Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 There are those here in the group who wish to give gifts to me. There are those who have given gifts to me and I have not sought for them to do so. It is a difficulty for me to accept them. Yet the gifts that have come like the phone line and the artwork and the other gifts have come at times of need and my options were very limited in my ability to not accept them and so I did and am still grateful. But I must stree this is NOT required or expected. I do not want this group to feel that gifts must be given. It is not about gifts or aggrandizement or anything other than a person coming into the group and making discovery about their potentials. And perhaps acting upon those discoveries. So many groups can become infected with greed and the concept of getting what you pay for and other similarly aspected scenarios. I will not allow that to happen here. This is free to everyone who comes. Millionaire or street person I do not care, it is free. Kundalini doesnt care either, it will come regardless. And yet there are operating costs. This computer I use and the electricity to run it on and the broadband to send it on costs money. I have one light and live in a trailer, in someones backyard, no sewage or water or refrigeration. So my overhead is limited. When I began this group I was on my way to the mountains to find a cave and to go where I was directed to go from the awareness that expresses through me via the Kundalini Awakening. I sold almost everything and was living in a car for a time as I wrapped up my earthly affairs (by earthly I mean monetary attachments) and began to leave. Before I could do so the vision of service was introduced to me. I at first thought it was seminars so I put that together with help from friends. Then from that this group was created and I have felt my Kundalini grow very strong and have experienced waves and waves of intense joy and happiness from being gifted with the ability to help others inside this process. Kundalini came very strong during seminars as well. But the long distance aspects have really developed here on this small but growing free group. I have paid attention to the intuitions that have guided me with the morals required and the surrender required to have this group recieve productive results for those with in it. Not meaning to say that chrism has done all these things, just saying that I have had the honor of assisting. So perhaps I was indeed led to a cave, it just has wheels under it. Here is the picture. I have to work to eat and live and pay the limited bills that I have like all of us do. This takes some time away from being here with the group though I ponder upon the issues here as I do work. I am no different than you. As is a free service I can afford it. wants to collect information I only wish they could collect it all! And maybe use it! Gifts are not required or expected or sought. Everything here is free. if you wish to give to the group, that is acceptable. If you wish to give to me..... as I have allowed to it to occur, then I must accept it. I cannot deny that it has helped, but in no way is this to be considered a necessity or a requirement or a duty or that it will somehow purchase a step up the Kundalini ladder as it just doesnt work that way. These are my thoughts on this issue. - kaliese wrote: Good thought, Sarita. Please, Chrism, let those of us moved to do so be in service to you, continuing this list and all that you give to us. You know I wish to support you and to honor the tradition of giving gifts to ones teacher. In gratefulness, Sherri -- The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert Einstein -------------- Original message -------------- " Sarita " What a wonderful thing to do! Are there other things that the group needs? Perhaps if they are listed, those who have gifts in those particular areas will be able to help. Sarita , " chrism " wrote: > > One of the group members here has gifted this toll free line to the > group. She would like to remain anonymous. My thanks and gratitude go > to her. - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Thank you for your thoughts. And in these posts I am speaking only for myself and following my own inner guidance. And totally agree about the greed, etc. you mentioned in your post. I have been involved in this spiritual quest for my whole life and have gained much from many. When I attended one of your first your seminars (again intuition talking so loudly that I must be there that I changed many plans import to me to do it) and met you I was totally amazed at who you are and have watched as you offered the gift of yourself and your knowledge to us all in selfless service. Every other situation where I was offered spiritual information was, at the beginning, one I paid money for. Eventually I sometimes became an assistant, as in the Tantra groups I am now involved in, and no longer paid but was there to support, by doing service or whatever else my intuition suggested , those people whose work I resonated with. And am now led to give some sort of support to your work, by the K not by my thoughts, and know there is no pull from you to do anything like that. In fact, quite the opposite so I appreciate your surrender to this idea and know what a stretch it must be for you. I know that what you offer is free to all and without any strings. This is my process. I live for, have been roughly knocked about by and feed the fire of the K in whatever way I am led. I have the utmost respect for you and what you are doing, And feel that various communities are forming to allow we humans to evolve quickly and these communities are beginning to share resources to have that happen. And I want to be more a part of yours. In gratefulness, Sherri -- The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert Einstein -------------- Original message -------------- <> There are those here in the group who wish to give gifts to me. There are those who have given gifts to me and I have not sought for them to do so. It is a difficulty for me to accept them. Yet the gifts that have come like the phone line and the artwork and the other gifts have come at times of need and my options were very limited in my ability to not accept them and so I did and am still grateful. But I must stree this is NOT required or expected. I do not want this group to feel that gifts must be given. It is not about gifts or aggrandizement or anything other than a person coming into the group and making discovery about their potentials. And perhaps acting upon those discoveries. So many groups can become infected with greed and the concept of getting what you pay for and other similarly aspected scenarios. I will not allow that to happen here. This is free to everyone who comes. Millionaire or street person I do not care, it is free. Kundalini doesnt care either, it will come regardless. And yet there are operating costs. This computer I use and the electricity to run it on and the broadband to send it on costs money. I have one light and live in a trailer, in someones backyard, no sewage or water or refrigeration. So my overhead is limited. When I began this group I was on my way to the mountains to find a cave and to go where I was directed to go from the awareness that expresses through me via the Kundalini Awakening. I sold almost everything and was living in a car for a time as I wrapped up my earthly affairs (by earthly I mean monetary attachments) and began to leave. Before I could do so the vision of service was introduced to me. I at first thought it was seminars so I put that together with help from friends. Then from that this group was created and I have felt my Kundalini grow very strong and have experienced waves and waves of intense joy and happiness from being gifted with the ability to help others inside this process. Kundalini came very strong during seminars as well. But the long distance aspects have really developed here on this small but growing free group. I have paid attention to the intuitions that have guided me with the morals required and the surrender required to have this group recieve productive results for those with in it. Not meaning to say that chrism has done all these things, just saying that I have had the honor of assisting. So perhaps I was indeed led to a cave, it just has wheels under it. Here is the picture. I have to work to eat and live and pay the limited bills that I have like all of us do. This takes some time away from being here with the group though I ponder upon the issues here as I do work. I am no different than you. As is a free service I can afford it. wants to collect information I only wish they could collect it all! And maybe use it! Gifts are not required or expected or sought. Everything here is free. if you wish to give to the group, that is acceptable. If you wish to give to me..... as I have allowed to it to occur, then I must accept it. I cannot deny that it has helped, but in no way is this to be considered a necessity or a requirement or a duty or that it will somehow purchase a step up the Kundalini ladder as it just doesnt work that way. These are my thoughts on this issue. - kaliese wrote: Good thought, Sarita. Please, Chrism, let those of us moved to do so be in service to you, continuing this list and all that you give to us. You know I wish to support you and to honor the tradition of giving gifts to ones teacher. In gratefulness, Sherri -- The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert Einstein -------------- Original message -------------- " Sarita " What a wonderful thing to do! Are there other things that the group needs? Perhaps if they are listed, those who have gifts in those particular areas will be able to help. Sarita , " chrism " wrote: > > One of the group members here has gifted this toll free line to the > group. She would like to remain anonymous. My thanks and gratitude go > to her. - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 I appreciate your honesty and your address I was driving in my car the same day you posted your address. I thought to myself, I really would like his address to add to my holiday card list ;-) You have assisted me with so much, answering questions, directing my concerns and/or fears, and even removed an energy from me that shouldn't have been there. I thank you for all that you have done, and the group for being here as a family as well as offering wonderful feedback to each other. Sending gifts or personal items to anyone is therapeutic to me at least, it is heart healing and and an act of love. ~ Tomorrow is Earth Day, be conscience of her all day and offer your energy/love to her Blessings Lisa chrism wrote: > > There are those here in the group who wish to give gifts to me. There > are those who have given gifts to me and I have not sought for them to > do so. It is a difficulty for me to accept them. Yet the gifts that > have come like the phone line and the artwork and the other gifts have > come at times of need and my options were very limited in my ability > to not accept them and so I did and am still grateful. But I must > stree this is NOT required or expected. > > I do not want this group to feel that gifts must be given. It is not > about gifts or aggrandizement or anything other than a person coming > into the group and making discovery about their potentials. And > perhaps acting upon those discoveries. > > So many groups can become infected with greed and the concept of > getting what you pay for and other similarly aspected scenarios. I > will not allow that to happen here. This is free to everyone who > comes. Millionaire or street person I do not care, it is free. > Kundalini doesnt care either, it will come regardless. > > And yet there are operating costs. This computer I use and the > electricity to run it on and the broadband to send it on costs money. > I have one light and live in a trailer, in someones backyard, no > sewage or water or refrigeration. So my overhead is limited. > > When I began this group I was on my way to the mountains to find a > cave and to go where I was directed to go from the awareness that > expresses through me via the Kundalini Awakening. I sold almost > everything and was living in a car for a time as I wrapped up my > earthly affairs (by earthly I mean monetary attachments) and began to > leave. Before I could do so the vision of service was introduced to > me. I at first thought it was seminars so I put that together with > help from friends. Then from that this group was created and I have > felt my Kundalini grow very strong and have experienced waves and > waves of intense joy and happiness from being gifted with the ability > to help others inside this process. > > Kundalini came very strong during seminars as well. But the long > distance aspects have really developed here on this small but growing > free group. I have paid attention to the intuitions that have guided > me with the morals required and the surrender required to have this > group recieve productive results for those with in it. Not meaning to > say that chrism has done all these things, just saying that I have had > the honor of assisting. So perhaps I was indeed led to a cave, it just > has wheels under it. > > Here is the picture. I have to work to eat and live and pay the > limited bills that I have like all of us do. This takes some time away > from being here with the group though I ponder upon the issues here as > I do work. I am no different than you. As is a free service I > can afford it. wants to collect information I only wish they > could collect it all! And maybe use it! > > Gifts are not required or expected or sought. Everything here is free. > if you wish to give to the group, that is acceptable. If you wish to > give to me..... as I have allowed to it to occur, then I must accept > it. I cannot deny that it has helped, but in no way is this to be > considered a necessity or a requirement or a duty or that it will > somehow purchase a step up the Kundalini ladder as it just doesnt work > that way. These are my thoughts on this issue. - > > > > kaliese <kaliese%40comcast.net> wrote: > Good thought, Sarita. Please, Chrism, let those of us moved to do so > be in service to you, continuing this list and all that you give to > us. You know I wish to support you and to honor the tradition of > giving gifts to ones teacher. > > In gratefulness, > > Sherri > > -- > The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert > Einstein > > -------------- Original message -------------- > " Sarita " > What a wonderful thing to do! Are there other things that the group > needs? Perhaps if they are listed, those who have gifts in those > particular areas will be able to help. > > Sarita > > > <%40>, " chrism " > wrote: > > > > One of the group members here has gifted this toll free line to the > > group. She would like to remain anonymous. My thanks and gratitude > go > > to her. - chrism > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 That was quite an email chrism. It's good to know more about someone who is unconditionally helping us all (or providing a channel for help). Though I am intellectually familiar with the evils of worldly attachments on spiritual progress, I've felt that it's unfair for you to not get anything personally for your efforts - some material gain could enhance your ability to help others (by giving you more time to do just that). By the same token, one of the primary reasons that I was attracted to this site was that unlike all the others, you were not selling a " course " . I've always wondered why realizing more of one's spiritual self should cost money. The money isn't the issue, but the overwhelming greed of some individuals makes one cynical, and soon you are telling yourself that it's all fake, and that there really is no path. It would be silly for me to try to advise, you are obviously looking at life from a far different perspective than I've been able to accomplish so far, but you have my respect and blessings... Thanks... Paul > <> > > >Re: Re: Gifts >Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:53:51 -0700 (PDT) > >There are those here in the group who wish to give gifts to me. There are >those who have given gifts to me and I have not sought for them to do so. >It is a difficulty for me to accept them. Yet the gifts that have come like >the phone line and the artwork and the other gifts have come at times of >need and my options were very limited in my ability to not accept them and >so I did and am still grateful. But I must stree this is NOT required or >expected. > > I do not want this group to feel that gifts must be given. It is not >about gifts or aggrandizement or anything other than a person coming into >the group and making discovery about their potentials. And perhaps acting >upon those discoveries. > > So many groups can become infected with greed and the concept of getting >what you pay for and other similarly aspected scenarios. I will not allow >that to happen here. This is free to everyone who comes. Millionaire or >street person I do not care, it is free. Kundalini doesnt care either, it >will come regardless. > > And yet there are operating costs. This computer I use and the >electricity to run it on and the broadband to send it on costs money. I >have one light and live in a trailer, in someones backyard, no sewage or >water or refrigeration. So my overhead is limited. > > When I began this group I was on my way to the mountains to find a cave >and to go where I was directed to go from the awareness that expresses >through me via the Kundalini Awakening. I sold almost everything and was >living in a car for a time as I wrapped up my earthly affairs (by earthly I >mean monetary attachments) and began to leave. Before I could do so the >vision of service was introduced to me. I at first thought it was seminars >so I put that together with help from friends. Then from that this group >was created and I have felt my Kundalini grow very strong and have >experienced waves and waves of intense joy and happiness from being gifted >with the ability to help others inside this process. > > Kundalini came very strong during seminars as well. But the long >distance aspects have really developed here on this small but growing free >group. I have paid attention to the intuitions that have guided me with the >morals required and the surrender required to have this group recieve >productive results for those with in it. Not meaning to say that chrism has >done all these things, just saying that I have had the honor of assisting. >So perhaps I was indeed led to a cave, it just has wheels under it. > > Here is the picture. I have to work to eat and live and pay the limited >bills that I have like all of us do. This takes some time away from being >here with the group though I ponder upon the issues here as I do work. I am >no different than you. As is a free service I can afford it. >wants to collect information I only wish they could collect it all! And >maybe use it! > > Gifts are not required or expected or sought. Everything here is free. >if you wish to give to the group, that is acceptable. If you wish to give >to me..... as I have allowed to it to occur, then I must accept it. I >cannot deny that it has helped, but in no way is this to be considered a >necessity or a requirement or a duty or that it will somehow purchase a >step up the Kundalini ladder as it just doesnt work that way. These are my >thoughts on this issue. - > _______________ Interest Rates Fall Again! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-18679 & moid=7581 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 hahahaha...omg you really give my funny bone a workout! But, really...going from one extreme to the other doesn't really fit. BALANCE is what I'm hearing from Chrism. So wouldn't that apply in this area as well??? Hug Master C. Love, dhyana --- Stephen AKA Master Condrey <stephencondrey wrote: > I totally agree with Sarita! > What if people charged for salvation! > That would be like being in church and the priest > asking for money > all the time! > WOOPS! > > SC > > --- In > , > " Sarita " > <sarita1969 wrote: > > > > EDITED FOR SPACE> I agree with Paul, spiritual > pursuits should be > open to all and not depend on if you can " afford " > it. Many of us > could not pay to be on this path, I know I couldn't > right now. What > a loss to the world that would be! > > > > Thank you for always being there for > everyone and helping us > to > > be in service as well. > > > > Just my 10 cents! > > > > Sarita > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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