Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Hello Nicole , Sometime soon you may have a dismemberment. It isn't what you think, but it can be shocking so I am pre-warning you that it MAY occur. It is a way that the Kundalini re-organizes your energetic path ways. For the benefit of the flow inside you. It can be as harsh as having your arms and legs pulled off by a seen or unseen force. Or as beneficent as having the same force pull your beating heart out and show you something else to ease your mind - Like distracting a baby. It will not hurt. Your mind can make it SEEM painful as you are conditioned by physical life to expect pain when this occurs. Teeth falling out is a symptom of this stage approaching but REALLY have no worries it is a way of realignment that is solely done for your benefit. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 @@@@@Or as beneficent as having the same force pull your beating heart out and show you something else to ease your mind@@@@@@ Chrism, I had a dream of this happening back in Sept. I never really got any meaning of what this dream could of represented. When you say dismemberment, do you mean like an ego control or a belief. At the time I was still involved with the Gnosticweb course and they teach one has to do away with the ego completely before kundalini can take place. I can understand not allowing the ego to control, but can a person exist without an ego at all? How do you see that? Can we be in the physical without an ego? Could having one's heart rip out be symbolic of having some belief taken away? Do you think my belief that we need an ego to function is wrong? In christianity we are told to put the 'ego' or 'old man' or 'old nature' under the cross. To my understanding that means to not let it control you, but to put it, (your ego self) under the control of the Christ, but not to do away with it. I guess one could see putting it under the cross is putting it to death, but one is already spiriual dead when ones ego is the part that controls your life. To me, putting the ego spiriual dead self under the cross means allowing one's being brought to spiriual life by the christ which is the greater that is within. That is my understanding of all that. In my dream, my heart was ripped out by this dark evil appearing character. I did not feel anything, because my consciousness split off into another dream character and I became the observer of this happening. At the beginning he came up to me and hit me in the stomach and threw me onto the ground. I could feel the grass on my face, but don't remember if I felt the blow to my stomach. So do you think this dream of mine has to do with kundalini or something else? I guess I'm sort of confused on this. Lovebeauty CC --- chrism <> wrote: > > Hello Nicole , > Sometime soon you may have a dismemberment. It isn't what you think, but it can be shocking so I am pre-warning you that it MAY occur. It is a way that the Kundalini re-organizes your energetic path ways. For the benefit of the flow inside you. It can be as harsh as having your arms and legs pulled off by a seen or unseen force. Or as beneficent as having the same force pull your beating heart out and show you something else to ease your mind - Like distracting a baby. It will not hurt. Your mind can make it SEEM painful as you are conditioned by physical life to expect pain when this occurs. Teeth falling out is a symptom of this stage approaching but REALLY have no worries it is a way of realignment that is solely done for your benefit. - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Please see below separated by @@ crazycats711 <crazycats711 wrote: Chrism, I had a dream of this happening back in Sept. I never really got any meaning of what this dream could of represented. When you say dismemberment, do you mean like an ego control or a belief. @@ Some of that occurs. But it isnt a complete withdrawal of the ego it is a realignment of personal priority. A different way of responding to given stimulus. Ego is necessary and yet it too must evolve. When ego evolves is it still the same thing? No it has changed and therefore is not the same thing anymore than a tree is the seed. And yet it is. So " ego " keeping its original characteristics, evolves into something more than those characteristics. It is there but not expressing in the same ways. @@ At the time I was still involved with the Gnosticweb course and they teach one has to do away with the ego completely before kundalini can take place. I can understand not allowing the ego to control, but can a person exist without an ego at all? @@ I do not speak to those teachings but in my opinion if they are taking the " Do away with Ego " literally then they are still operating from an egoic point of understanding and do not themselves understand what they teach. As far as existing without an ego, yes, " coma " patients do it quite well. But as far as the conscious person, the ego evolves with in the personal whole not devoid of that whole.@@ How do you see that? Can we be in the physical without an ego? Could having one's heart rip out be symbolic of having some belief taken away? @@ The heart being ripped out and adjusted is a good thing. It is returned to its proper place and has been realigned for an increased infusion of Kundalini. Your dream was an indication of a malicious influence coming into your personal dream space . It could have been put there by you or by another. But either way it is there for you to learn from not be afraid of. The heart is a representation of many currents of expression. It is a divine portal and a house of divinity as well as many other aspects. It can be out of balance due to specific types of conditioned responses through out a persons life. When the Kundalini comes, a balancing is sometimes required, and this is one of the purposes of a dismemberment. There are many others - to many to list - that can come into the need for a balancing just with in the area of the heart. @@ Do you think my belief that we need an ego to function is wrong? In christianity we are told to put the 'ego' or 'old man' or 'old nature' under the cross. To my understanding that means to not let it control you, but to put it, (your ego self) under the control of the Christ, but not to do away with it. @@ Yes allowing a higher aspect of egoic expression to take control. A divine expression and a higher self expression. These would correlate. @@ I guess one could see putting it under the cross is putting it to death, but one is already spiriual dead when ones ego is the part that controls your life. To me, putting the ego spiriual dead self under the cross means allowing one's being brought to spiriual life by the christ which is the greater that is within. That is my understanding of all that. In my dream, my heart was ripped out by this dark evil appearing character. I did not feel anything, because my consciousness split off into another dream character and I became the observer of this happening. At the beginning he came up to me and hit me in the stomach and threw me onto the ground. I could feel the grass on my face, but don't remember if I felt the blow to my stomach. So do you think this dream of mine has to do with kundalini or something else? @@ Perhaps as a harbringer of things to come but also an expression of fear inside the situation of life that you were in at the time and perhaps a reaction to the frequencies of knowledge and information that was being considered by you at that time. It is not of you now in this real time. It is only a memory. An experience buried to sharpen your discernment when triggered by this possible experience of dismemberment.@@ @@ @@ I guess I'm sort of confused on this. Lovebeauty CC Recent Activity 1 New Members 1 New Photos Visit Your Group Give Back for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Thank you so very much for your reply,chrism. I went all summer being attacked by dogs in dreams and in the physical. I felt like I was being psychicly attacked. It was probably at the time or sometimes soon after this dream that I rejected the Gnosticweb teachings on the kundalini. My life has improve since, but I am still left somewhat leary of dogs. In the last dog attack dream I killed the dog, which wasn't a pretty sight. Your response has helped me to understand more of what I went through and I do appreciate your taking the time to explain all that. You've given me much to ponder. Blessings to you. Lovebeauty CC , chrism <> wrote: > > Please see below separated by @@ > > crazycats711 <crazycats711 wrote: > > Chrism, I had a dream of this happening back in Sept. I never really > got any meaning of what this dream could of represented. When you say > dismemberment, do you mean like an ego control or a belief. > > @@ Some of that occurs. But it isnt a complete withdrawal of the ego it is a realignment of personal priority. A different way of responding to given stimulus. Ego is necessary and yet it too must evolve. When ego evolves is it still the same thing? No it has changed and therefore is not the same thing anymore than a tree is the seed. And yet it is. So " ego " keeping its original characteristics, evolves into something more than those characteristics. It is there but not expressing in the same ways. @@ > > > > At the > time I was still involved with the Gnosticweb course and they teach > one has to do away with the ego completely before kundalini can take > place. I can understand not allowing the ego to control, but can a > person exist without an ego at all? > > @@ I do not speak to those teachings but in my opinion if they are taking the " Do away with Ego " literally then they are still operating from an egoic point of understanding and do not themselves understand what they teach. As far as existing without an ego, yes, " coma " patients do it quite well. But as far as the conscious person, the ego evolves with in the personal whole not devoid of that whole.@@ > > > How do you see that? Can we be > in the physical without an ego? Could having one's heart rip out be > symbolic of having some belief taken away? > > @@ The heart being ripped out and adjusted is a good thing. It is returned to its proper place and has been realigned for an increased infusion of Kundalini. Your dream was an indication of a malicious influence coming into your personal dream space . It could have been put there by you or by another. But either way it is there for you to learn from not be afraid of. The heart is a representation of many currents of expression. It is a divine portal and a house of divinity as well as many other aspects. It can be out of balance due to specific types of conditioned responses through out a persons life. When the Kundalini comes, a balancing is sometimes required, and this is one of the purposes of a dismemberment. There are many others - to many to list - that can come into the need for a balancing just with in the area of the heart. @@ > > > Do you think my belief > that we need an ego to function is wrong? In christianity we are > told to put the 'ego' or 'old man' or 'old nature' under the cross. > To my understanding that means to not let it control you, but to put > it, (your ego self) under the control of the Christ, but not to do > away with it. > > @@ Yes allowing a higher aspect of egoic expression to take control. A divine expression and a higher self expression. These would correlate. @@ > > I guess one could see putting it under the cross is > putting it to death, but one is already spiriual dead when ones ego > is the part that controls your life. To me, putting the ego spiriual > dead self under the cross means allowing one's being brought to > spiriual life by the christ which is the greater that is within. That > is my understanding of all that. > > In my dream, my heart was ripped out by this dark evil appearing > character. I did not feel anything, because my consciousness split > off into another dream character and I became the observer of this > happening. At the beginning he came up to me and hit me in the > stomach and threw me onto the ground. I could feel the grass on my > face, but don't remember if I felt the blow to my stomach. > > So do you think this dream of mine has to do with kundalini or > something else? > > @@ Perhaps as a harbringer of things to come but also an expression of fear inside the situation of life that you were in at the time and perhaps a reaction to the frequencies of knowledge and information that was being considered by you at that time. It is not of you now in this real time. It is only a memory. An experience buried to sharpen your discernment when triggered by this possible experience of dismemberment.@@ > > @@ @@ > > I guess I'm sort of confused on this. > > Lovebeauty > CC > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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