I don't understand hand positions. They make their own sometimes

[Guest guest]

Hi R! Don't recognize you. If you're new, then

welcome!

I don't think I would plan where the energy is to go.

The safeties are just that...to be safe until the

energy establishes its own path. What I see happening

here is learning to surrender to the energy, not

direct it. That may be what you're getting at. Love,

dhyana

--- soreadalready <soreadalready wrote:

 

> And sometimes my arms go into other places.

>

> But you guys are planning your hand positions

> instead.

>

> don't try that what I'm about to explain as it is

> not according to

> your group safety you agreed to in the guideline.

> When my hand was

> open or holding my other hand my shoulders ached and

> energy moved

> through them.

> When my hand left hand is open not closed and not

> touching any part

> of my body it tingles or goes numb and my shoulder

> aches and my face

> is covered with feelings.

>

> you guys have had goals of where the energy is to

> go? Why not just

> trust it to go and heal or help and then go be of

> servic somewhere

> carrying that or changed by that energy? trusting.

> sufficient each

> day. instead of planning where it's going to go?

>

> Finaly question some people have different end

> objectives and talk

> about wanting the energy to go out through the top

> instead of loop

> down around the front or something into the heart?

> What is that about

> do you think people need to plan something?

>

>

> Love abound & surround you now & always.- R

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi this is Ruth Williams. My screen name is soreadalready. I thought the browser

automatically showed my name but the screen name showed up across it instead.

Sorry about that. -Ruth

 

novalees <Novalees wrote: Hi R! Don't recognize you. If

you're new, then

welcome!

I don't think I would plan where the energy is to go.

The safeties are just that...to be safe until the

energy establishes its own path. What I see happening

here is learning to surrender to the energy, not

direct it. That may be what you're getting at. Love,

dhyana

--- soreadalready <soreadalready wrote:

 

> And sometimes my arms go into other places.

>

> But you guys are planning your hand positions

> instead.

>

> don't try that what I'm about to explain as it is

> not according to

> your group safety you agreed to in the guideline.

> When my hand was

> open or holding my other hand my shoulders ached and

> energy moved

> through them.

> When my hand left hand is open not closed and not

> touching any part

> of my body it tingles or goes numb and my shoulder

> aches and my face

> is covered with feelings.

>

> you guys have had goals of where the energy is to

> go? Why not just

> trust it to go and heal or help and then go be of

> servic somewhere

> carrying that or changed by that energy? trusting.

> sufficient each

> day. instead of planning where it's going to go?

>

> Finaly question some people have different end

> objectives and talk

> about wanting the energy to go out through the top

> instead of loop

> down around the front or something into the heart?

> What is that about

> do you think people need to plan something?

>

>

> Love abound & surround you now & always.- R

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello R,

Kundalini itself is the source for much of what is in the

safeties. And yes, you are correct imho, in what you write about

trusting the energy and allowing and surrendering to its process

with in you.

 

As far as the hand positions are concerned, yes it is well and good

to follow your intuitions about those placements. Kundalini will

direct you as well. As far as direction of the energy in its opening

aspect of rising or awakening, I hold to the bottom to top approach

as this has been proven, over the centuries, to facilitate as safe

and sane a route as we can expect and chart by virtue of the ancient

Hindu and ancient Daoism and ancient Tibetan with Christian and

Egyptian and Pagan or Druidic influences.

 

Certain routes can be a very difficult experience for many and i do

not assert that what is in the safeties is a must for every single

person. We are all different and will have different rates and

symptoms and phenomenon with the Kundalini. But I choose these areas

of safety that have been proven over time and with in my own

experience.

 

These methods have been taken from many different traditions and

cultures and I take alot of heat for that, but (i) and (I) feel

strongly that it is in combinations of technique and intent and

surrender that the most beneficial response to an initial Kundalini

event can be experienced.

 

Always the freedom of choice is honored here R. Anyone is free to do

as they wish with regards to their own experience. As long as it

doesn't endanger or fall outside the guideline of what sets

down as appropriate. IE the sexual and other aspects of the tantric

path need to be discussed on another sister list.

 

You are obviously enjoying an experience and this is good and you

have your own techniques that work for you and this is also good. We

all eventually come to the place where we find what works best for

ourselves. Nice to read you have come to that place with in yourself

and your experience.

 

I am inside the process of working with many. In some ways I am with

them as they process. For the sake of responsibility and love and

service I must allow them to do as they wish and I do. When it comes

to helping or advising or Shaktipat I do have requirements that I

feel will allow for a safe and sane experience and the " safeties "

are a part of those requirements but I do not force them upon a

person such as yourself or anyone who doesn't wish to partake of

them.

 

I offer them as an invitation to a very high Path of experience

inside the Kundalini. A path that I walk. There are many paths and I

do not compete them. I just walk this one and advise those with an

interest to do so to walk it as well. The safeties are part of this

path. -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kundalini-Awakening-Systems-

1 , " soreadalready " <soreadalready wrote:

>

> And sometimes my arms go into other places.

>

> But you guys are planning your hand positions instead.

>

> don't try that what I'm about to explain as it is not according to

> your group safety you agreed to in the guideline. When my hand

was

> open or holding my other hand my shoulders ached and energy moved

> through them.

> When my hand left hand is open not closed and not touching any

part

> of my body it tingles or goes numb and my shoulder aches and my

face

> is covered with feelings.

>

> you guys have had goals of where the energy is to go? Why not just

> trust it to go and heal or help and then go be of servic somewhere

> carrying that or changed by that energy? trusting. sufficient each

> day. instead of planning where it's going to go?

>

> Finaly question some people have different end objectives and talk

> about wanting the energy to go out through the top instead of loop

> down around the front or something into the heart? What is that

about

> do you think people need to plan something?

>

>

> Love abound & surround you now & always.- R

>