let's hope that Shakti guides the supplicant through >these > > earthy reasons towards divine insights none the less. I think it >is > > her agenda anyway, no matter what one wants, call it subterfuge >on > > the cosmic level. > > > > Bret > > > > On Jan 31, 2007, at 11:31 PM, Kundalini-Awakening - > > Systems-1@grou ps.com wrote: > > > > > Re: Regarding the path of Kundalini > > > > > > Posted by: " Paul F " paulffff paulrffff > > > > > > Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:55 am (PST) > > > > > > Thanks for the reply Bret. In theory I know you're correct, but > > > some people > > > seem to have been made virtually non-functional in daily life >for > > > some years > > > after starting Kundalini, and since it's difficult to find a > > > convenient > > > Ashram these days (at least in the USA :-)), it tends to make >one > > > think > > > twice about pursuing it. I think I've convinced myself to just >take > > > it as > > > it comes though - trust is part of the process, from what I've >read. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Paul > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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