Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Hello, I and a friend drove from California to Arizona, to New Mexico to Colorado then to Utah and Nevada then back to the west coast. We went to the Tehachapi mountains then to the Grand Canyon and to Sedona and Flagstaff. Then to Gallup New Mexico and Ship Rock, then across the Navajo lands and into Mesa Verde Colorado. From there we went to Moab and into Utah stopping in Provo and Salt Lake City. We stopped at the Bonneville Salt Flats and collected some salt, then went on to the town of Winnamucca(one moccasin) then to Reno and Sacramento then back to Santa Rosa. All in 4 days. Around 2000 miles. Here is some of what ocurred in Mesa Verde I went to Mesa Verde. A Kundalini student of mine had continuous visions of needing to be there so there we went. This is the place of the Pueblo builders also known as the Anasazi. They (the park service) have it set up like an outdoor museum. First may I offer my apologies if any of this is offensive to anyone who may have ancestral connections to these groups. I was informed of this possibility by the park service staff as we encountered the structures and the entities that still are with and or in them. The archeologists have their theories and they date things and connect some things and base their judgments upon what they are able to relate to and scientific method has its uses but it doesn't explain it all. The Kiva is a portion of the home that these people used for rituals and other ceremony. The Kiva takes up a little less than half of the earliest structure of these people and the one I encountered was carbon dated to 575 AD using the burned charcoal from the fire pit. There were other Kivas but I use this one as an example as this information was given to me as I silently opened to the meanings of this Kiva. The sacred feminine was clearly a very big part of these dwellings. The floor plan was in the shape of a sitting woman. The upper parts of the woman's body (head and chest) was the Kiva. The lower part of her body was the fire pit and the living and sleeping areas. This floor plan was a direct imprinting into the soil, of an ancient figurine of the fertile female. This figurine crosses all cultures. She is our mother, the Sacred Feminine. I mentioned this to the Park Service person and she was surprised and had clearly not made this connection but found it a plausible assessment. These ancient " pit dwellings " had been unearthed. This is to say they had been buried by one culture and unearthed by a different one. The entities there were pleasant and informative though burdened by actions that had occurred to them at the time of transition and also at the covering up from the Sun by the buildings that housed these " exhibits. " Many of the cliff dwellings are still in their original condition of discovery. Most of them should be and are left alone. They are quite beautiful and I will post some photos as time and my skill on the computer permit. These places are connections that we share in this present time with another time period and another culture. They are not exhibits or specimens belonging to a lab. IMHO. They are " sacred sites " and I feel they should be treated by all with the respect and dignity that I see is demanded by those who wait and watch. They have much to teach those who can be still and listen. I and my friend learned much. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Hello Chrism I am glad you had a safe and productive trip. What a fantastic voyage. I look forward to seeing the pictures. Stephen O. , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Hello, > I and a friend drove from California to Arizona, to New Mexico > to Colorado then to Utah and Nevada then back to the west coast. We > went to the Tehachapi mountains then to the Grand Canyon and to > Sedona and Flagstaff. Then to Gallup New Mexico and Ship Rock, then > across the Navajo lands and into Mesa Verde Colorado. From there we > went to Moab and into Utah stopping in Provo and Salt Lake City. We > stopped at the Bonneville Salt Flats and collected some salt, then > went on to the town of Winnamucca(one moccasin) then to Reno and > Sacramento then back to Santa Rosa. All in 4 days. Around 2000 > miles. > > Here is some of what ocurred in Mesa Verde > > I went to Mesa Verde. A Kundalini student of mine had continuous > visions of needing to be there so there we went. This is the place > of the Pueblo builders also known as the Anasazi. They (the park > service) have it set up like an outdoor museum. > > First may I offer my apologies if any of this is offensive to anyone > who may have ancestral connections to these groups. I was informed > of this possibility by the park service staff as we encountered the > structures and the entities that still are with and or in them. > > The archeologists have their theories and they date things and > connect some things and base their judgments upon what they are able > to relate to and scientific method has its uses but it doesn't > explain it all. > > The Kiva is a portion of the home that these people used for rituals > and other ceremony. The Kiva takes up a little less than half of the > earliest structure of these people and the one I encountered was > carbon dated to 575 AD using the burned charcoal from the fire pit. > > There were other Kivas but I use this one as an example as this > information was given to me as I silently opened to the meanings of > this Kiva. The sacred feminine was clearly a very big part of these > dwellings. The floor plan was in the shape of a sitting woman. The > upper parts of the woman's body (head and chest) was the Kiva. The > lower part of her body was the fire pit and the living and sleeping > areas. > > This floor plan was a direct imprinting into the soil, of an ancient > figurine of the fertile female. This figurine crosses all cultures. > She is our mother, the Sacred Feminine. I mentioned this to the Park > Service person and she was surprised and had clearly not made this > connection but found it a plausible assessment. > > These ancient " pit dwellings " had been unearthed. This is to say > they had been buried by one culture and unearthed by a different > one. The entities there were pleasant and informative though > burdened by actions that had occurred to them at the time of > transition and also at the covering up from the Sun by the buildings > that housed these " exhibits. " Many of the cliff dwellings are still > in their original condition of discovery. Most of them should be and > are left alone. They are quite beautiful and I will post some photos > as time and my skill on the computer permit. > > These places are connections that we share in this present time with > another time period and another culture. They are not exhibits or > specimens belonging to a lab. IMHO. They are " sacred sites " and I > feel they should be treated by all with the respect and dignity that > I see is demanded by those who wait and watch. They have much to > teach those who can be still and listen. I and my friend learned > much. - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 The Student, who wishes anonymity, also wanted to fly in a helicopter over the Grand Canyon. This was an exciting part of the trip. Lots of pics during that experience. In Sedona we meditated on the " Bell Rock " vortex and found hollow spaces just under the surface of the rock to sit over during the meditation. We met a man from Japan and formed a trinity for special prayers. The rocks and land are very Red! A first chakra place. A place to begin. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Dear Chrism, Your trips sounds like you have a very enjoyable time and learned much! I hope to hear more about your travels and I hope to one day go to some of these places myself. I want to travel to Peru one day to Machu Picchu. I think that would be most interesting. Anyway, sounds wonderful and inviting. Thanks a bunch for sharing with us. Love, Katherine chrism <> wrote: Hello, I and a friend drove from California to Arizona, to New Mexico to Colorado then to Utah and Nevada then back to the west coast. We went to the Tehachapi mountains then to the Grand Canyon and to Sedona and Flagstaff. Then to Gallup New Mexico and Ship Rock, then across the Navajo lands and into Mesa Verde Colorado. From there we went to Moab and into Utah stopping in Provo and Salt Lake City. We stopped at the Bonneville Salt Flats and collected some salt, then went on to the town of Winnamucca(one moccasin) then to Reno and Sacramento then back to Santa Rosa. All in 4 days. Around 2000 miles. Here is some of what ocurred in Mesa Verde I went to Mesa Verde. A Kundalini student of mine had continuous visions of needing to be there so there we went. This is the place of the Pueblo builders also known as the Anasazi. They (the park service) have it set up like an outdoor museum. First may I offer my apologies if any of this is offensive to anyone who may have ancestral connections to these groups. I was informed of this possibility by the park service staff as we encountered the structures and the entities that still are with and or in them. The archeologists have their theories and they date things and connect some things and base their judgments upon what they are able to relate to and scientific method has its uses but it doesn't explain it all. The Kiva is a portion of the home that these people used for rituals and other ceremony. The Kiva takes up a little less than half of the earliest structure of these people and the one I encountered was carbon dated to 575 AD using the burned charcoal from the fire pit. There were other Kivas but I use this one as an example as this information was given to me as I silently opened to the meanings of this Kiva. The sacred feminine was clearly a very big part of these dwellings. The floor plan was in the shape of a sitting woman. The upper parts of the woman's body (head and chest) was the Kiva. The lower part of her body was the fire pit and the living and sleeping areas. This floor plan was a direct imprinting into the soil, of an ancient figurine of the fertile female. This figurine crosses all cultures. She is our mother, the Sacred Feminine. I mentioned this to the Park Service person and she was surprised and had clearly not made this connection but found it a plausible assessment. These ancient " pit dwellings " had been unearthed. This is to say they had been buried by one culture and unearthed by a different one. The entities there were pleasant and informative though burdened by actions that had occurred to them at the time of transition and also at the covering up from the Sun by the buildings that housed these " exhibits. " Many of the cliff dwellings are still in their original condition of discovery. Most of them should be and are left alone. They are quite beautiful and I will post some photos as time and my skill on the computer permit. These places are connections that we share in this present time with another time period and another culture. They are not exhibits or specimens belonging to a lab. IMHO. They are " sacred sites " and I feel they should be treated by all with the respect and dignity that I see is demanded by those who wait and watch. They have much to teach those who can be still and listen. I and my friend learned much. - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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