Ego discussion

[Guest guest]

Hello, all!

I think we have a lot of ideas what ego is. Many seem to equate ego

with even things like vanity and " showiness " .

The definition I live with is more of a simplistic one.

You have the part of God in the Human body (I'll just call it " inner

self " ).

You have a thinking mind. That is a useful tool.

My definiton of ego then is not just the thinking mind, but " Letting

the thinking mind control you to the point of misery " . To avoid

this, use the mind as a tool, then drop it. Use it for daily task.

Then go back to the " inner self " for wisdom.

 

Can you be considered intelligent if you behave this way?

Apparently Einstein got his creativity this way (as apparently have

all of the " Masters " of any art).

 

I believe James was speaking of " trying to act spiritual " .

I think I've been there (maybe once or twice-LOL!!!).

In Christianity this is sometimes referred to as being a 'hypocrit'.

If it is an act, deep down inside you will be aware of it. Yes, it

is the ego at work.

 

Ego doesn't mean so much that you are 'bad'--'evil' or 'phony'...

it just is a way of 'being' that hurts a person in the long run.

A better way is to " just be " . Think with your whole body, refer to

the " inner self " .

 

So if your natural self is to be happy and outgoing----it will come

out.

Actually, when you ARE 'at one'---you CAN'T AVOID being happy and

outgoing! This is the natural state for all beings!

 

As always, describing the natural state, the state which cannot be

decribed with words (ie: The Tao that can be spoken is not the real

Tao...)can cause confusion.

When you stumble across the present state in your journey, your

entire being will know!

Then you may exclaim: " Damn! I knew this all along! "

......or something similar .---Because it is where you came

from...and where you are returning to!

OK...I've thought too much!

I'm going back to " no mind " ..>click!<.

:)

Blessings!

:)

SC

 

 

 

, " James "

<milliondegrees wrote:.....

>

> " Know exactly what u mean.

> I'm finding the best way is to just stop filling gaps and asking

> yourself who you really are, what u really want and what u really

> want to say, then when it feels " perfect " , then speak. Otherwise

> don't mess up your channels trying to say something else.

> OK I've got something significant to say now.

> Since my awakening, I've been overly conscious of my " ego " and

always

> try to subvert it, for example by not being charismatic or taking

the

> lead in conversation when I could. This made me kinda awkward 4 a

> while. I just realised tho, that a big heart and a big spirit dont

> equal a big ego. I was so obsessed with the idea of ego that I

> created one!! Because the ego is just the compromised, or dammed,

> pure self. So now I'm having big fun and loving it, and being

> hypersocial like I used to be! I mean that's what lead me to

> awakening in the first place, so now I'm letting it flow

again!........ "

Love u all - Japo x

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes Brian I appreciate entirely with where you see your spiritual path

in relation to its ego generated interactivity with the external

environment. I hope that makes sense to you? Currently I am

experiencing some profound lessons which extend beyond the written

expression. Lessons with their grounding in dualistic synchronicities.

I believe breakthroughs within my gross/primal/basic/raw aspects of

what we imagine the ego to be, have provided the opportunity to

experience these states.

It really is as chrism has stated on more than one occasion 'an

evolution of the ego'.

The Buddhists (and many others) believe we must work towards a

dissolution of ego. I used to wonder how this could be so, when (to my

perceptions) our ego was (for better or worse) a necessary aspect of

our selves. Of course it was my ego's defensiveness that stopped me

from seeing the whole picture- that dissolution is also the nirvana

they ultimately seek and in the inter em are many levels of

conditioning and evolution of this perceived separateness which in

actuality doesn't exist.

love and (en) light (ening), glen o.

 

>

> > We as humans are the only beings that chatter away

> and

> > we think that makes us " better " then the animals,

> I

> > find it more a set back.

> :-) actually animals communicate all the time, but

> not through verbal

> means... if you watch them, you find they are at

> least as active and

> responsive to the environment as any chattering

> monkey.

>

> > I don't even enjoy talking about my beliefs of

> spirit

> > , it's a personal inward journey and when spoken

> about

> > I feel it alsmost lessons it.

> likewise, this place aside (and Glen's list before

> it).

>

> -brian