Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 No worries my friend. I needed to make that known not only to you but to others in similar situations. I will withdraw the Scatterfield as of this moment. This is only temporary and can give you some space with out as much phenomena. Though that may still occur to some degree as you do or do not initiate stimulus. Take a breath and gather your feelings. There is no rush. A careful considered move is often a good move. Please ask any questions that come to mind at any time. - blessings Valarie and a still quiet place behind your eyes - chrism , " vjvousden " <vjvousden wrote: > > Chrism, thanks so much for your frank comment. I don't have a problem > with this being listed as " New Age " . I know K's lineage, mostly, and, > besides labels don't matter one way or another to me. > > I do want this but it's not just about me and I have to consider > that. I also have a 5 y/o daughter. I need to figure out if I can do > this for myself and keep my family happy also, knowing I won't have a > supportive husband. He won't accept this, I can tell you from > previous conversations. So what do I do, let it come anyway? I'm > asking rhetorical questions here. I have no intention of stopping it. > I know, I have to sort this out myself. > > Sarita, thank you for your comments. You are always so level headed > and I do relate to you. I have stuff to think about, obviously. I > really want to continue with this if I can. > > Thank you both. You are the best. > > Valarie > , " chrism " > <@> wrote: > > > > Hello Valarie and everyone, > > Nice to read of your results Valarie. You are indeed > a > > candidate if you wish to be. > > > > I know that I put this group in the " New Age " section of . I > was > > going to go into the health area but didn't though it is as much > that > > as it is a spiritual development. In the early stages it is more so > > at times a physical experience. Attaching the " New Age " descriptor > to > > the Kundalini is perhaps not quite accurate but they didn't offer > me > > an " Old Age " option! Kundalini is very, very, ancient. As old as > > humanity itself. I only say this to help you with the issues that > may > > come up between you and your husband. > > > > Kundalini isn't typically soft and fuzzy. Yes it can be very joyous > > and blissful and wondrous and beautiful. It can also be painful, if > > the blocks are not cleared and the forgiveness' not done or any of > a > > number of scenarios that can arise to make the journey more > > challenging. > > > > Kundalini can whip your body around like you are a rag doll. > Really. > > > > These are called Kriyas and they come whether you like it or not > and > > if a loved one sees this occur he may well just lock you up in the > > psyche ward and give the Md's the OK for severe anti convulsive > > medications. Kriyas can feel wonderful! But they can appear to an > > onlooker or a loved one as grossly painful and very frightening. So > > consider this. Not all folks experience the Kriyas though many do > in > > various degrees. This is just one aspect. > > > > If you are not willing to go with what Kundalini - not me - but > what > > Kundalini says to consume or not consume, practice or not practice > > you are in for a rough and possibly painful experience. > > > > " Hell hath no fury than that of a woman scorned! " > > > > Kundalini is the ultimate femininity. She will torture you into > > submission or a chemical prison or both if you go against her > wishes. > > She is a very strong and definite power. Not someone you want to > > scorn! This is where the " Kali " aspect of Kundalini comes to the > fore. > > > > She will love you when you do what you are told, and flower your > path > > with joy and beauty. Or she will wrack your body with a painful > > savagery from the inside out that no medication can assuage. > > > > This is a tight path. It is one of the strongest paths available to > a > > human being. If not " the " strongest. So just some things to > consider. > > > > If life is good and love is flowing and there are few if any > > hardships that require you to sacrifice any part of the beautiful > > world you share with your husband. Perhaps this peace and love is > > worth enjoying. That is also a precious gift. > > > > I ask people to tell their spouses. I ask people to be honest with > > them as much as possible. This includes family, friends, etc. Not > > employers or doctors! Some here have similar scenarios with their > > spouse. They receive a low and slow dose from the Shaktipat until I > > am reasonably sure that they are at least beginning a communication > > about the Kundalini. I do this for the safety of that relationship. > > They sometimes wonder why the going is slow. > > > > Now if you follow the guidelines in the safeties and really, > > sincerely practice them you will most likely have a very smooth and > > wonderful experience. That's why they are there. But if your " ego " > > allows you to stray from that path or the path that " your " > Kundalini > > prescribes for you to follow, in a consistent measure to be > > determined by the Kundalini, problems may ensue. > > > > This is just FYI. - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please consider this before you go further. Kundalini is as much a > > physical process as it is a spiritual one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Sarita " > > <sarita1969@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Valarie! Glad to hear that things are happening for you. I > > can't > > > answer about the diet thing, that would be Chrism's dept. I am > > > having trouble myself in that area, lol. But I am following my > > body > > > messages, which sometimes tell me to eat red meat. I have never > > been > > > a big red meat eater (mostly chicken/turkey), but have had more > > since > > > the K than I have in months. I guess that it is needed right now > > in > > > my journey. Some days I am ravenous and eat like a man and other > > > days I barely eat at all. I am just rolling with it. > > > > > > I just wanted to bring up something to you. I don't know if this > > is > > > the case for you, but have you considered that the situation with > > > your husband is a " challenge " or " test " ? It can be very > difficult > > to > > > deal with a naysayer when trying to elevate yourself. My ex > > husband > > > made any spiritual pursuits very difficult for me, which is why > my > > > progress was derailed for several years. I guess I have been > > making > > > up for lost time this year, lol. > > > > > > I will keep you in my prayers. You never know, something may > > happen > > > to change your husband's mind about " new agers " and > spirituality. > > > The universe works in mysterious ways... > > > > > > Sarita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " vjvousden " > > > <vjvousden@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I haven't checked in for a bit so thought I would. Nice to read > > how > > > > everyone is doing. I can relate to so many of you. I guess I > love > > > you > > > > all, you are family now! > > > > > > > > I just did the Tibetans and some compression prayer and I felt > > like > > > a > > > > radiator on high heat (not really sweating but HOT!) and now my > > > back > > > > is > > > > prickling like crazy! Ringing in my ears now, too. > > > > > > > > I haven't had the headache now for a bit. Thank goodness. And > my > > > > dreams > > > > seem to be returning but they have a different feel...not sure > > how > > > to > > > > describe that. They have always been in color, epic in length > and > > > > greatly detailed. Still are but there is an element of reunion > or > > > > remembering in them. I'm visiting old friends and having the > > > happiest > > > > reunions. Old college friends, co-workers at the hospital I > > worked > > > in > > > > in my 20's that were my friends also. I've visited my > > grandparents > > > at > > > > their house that I remember fondly from childhood (both now > dead > > > and > > > > house sold). Last night was a lovely dream of a reunion with my > > > first > > > > true love, someone I dream of often but this one felt like it > had > > > > some > > > > resolution to it, things were OK finally. And I saw beautiful > > > > Northern > > > > Lights in the SW sky!!! It was on the news and everyone was > > looking > > > > up > > > > at the sky watching this amazing phenomenon. Some were even > > > bursting > > > > like fireworks. So some amazing dream scenarios. > > > > > > > > Anyway, I have to admit that some days, it is difficult to fit > in > > > all > > > > the Tibetans. I'll do one here, then later get a chanct to do > > > > another. > > > > On rare occaisions, I get to do all 5 one right after another > all > > > > together. I hope it's OK to do them throughout the day...better > > > than > > > > not at all? And I'm having trouble giving up some of the things > > for > > > > the > > > > safeties. I'm a huge coffee lover. I have gone from 2 cups a > day > > to > > > > just the weekends (maybe 1 in the week) and most of those are > now > > > > decaf. And the second thing is giving up wine! My husband and I > > are > > > > both " foodies " , we love the taste, smell, color, texture of > > foods, > > > > home- > > > > cooked, gourmet, ethnic, some of it grown by myself in my > organic > > > > garden. And to go along with that, we are pretty much wine > > > > afficiendos, > > > > my husband more than me. And on the weekend, our little ritual > is > > a > > > > glass of good wine with supper, 2 maybe 3 nights a week. I am > > > finding > > > > that extremely difficult to give up. It's something we both > enjoy > > > so > > > > much. I don't do strong alcohol, not a spirits or beer drinker. > > > Just > > > > wine. So, *sigh* that is what I'm having trouble with. And my > > > husband > > > > will not be supportive of this change in my life style. He is > not > > > > supportive, though not aggressive (so far) in my spiritual > > search. > > > He > > > > thinks all this stuff (metaphysical study in general) is > quackery > > > and > > > > for weak-minded people so he frowns on mhy pursuit of it. So I > > keep > > > > it > > > > to myself. The diet isn't an issue. We eat red meat rarely (by > > > which > > > > I > > > > mean not often...haha!) and 2 maybe more meals a week might be > > > > vegetarian (we love Indian and Middle Eastern dishes which > often > > > are > > > > veggies and rice). But the meditations and giving up caffeine > and > > > > wine > > > > will send up red flags I'm afraid and I don't want to harm our > > > > relationship. It has been wonderful. Now I feel like I'm about > to > > > > rock > > > > the boat, especially knowing how he feels about " air-headed New- > > > > agers " . > > > > Which I have to say I am one of...either that or an old hippie! > > > > > > > > So I'm in a funny position. Nevertheless, I am having results. > > > Maybe > > > > only minor, in the scheme of things but I'm happy to see things > > > > happening in myself. > > > > > > > > Anyway, that's my update and confessional. I needed to get that > > off > > > > my > > > > chest. Ha...Sarita, I hear you saying that explains some > things. > > > You > > > > are right. It was there under the surface all along. Still, > it's > > my > > > > thing to work out and if possible I will keep my family happy > as > > > well > > > > as myself. > > > > > > > > Hugs to all. I sure appreciate all of you. > > > > Valarie > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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