Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 P.S. I hope you understand that I am not looking for a way out of doing what I pledged to do. I want very much to continue my 'K ritual'...the safeties, the Five Tibetans, the compression prayer, prayers to Shakti and God, meditation...I have come to love it and it elevates me. I don't want to do anything to compromise my path; I am prepared and ready for my awakening to start. If this pain is K-related, I can deal with it. If it is not, I don't want to hurt myself and derail my progress on my path. Please advise... --- Claudia Lambright <newtfoodbowl wrote: > Hello, Chrism, > I am having a back problem that I do NOT believe is > K-related, but I do believe it is related to the > practices. > > Monday night when I went to bed, I realized that I > had > a pain in my lower back just below the waist and to > the right of the spine. I had not noticed it > before. > I awoke at 3:30 with that spot hurting so much that > I > got up, put on a heat wrap, took 3 Ibuprophen and > went > back to bed. I was able to go back to sleep. > Yesterday, the pain was still there but like a dull > ache. > > So, I did the Five Tibetans yesterday afternoon, but > carefully. The 3rd and 5th Tibetans, in particular, > seem to concentrate on that part of the back, so I > did > them gently, not exaggerating the arch, and only 6 > instead of 7, which I had worked up to (this is my > second week of doing the Tibetans). Well, when I > woke > up this morning, now the pain has spread all across > my > lower back and up into my waistline and just above, > but it is concentrated in two spots: just below the > waist, to the right and left of the spine. > > My logical mind is telling me NOT to do the Tibetans > until this clears up. I do NOT think this is > related > to the K. So, I need your help, Chrism. What do > you > think this is and what do you advise that I do? > > I would not bother you if the pain were getting > better > instead of worse. I appreciate your time, as I know > you're very busy with your new job (congrats!). > > Claudia > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > http://autos./new_cars.html > ______________________________\ ____ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business. http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Claudia, The sequence of downward facing dog and upward facing dog in the 5 Tibetans can strain the lower back. A lot of people who do vinyasa yoga develop the same problem (myself included). Sel , Claudia Lambright <newtfoodbowl wrote: > > P.S. I hope you understand that I am not looking for > a way out of doing what I pledged to do. I want very > much to continue my 'K ritual'...the safeties, the > Five Tibetans, the compression prayer, prayers to > Shakti and God, meditation...I have come to love it > and it elevates me. I don't want to do anything to > compromise my path; I am prepared and ready for my > awakening to start. If this pain is K-related, I can > deal with it. If it is not, I don't want to hurt > myself and derail my progress on my path. Please > advise... > > > --- Claudia Lambright <newtfoodbowl wrote: > > > Hello, Chrism, > > I am having a back problem that I do NOT believe is > > K-related, but I do believe it is related to the > > practices. > > > > Monday night when I went to bed, I realized that I > > had > > a pain in my lower back just below the waist and to > > the right of the spine. I had not noticed it > > before. > > I awoke at 3:30 with that spot hurting so much that > > I > > got up, put on a heat wrap, took 3 Ibuprophen and > > went > > back to bed. I was able to go back to sleep. > > Yesterday, the pain was still there but like a dull > > ache. > > > > So, I did the Five Tibetans yesterday afternoon, but > > carefully. The 3rd and 5th Tibetans, in particular, > > seem to concentrate on that part of the back, so I > > did > > them gently, not exaggerating the arch, and only 6 > > instead of 7, which I had worked up to (this is my > > second week of doing the Tibetans). Well, when I > > woke > > up this morning, now the pain has spread all across > > my > > lower back and up into my waistline and just above, > > but it is concentrated in two spots: just below the > > waist, to the right and left of the spine. > > > > My logical mind is telling me NOT to do the Tibetans > > until this clears up. I do NOT think this is > > related > > to the K. So, I need your help, Chrism. What do > > you > > think this is and what do you advise that I do? > > > > I would not bother you if the pain were getting > > better > > instead of worse. I appreciate your time, as I know > > you're very busy with your new job (congrats!). > > > > Claudia > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Don't pick lemons. > > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > http://autos./new_cars.html > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Hi, Sel, I don't know what you mean by downward facing dog and upward facing dog...the document I have shows numbers...which numbers do you mean? What do you do when you strain your back from doing them? Thanks, Claudia --- selena230 <selena230 wrote: > Claudia, > > The sequence of downward facing dog and upward > facing dog in the 5 > Tibetans can strain the lower back. A lot of people > who do vinyasa > yoga develop the same problem (myself included). > > Sel > > > --- In > , > Claudia > Lambright <newtfoodbowl wrote: > > > > P.S. I hope you understand that I am not looking > for > > a way out of doing what I pledged to do. I want > very > > much to continue my 'K ritual'...the safeties, the > > Five Tibetans, the compression prayer, prayers to > > Shakti and God, meditation...I have come to love > it > > and it elevates me. I don't want to do anything > to > > compromise my path; I am prepared and ready for my > > awakening to start. If this pain is K-related, I > can > > deal with it. If it is not, I don't want to hurt > > myself and derail my progress on my path. Please > > advise... > > > > > > --- Claudia Lambright <newtfoodbowl wrote: > > > > > Hello, Chrism, > > > I am having a back problem that I do NOT believe > is > > > K-related, but I do believe it is related to the > > > practices. > > > > > > Monday night when I went to bed, I realized that > I > > > had > > > a pain in my lower back just below the waist and > to > > > the right of the spine. I had not noticed it > > > before. > > > I awoke at 3:30 with that spot hurting so much > that > > > I > > > got up, put on a heat wrap, took 3 Ibuprophen > and > > > went > > > back to bed. I was able to go back to sleep. > > > Yesterday, the pain was still there but like a > dull > > > ache. > > > > > > So, I did the Five Tibetans yesterday afternoon, > but > > > carefully. The 3rd and 5th Tibetans, in > particular, > > > seem to concentrate on that part of the back, so > I > > > did > > > them gently, not exaggerating the arch, and only > 6 > > > instead of 7, which I had worked up to (this is > my > > > second week of doing the Tibetans). Well, when > I > > > woke > > > up this morning, now the pain has spread all > across > > > my > > > lower back and up into my waistline and just > above, > > > but it is concentrated in two spots: just below > the > > > waist, to the right and left of the spine. > > > > > > My logical mind is telling me NOT to do the > Tibetans > > > until this clears up. I do NOT think this is > > > related > > > to the K. So, I need your help, Chrism. What > do > > > you > > > think this is and what do you advise that I do? > > > > > > I would not bother you if the pain were getting > > > better > > > instead of worse. I appreciate your time, as I > know > > > you're very busy with your new job (congrats!). > > > > > > Claudia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > Don't pick lemons. > > > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > http://autos./new_cars.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Get your own web address. > > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL > > > > > Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. http://mobile./mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 I am not sure about numbers (I rarely do the Tibetans myself). If you google downward facing dog and upward facing dog, you'll easily find pictures. Both of them are very popular yoga poses that, if done as a sequence, may cause back problems. Regarding what to do: warm packs, seeing a chiropractor, and suspending the practice for a while. When you resume it, just be very careful with the down and up dog sequence. Sel , Claudia Lambright <newtfoodbowl wrote: > > Hi, Sel, > I don't know what you mean by downward facing dog and > upward facing dog...the document I have shows > numbers...which numbers do you mean? What do you do > when you strain your back from doing them? > > Thanks, > Claudia > > --- selena230 <selena230 wrote: > > > Claudia, > > > > The sequence of downward facing dog and upward > > facing dog in the 5 > > Tibetans can strain the lower back. A lot of people > > who do vinyasa > > yoga develop the same problem (myself included). > > > > Sel > > > > > > --- In > > , > > Claudia > > Lambright <newtfoodbowl@> wrote: > > > > > > P.S. I hope you understand that I am not looking > > for > > > a way out of doing what I pledged to do. I want > > very > > > much to continue my 'K ritual'...the safeties, the > > > Five Tibetans, the compression prayer, prayers to > > > Shakti and God, meditation...I have come to love > > it > > > and it elevates me. I don't want to do anything > > to > > > compromise my path; I am prepared and ready for my > > > awakening to start. If this pain is K-related, I > > can > > > deal with it. If it is not, I don't want to hurt > > > myself and derail my progress on my path. Please > > > advise... > > > > > > > > > --- Claudia Lambright <newtfoodbowl@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, Chrism, > > > > I am having a back problem that I do NOT believe > > is > > > > K-related, but I do believe it is related to the > > > > practices. > > > > > > > > Monday night when I went to bed, I realized that > > I > > > > had > > > > a pain in my lower back just below the waist and > > to > > > > the right of the spine. I had not noticed it > > > > before. > > > > I awoke at 3:30 with that spot hurting so much > > that > > > > I > > > > got up, put on a heat wrap, took 3 Ibuprophen > > and > > > > went > > > > back to bed. I was able to go back to sleep. > > > > Yesterday, the pain was still there but like a > > dull > > > > ache. > > > > > > > > So, I did the Five Tibetans yesterday afternoon, > > but > > > > carefully. The 3rd and 5th Tibetans, in > > particular, > > > > seem to concentrate on that part of the back, so > > I > > > > did > > > > them gently, not exaggerating the arch, and only > > 6 > > > > instead of 7, which I had worked up to (this is > > my > > > > second week of doing the Tibetans). Well, when > > I > > > > woke > > > > up this morning, now the pain has spread all > > across > > > > my > > > > lower back and up into my waistline and just > > above, > > > > but it is concentrated in two spots: just below > > the > > > > waist, to the right and left of the spine. > > > > > > > > My logical mind is telling me NOT to do the > > Tibetans > > > > until this clears up. I do NOT think this is > > > > related > > > > to the K. So, I need your help, Chrism. What > > do > > > > you > > > > think this is and what do you advise that I do? > > > > > > > > I would not bother you if the pain were getting > > > > better > > > > instead of worse. I appreciate your time, as I > > know > > > > you're very busy with your new job (congrats!). > > > > > > > > Claudia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > > Don't pick lemons. > > > > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > > http://autos./new_cars.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > Get your own web address. > > > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > > http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. http://mobile./mail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 No worries Claudia!, Let us look at this and see what will unlock this issue. It is coming to me a s a K related pain though. This should teach you of the direct physical sensations and serve as an example of the Kundalini being a very real and definite presence in the body. Not an " airy fairy new age consciousness concept " Not that you were thinking of it that way but there are those that do. - It is real and has real effects. Pain being one of them. Lets see how this works for you. Do the spinal stretches. Go slow and be gentle! Pull your practice of the Tibetans back to the first three. Keep the tongue up and look up to the brow when you can do so for a time of however long you can hold that as you are early in your practice of it. Drink water. Eat some watermelon, EAT SOME WATERMELON, not shouting but sometimes people do not hear that or don't do it and continue to suffer. Please keep me apprised of your progress- Claudia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Hi Claudia The downward facing dog is when your hands and feet are on the floor and your rear is pointing at the ceiling with your head hanging limply. The upward facing dog is when your in sort of push up position with your back arced and looking up at the ceiling. I believe it is rite #5. Love and Light; Stephen O. Claudia Lambright wrote: > > Hi, Sel, > I don't know what you mean by downward facing dog and > upward facing dog...the document I have shows > numbers...which numbers do you mean? What do you do > when you strain your back from doing them? > > Thanks, > Claudia > > --- selena230 <selena230 <selena230%40>> wrote: > > > Claudia, > > > > The sequence of downward facing dog and upward > > facing dog in the 5 > > Tibetans can strain the lower back. A lot of people > > who do vinyasa > > yoga develop the same problem (myself included). > > > > Sel > > > > > > --- In > > > <%40>, > > Claudia > > Lambright <newtfoodbowl wrote: > > > > > > P.S. I hope you understand that I am not looking > > for > > > a way out of doing what I pledged to do. I want > > very > > > much to continue my 'K ritual'...the safeties, the > > > Five Tibetans, the compression prayer, prayers to > > > Shakti and God, meditation...I have come to love > > it > > > and it elevates me. I don't want to do anything > > to > > > compromise my path; I am prepared and ready for my > > > awakening to start. If this pain is K-related, I > > can > > > deal with it. If it is not, I don't want to hurt > > > myself and derail my progress on my path. Please > > > advise... > > > > > > > > > --- Claudia Lambright <newtfoodbowl wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, Chrism, > > > > I am having a back problem that I do NOT believe > > is > > > > K-related, but I do believe it is related to the > > > > practices. > > > > > > > > Monday night when I went to bed, I realized that > > I > > > > had > > > > a pain in my lower back just below the waist and > > to > > > > the right of the spine. I had not noticed it > > > > before. > > > > I awoke at 3:30 with that spot hurting so much > > that > > > > I > > > > got up, put on a heat wrap, took 3 Ibuprophen > > and > > > > went > > > > back to bed. I was able to go back to sleep. > > > > Yesterday, the pain was still there but like a > > dull > > > > ache. > > > > > > > > So, I did the Five Tibetans yesterday afternoon, > > but > > > > carefully. The 3rd and 5th Tibetans, in > > particular, > > > > seem to concentrate on that part of the back, so > > I > > > > did > > > > them gently, not exaggerating the arch, and only > > 6 > > > > instead of 7, which I had worked up to (this is > > my > > > > second week of doing the Tibetans). Well, when > > I > > > > woke > > > > up this morning, now the pain has spread all > > across > > > > my > > > > lower back and up into my waistline and just > > above, > > > > but it is concentrated in two spots: just below > > the > > > > waist, to the right and left of the spine. > > > > > > > > My logical mind is telling me NOT to do the > > Tibetans > > > > until this clears up. I do NOT think this is > > > > related > > > > to the K. So, I need your help, Chrism. What > > do > > > > you > > > > think this is and what do you advise that I do? > > > > > > > > I would not bother you if the pain were getting > > > > better > > > > instead of worse. I appreciate your time, as I > > know > > > > you're very busy with your new job (congrats!). > > > > > > > > Claudia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > Don't pick lemons. > > > > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > > http://autos./new_cars.html > <http://autos./new_cars.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Get your own web address. > > > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > > http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL > <http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL> > > > > > > > > > > > Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and always stay connected > to friends. http://mobile./mail <http://mobile./mail> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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