Where I am... and Sarita

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Chrism, thanks so much for your frank comment. I don't have a problem

with this being listed as " New Age " . I know K's lineage, mostly, and,

besides labels don't matter one way or another to me.

 

I do want this but it's not just about me and I have to consider

that. I also have a 5 y/o daughter. I need to figure out if I can do

this for myself and keep my family happy also, knowing I won't have a

supportive husband. He won't accept this, I can tell you from

previous conversations. So what do I do, let it come anyway? I'm

asking rhetorical questions here. I have no intention of stopping it.

I know, I have to sort this out myself.

 

Sarita, thank you for your comments. You are always so level headed

and I do relate to you. I have stuff to think about, obviously. I

really want to continue with this if I can.

 

Thank you both. You are the best.

 

Valarie

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Hello Valarie and everyone,

> Nice to read of your results Valarie. You are indeed

a

> candidate if you wish to be.

>

> I know that I put this group in the " New Age " section of . I

was

> going to go into the health area but didn't though it is as much

that

> as it is a spiritual development. In the early stages it is more so

> at times a physical experience. Attaching the " New Age " descriptor

to

> the Kundalini is perhaps not quite accurate but they didn't offer

me

> an " Old Age " option! Kundalini is very, very, ancient. As old as

> humanity itself. I only say this to help you with the issues that

may

> come up between you and your husband.

>

> Kundalini isn't typically soft and fuzzy. Yes it can be very joyous

> and blissful and wondrous and beautiful. It can also be painful, if

> the blocks are not cleared and the forgiveness' not done or any of

a

> number of scenarios that can arise to make the journey more

> challenging.

>

> Kundalini can whip your body around like you are a rag doll.

Really.

>

> These are called Kriyas and they come whether you like it or not

and

> if a loved one sees this occur he may well just lock you up in the

> psyche ward and give the Md's the OK for severe anti convulsive

> medications. Kriyas can feel wonderful! But they can appear to an

> onlooker or a loved one as grossly painful and very frightening. So

> consider this. Not all folks experience the Kriyas though many do

in

> various degrees. This is just one aspect.

>

> If you are not willing to go with what Kundalini - not me - but

what

> Kundalini says to consume or not consume, practice or not practice

> you are in for a rough and possibly painful experience.

>

> " Hell hath no fury than that of a woman scorned! "

>

> Kundalini is the ultimate femininity. She will torture you into

> submission or a chemical prison or both if you go against her

wishes.

> She is a very strong and definite power. Not someone you want to

> scorn! This is where the " Kali " aspect of Kundalini comes to the

fore.

>

> She will love you when you do what you are told, and flower your

path

> with joy and beauty. Or she will wrack your body with a painful

> savagery from the inside out that no medication can assuage.

>

> This is a tight path. It is one of the strongest paths available to

a

> human being. If not " the " strongest. So just some things to

consider.

>

> If life is good and love is flowing and there are few if any

> hardships that require you to sacrifice any part of the beautiful

> world you share with your husband. Perhaps this peace and love is

> worth enjoying. That is also a precious gift.

>

> I ask people to tell their spouses. I ask people to be honest with

> them as much as possible. This includes family, friends, etc. Not

> employers or doctors! Some here have similar scenarios with their

> spouse. They receive a low and slow dose from the Shaktipat until I

> am reasonably sure that they are at least beginning a communication

> about the Kundalini. I do this for the safety of that relationship.

> They sometimes wonder why the going is slow.

>

> Now if you follow the guidelines in the safeties and really,

> sincerely practice them you will most likely have a very smooth and

> wonderful experience. That's why they are there. But if your " ego "

> allows you to stray from that path or the path that " your "

Kundalini

> prescribes for you to follow, in a consistent measure to be

> determined by the Kundalini, problems may ensue.

>

> This is just FYI. -

>

>

>

>

Please consider this before you go further. Kundalini is as much a

> physical process as it is a spiritual one.

, " Sarita "

> <sarita1969@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Valarie! Glad to hear that things are happening for you. I

> can't

> > answer about the diet thing, that would be Chrism's dept. I am

> > having trouble myself in that area, lol. But I am following my

> body

> > messages, which sometimes tell me to eat red meat. I have never

> been

> > a big red meat eater (mostly chicken/turkey), but have had more

> since

> > the K than I have in months. I guess that it is needed right now

> in

> > my journey. Some days I am ravenous and eat like a man and other

> > days I barely eat at all. I am just rolling with it.

> >

> > I just wanted to bring up something to you. I don't know if this

> is

> > the case for you, but have you considered that the situation with

> > your husband is a " challenge " or " test " ? It can be very

difficult

> to

> > deal with a naysayer when trying to elevate yourself. My ex

> husband

> > made any spiritual pursuits very difficult for me, which is why

my

> > progress was derailed for several years. I guess I have been

> making

> > up for lost time this year, lol.

> >

> > I will keep you in my prayers. You never know, something may

> happen

> > to change your husband's mind about " new agers " and

spirituality.

> > The universe works in mysterious ways...

> >

> > Sarita

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " vjvousden "

> > <vjvousden@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I haven't checked in for a bit so thought I would. Nice to read

> how

> > > everyone is doing. I can relate to so many of you. I guess I

love

> > you

> > > all, you are family now!

> > >

> > > I just did the Tibetans and some compression prayer and I felt

> like

> > a

> > > radiator on high heat (not really sweating but HOT!) and now my

> > back

> > > is

> > > prickling like crazy! Ringing in my ears now, too.

> > >

> > > I haven't had the headache now for a bit. Thank goodness. And

my

> > > dreams

> > > seem to be returning but they have a different feel...not sure

> how

> > to

> > > describe that. They have always been in color, epic in length

and

> > > greatly detailed. Still are but there is an element of reunion

or

> > > remembering in them. I'm visiting old friends and having the

> > happiest

> > > reunions. Old college friends, co-workers at the hospital I

> worked

> > in

> > > in my 20's that were my friends also. I've visited my

> grandparents

> > at

> > > their house that I remember fondly from childhood (both now

dead

> > and

> > > house sold). Last night was a lovely dream of a reunion with my

> > first

> > > true love, someone I dream of often but this one felt like it

had

> > > some

> > > resolution to it, things were OK finally. And I saw beautiful

> > > Northern

> > > Lights in the SW sky!!! It was on the news and everyone was

> looking

> > > up

> > > at the sky watching this amazing phenomenon. Some were even

> > bursting

> > > like fireworks. So some amazing dream scenarios.

> > >

> > > Anyway, I have to admit that some days, it is difficult to fit

in

> > all

> > > the Tibetans. I'll do one here, then later get a chanct to do

> > > another.

> > > On rare occaisions, I get to do all 5 one right after another

all

> > > together. I hope it's OK to do them throughout the day...better

> > than

> > > not at all? And I'm having trouble giving up some of the things

> for

> > > the

> > > safeties. I'm a huge coffee lover. I have gone from 2 cups a

day

> to

> > > just the weekends (maybe 1 in the week) and most of those are

now

> > > decaf. And the second thing is giving up wine! My husband and I

> are

> > > both " foodies " , we love the taste, smell, color, texture of

> foods,

> > > home-

> > > cooked, gourmet, ethnic, some of it grown by myself in my

organic

> > > garden. And to go along with that, we are pretty much wine

> > > afficiendos,

> > > my husband more than me. And on the weekend, our little ritual

is

> a

> > > glass of good wine with supper, 2 maybe 3 nights a week. I am

> > finding

> > > that extremely difficult to give up. It's something we both

enjoy

> > so

> > > much. I don't do strong alcohol, not a spirits or beer drinker.

> > Just

> > > wine. So, *sigh* that is what I'm having trouble with. And my

> > husband

> > > will not be supportive of this change in my life style. He is

not

> > > supportive, though not aggressive (so far) in my spiritual

> search.

> > He

> > > thinks all this stuff (metaphysical study in general) is

quackery

> > and

> > > for weak-minded people so he frowns on mhy pursuit of it. So I

> keep

> > > it

> > > to myself. The diet isn't an issue. We eat red meat rarely (by

> > which

> > > I

> > > mean not often...haha!) and 2 maybe more meals a week might be

> > > vegetarian (we love Indian and Middle Eastern dishes which

often

> > are

> > > veggies and rice). But the meditations and giving up caffeine

and

> > > wine

> > > will send up red flags I'm afraid and I don't want to harm our

> > > relationship. It has been wonderful. Now I feel like I'm about

to

> > > rock

> > > the boat, especially knowing how he feels about " air-headed New-

> > > agers " .

> > > Which I have to say I am one of...either that or an old hippie!

> > >

> > > So I'm in a funny position. Nevertheless, I am having results.

> > Maybe

> > > only minor, in the scheme of things but I'm happy to see things

> > > happening in myself.

> > >

> > > Anyway, that's my update and confessional. I needed to get that

> off

> > > my

> > > chest. Ha...Sarita, I hear you saying that explains some

things.

> > You

> > > are right. It was there under the surface all along. Still,

it's

> my

> > > thing to work out and if possible I will keep my family happy

as

> > well

> > > as myself.

> > >

> > > Hugs to all. I sure appreciate all of you.

> > > Valarie

> > >

> >

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