Dilemma

[Guest guest]

Hey all,

 

Following in Claudia's footsteps, I would like to be honest about something that

has been a

conflict lately.

 

Ever since my awakening in November of 06 I have been trying my best to

surrender to and

listen to the K. As you know, I quit smoking at the end of February and I am so

much a non-

smoker now I can't even be around second hand. I eat mostly organic now, my diet

is as

balanced as I can manage. I take a multivitamin, omega supplement, I drink lots

of water and

lemon water and ginger tea. But occasionally, I still want to party. I don't

mean drugs, as I

would not touch them with a ten-thousand foot pole now. I mean drinking. It is

summer in

Montreal, there is a lot going on, I have come out of a winter of chaos, painful

growth and

discontent - and I am 23 and K awakened. It is confusing, and conflicting. I

don't want to

damage my K, I love my K. But I am 23, and occasionally I still like to drink. I

feel like I

basically have to choose one or the other - is that ridiculous?

 

Any opinions are welcome, thank you for reading my rant.

 

Love,

Kerry

[Guest guest]

Sweet Kerry,

Everything in balance. I personally see no harm in drinking moderately. There's

no need to get fall down drunk. In my opinion, once in a while light drinking

should be fine. I drink on occasion and I've never had any negative effects, but

that my own feedback. Remember, wine is from fruit and Vodka from potatoes ;-)

cheers

 

---- kiwibird_222 <sktimms wrote:

> Hey all,

>

> Following in Claudia's footsteps, I would like to be honest about something

that has been a

> conflict lately.

>

> Ever since my awakening in November of 06 I have been trying my best to

surrender to and

> listen to the K. As you know, I quit smoking at the end of February and I am

so much a non-

> smoker now I can't even be around second hand. I eat mostly organic now, my

diet is as

> balanced as I can manage. I take a multivitamin, omega supplement, I drink

lots of water and

> lemon water and ginger tea. But occasionally, I still want to party. I don't

mean drugs, as I

> would not touch them with a ten-thousand foot pole now. I mean drinking. It is

summer in

> Montreal, there is a lot going on, I have come out of a winter of chaos,

painful growth and

> discontent - and I am 23 and K awakened. It is confusing, and conflicting. I

don't want to

> damage my K, I love my K. But I am 23, and occasionally I still like to drink.

I feel like I

> basically have to choose one or the other - is that ridiculous?

>

> Any opinions are welcome, thank you for reading my rant.

>

> Love,

> Kerry

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kerry,

 

What will the drink give you that the K hasn't? Is this just peer

pressure? Must you drink to have fun with your friends? With the K

aren't you putting out a fire with gasoline? Just a few things to

think about. I have partied in the past and nothing has compared to

the K for me.

B

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " kiwibird_222 "

<sktimms wrote:

>

> Hey all,

>

> Following in Claudia's footsteps, I would like to be honest about

something that has been a

> conflict lately.

>

> Ever since my awakening in November of 06 I have been trying my

best to surrender to and

> listen to the K. As you know, I quit smoking at the end of

February and I am so much a non-

> smoker now I can't even be around second hand. I eat mostly

organic now, my diet is as

> balanced as I can manage. I take a multivitamin, omega supplement,

I drink lots of water and

> lemon water and ginger tea. But occasionally, I still want to

party. I don't mean drugs, as I

> would not touch them with a ten-thousand foot pole now. I mean

drinking. It is summer in

> Montreal, there is a lot going on, I have come out of a winter of

chaos, painful growth and

> discontent - and I am 23 and K awakened. It is confusing, and

conflicting. I don't want to

> damage my K, I love my K. But I am 23, and occasionally I still

like to drink. I feel like I

> basically have to choose one or the other - is that ridiculous?

>

> Any opinions are welcome, thank you for reading my rant.

>

> Love,

> Kerry

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Kerry,

I do not suggest alcohol in the " partying sense " for

anyone involved in a Kundalini awakening. These are sensitive times

for a person with Kundalini as the body is being changed on many

different platforms of consciousness and beingness. You may also

wish to remember what brought you into the Kundalini to begin with.

 

Yet this is your body and your life and your right to choose how you

live is your right! And I encourage you to find the way that suits

you best.

 

Being twenty three with the Kundalini can have its advantages.

 

Celebration is good and I feel you have much to celebrate.

Celebration in the ways and activities of our culture can often

involve drinking to the point of stupefaction. Possibly to the point

of opening to an invasive consciousness by doing so. Or being around

those that are. I do not advise any type or kind of activity that

will open a person this way.

 

I do not wish to scare anyone. I have researched the phenomena of

SHC or Spontaneous Human Combustion. Many of the instances were

described to be in attendance with the intake of alcohol. A blue

flame rising from the center of the body, consuming the body. There

is no proof or evidence of this as far as I can tell. But I have a

suspicion of a connection. Just an FYI (maybe)

 

As Stephen O and Leysha have mentioned, moderation and balance are

qualities to strive for. Do your best. You may initiate a painful

experience so be advised. And also perhaps look to what it is you

get from drinking alcohol. Why is that important? Why is water or

juice not acceptable at social functions? Is it the " high " that is

received? The " buzz " ? heh! Be aware of your reasons and enjoy the

path you choose -

[Guest guest]

Hi Kerry

 

I believe that a couple of beers or a glass of wine won't do any harm. I

don't drink very often but if I drink some beer or once in a while drink

some wine with my mom. As long as I don't go overboard there are no

adverse effects.

 

Love and Peace;

Stephen O.

PS: Even if I only have one drink I won't drive.

 

 

 

kiwibird_222 wrote:

>

> Hey all,

>

> Following in Claudia's footsteps, I would like to be honest about

> something that has been a

> conflict lately.

>

> Ever since my awakening in November of 06 I have been trying my best

> to surrender to and

> listen to the K. As you know, I quit smoking at the end of February

> and I am so much a non-

> smoker now I can't even be around second hand. I eat mostly organic

> now, my diet is as

> balanced as I can manage. I take a multivitamin, omega supplement, I

> drink lots of water and

> lemon water and ginger tea. But occasionally, I still want to party. I

> don't mean drugs, as I

> would not touch them with a ten-thousand foot pole now. I mean

> drinking. It is summer in

> Montreal, there is a lot going on, I have come out of a winter of

> chaos, painful growth and

> discontent - and I am 23 and K awakened. It is confusing, and

> conflicting. I don't want to

> damage my K, I love my K. But I am 23, and occasionally I still like

> to drink. I feel like I

> basically have to choose one or the other - is that ridiculous?

>

> Any opinions are welcome, thank you for reading my rant.

>

> Love,

> Kerry

>

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hey Kerry, I hope lots of people jump on this thread. I'm curious

about it too...

 

For me I don't force myself to be perfect, but constantly strive to

refine the diet, alcohol and caffeine intake inparticular.

 

Socially a lot of my friends drink as well. I often go out and have

water or an orange juice. Yes it wears thin pretty quick and gets a

bit boring huh?! So occasionaly I have one or two which seems not to

be a problem. The other night I got a bit too drunk though, the next

day I got a bit of an itchy rash everywhere on my skin. It seems to

be going now, 4 or 5 days later! (So be careful if you do decide to

drink! LOL)

 

Looking forward to hearing more on it!

 

Cheers,

 

bradly

 

 

 

I love my K. But I am 23, and occasionally I still like to drink. I

feel like I

> basically have to choose one or the other - is that ridiculous?

>

> Any opinions are welcome, thank you for reading my rant.

>

> Love,

> Kerry

[Guest guest]

Kerry,

 

Chose wisely.

 

What the body consciousness wants and what the spirit consciousness

wants are, at times, widely diverse. People get dense at many

different levels due to following the body consciousness. Maybe that

is just the path you need. Only you have the answer.

 

When I left alcohol I never missed it as with many other things that I

have left. That is just me. Okay, I did miss smoking for about 20

years. But only my body missed it. Not my spirit.

 

I no longer associate " partying " with drinking, smoking and random

sexual encounters. I still have incredible times enjoying myself and

others. It is just different. I am not saying that it is better for

everyone but it is definitely better for me.

 

Trust that your prospective can change.

 

BlessU

Sam

 

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Hello Kerry,

> I do not suggest alcohol in the " partying sense " for

> anyone involved in a Kundalini awakening. These are sensitive times

> for a person with Kundalini as the body is being changed on many

> different platforms of consciousness and beingness. You may also

> wish to remember what brought you into the Kundalini to begin with.

>

> Yet this is your body and your life and your right to choose how you

> live is your right! And I encourage you to find the way that suits

> you best.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kerry!

 

You're 23 and you want to have fun. Its been a hard

winter and spring fever may be setting in!? There's

so many different ways to have fun. Because of your

development you may find you've outgrown " partying "

and it may not be the same now. And as Chrism

mentioned, drinking may open you up to some very

unpleasant and negative influences. It would be fun to

hear how others cut loose now, with an activation, and

have fun. Hugz. Much love, dhyana

 

 

--- kiwibird_222 <sktimms wrote:

 

> Hey all,

>

> Following in Claudia's footsteps, I would like to be

> honest about something that has been a

> conflict lately.

>

> Ever since my awakening in November of 06 I have

> been trying my best to surrender to and

> listen to the K. As you know, I quit smoking at the

> end of February and I am so much a non-

> smoker now I can't even be around second hand. I eat

> mostly organic now, my diet is as

> balanced as I can manage. I take a multivitamin,

> omega supplement, I drink lots of water and

> lemon water and ginger tea. But occasionally, I

> still want to party. I don't mean drugs, as I

> would not touch them with a ten-thousand foot pole

> now. I mean drinking. It is summer in

> Montreal, there is a lot going on, I have come out

> of a winter of chaos, painful growth and

> discontent - and I am 23 and K awakened. It is

> confusing, and conflicting. I don't want to

> damage my K, I love my K. But I am 23, and

> occasionally I still like to drink. I feel like I

> basically have to choose one or the other - is that

> ridiculous?

>

> Any opinions are welcome, thank you for reading my

> rant.

>

> Love,

> Kerry

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Kerry...

 

I cannot advise you from a K standpoint, but I did go through the

same situation that you describe a number of years ago. It's taken

me a long time to realize that you can really have as much fun

without drinking. When my wife and I go out to dance, almost

everyone there will be drinking. I've noticed that I really have

more energy, and actually have more fun if I don't. Plus, I don't

have to worry about driving home, or the significant time lost in my

life, dealing with a hang over. (The weekends are already short

enough.) In the end, it is the party atmosphere that I enjoy, not

really the drinking. And though people will offer you drinks, they

soon forget and/or don't care if you don't. I have a good time, and

I feel good the next morning. We really don't need alcohol to have a

good time, we're just conditioned to believe that from a very early

age.

 

Blessings..

Paul

 

 

, " kiwibird_222 "

<sktimms wrote:

>

> Hey all,

>

> Following in Claudia's footsteps, I would like to be honest about

something that has been a

> conflict lately.

>

> Ever since my awakening in November of 06 I have been trying my

best to surrender to and

> listen to the K. As you know, I quit smoking at the end of February

and I am so much a non-

> smoker now I can't even be around second hand. I eat mostly organic

now, my diet is as

> balanced as I can manage. I take a multivitamin, omega supplement,

I drink lots of water and

> lemon water and ginger tea. But occasionally, I still want to

party. I don't mean drugs, as I

> would not touch them with a ten-thousand foot pole now. I mean

drinking. It is summer in

> Montreal, there is a lot going on, I have come out of a winter of

chaos, painful growth and

> discontent - and I am 23 and K awakened. It is confusing, and

conflicting. I don't want to

> damage my K, I love my K. But I am 23, and occasionally I still

like to drink. I feel like I

> basically have to choose one or the other - is that ridiculous?

>

> Any opinions are welcome, thank you for reading my rant.

>

> Love,

> Kerry

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so very much to everyone who got back to me about my 'drinking

dilemma.' I

just wanted to clear up that my desire to drink is not because I think I won't

have a good

time otherwise, because there have been plenty of occasions when I go out while

others

are drinking and stay sober, and having that perspective is a lot of fun, for

sure. It is just

because at times it feels natural to partake with friends. It is hard to be

friends with people

who do party and not always refrain from indulging in a few drinks. Most of the

people I

have met so far in this city who do abstain from everything I find I do not jive

with. The

people who do indulge are crazy, spontaneous, and I need some of that in my

life!!! lol. My

winter has been so contained and confined, and it is good to get out.

But it is true that moderation is key and I am paying close attention to my body

and

energy. I don't think I have opened myself up too much. Thanks again everyone.

 

Love,

Kerry

 

, " paulrffff " <paulffff

wrote:

>

> Hi Kerry...

>

> I cannot advise you from a K standpoint, but I did go through the

> same situation that you describe a number of years ago. It's taken

> me a long time to realize that you can really have as much fun

> without drinking. When my wife and I go out to dance, almost

> everyone there will be drinking. I've noticed that I really have

> more energy, and actually have more fun if I don't. Plus, I don't

> have to worry about driving home, or the significant time lost in my

> life, dealing with a hang over. (The weekends are already short

> enough.) In the end, it is the party atmosphere that I enjoy, not

> really the drinking. And though people will offer you drinks, they

> soon forget and/or don't care if you don't. I have a good time, and

> I feel good the next morning. We really don't need alcohol to have a

> good time, we're just conditioned to believe that from a very early

> age.

>

> Blessings..

> Paul

>

>

> , " kiwibird_222 "

> <sktimms@> wrote:

> >

> > Hey all,

> >

> > Following in Claudia's footsteps, I would like to be honest about

> something that has been a

> > conflict lately.

> >

> > Ever since my awakening in November of 06 I have been trying my

> best to surrender to and

> > listen to the K. As you know, I quit smoking at the end of February

> and I am so much a non-

> > smoker now I can't even be around second hand. I eat mostly organic

> now, my diet is as

> > balanced as I can manage. I take a multivitamin, omega supplement,

> I drink lots of water and

> > lemon water and ginger tea. But occasionally, I still want to

> party. I don't mean drugs, as I

> > would not touch them with a ten-thousand foot pole now. I mean

> drinking. It is summer in

> > Montreal, there is a lot going on, I have come out of a winter of

> chaos, painful growth and

> > discontent - and I am 23 and K awakened. It is confusing, and

> conflicting. I don't want to

> > damage my K, I love my K. But I am 23, and occasionally I still

> like to drink. I feel like I

> > basically have to choose one or the other - is that ridiculous?

> >

> > Any opinions are welcome, thank you for reading my rant.

> >

> > Love,

> > Kerry

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kerry

 

I had to stop hanging around with some of the people that I used to

drink with. All they want to do is get drunk every time they get free time.

 

I was drinking the same for twenty years. It was real hard for me to

quit in 1989, because I didn't get a hangover or have any ill effects

the next day.

 

Now I enjoy a glass or two of wine with my mom. It is not peer pressure

like it was when I first started to drink. But I think a beer or a glass

of wine once in a while is good for a person. I never get drunk any more.

 

Love and Light;

Stephen O.

 

 

kiwibird_222 wrote:

>

> Thank you so very much to everyone who got back to me about my

> 'drinking dilemma.' I

> just wanted to clear up that my desire to drink is not because I think

> I won't have a good

> time otherwise, because there have been plenty of occasions when I go

> out while others

> are drinking and stay sober, and having that perspective is a lot of

> fun, for sure. It is just

> because at times it feels natural to partake with friends. It is hard

> to be friends with people

> who do party and not always refrain from indulging in a few drinks.

> Most of the people I

> have met so far in this city who do abstain from everything I find I

> do not jive with. The

> people who do indulge are crazy, spontaneous, and I need some of that

> in my life!!! lol. My

> winter has been so contained and confined, and it is good to get out.

> But it is true that moderation is key and I am paying close attention

> to my body and

> energy. I don't think I have opened myself up too much. Thanks again

> everyone.

>

> Love,

> Kerry

>

>

> <%40>, " paulrffff "

> <paulffff

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Kerry...

> >

> > I cannot advise you from a K standpoint, but I did go through the

> > same situation that you describe a number of years ago. It's taken

> > me a long time to realize that you can really have as much fun

> > without drinking. When my wife and I go out to dance, almost

> > everyone there will be drinking. I've noticed that I really have

> > more energy, and actually have more fun if I don't. Plus, I don't

> > have to worry about driving home, or the significant time lost in my

> > life, dealing with a hang over. (The weekends are already short

> > enough.) In the end, it is the party atmosphere that I enjoy, not

> > really the drinking. And though people will offer you drinks, they

> > soon forget and/or don't care if you don't. I have a good time, and

> > I feel good the next morning. We really don't need alcohol to have a

> > good time, we're just conditioned to believe that from a very early

> > age.

> >

> > Blessings..

> > Paul

> >

> >

> >

> <%40>, " kiwibird_222 "

> > <sktimms@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hey all,

> > >

> > > Following in Claudia's footsteps, I would like to be honest about

> > something that has been a

> > > conflict lately.

> > >

> > > Ever since my awakening in November of 06 I have been trying my

> > best to surrender to and

> > > listen to the K. As you know, I quit smoking at the end of February

> > and I am so much a non-

> > > smoker now I can't even be around second hand. I eat mostly organic

> > now, my diet is as

> > > balanced as I can manage. I take a multivitamin, omega supplement,

> > I drink lots of water and

> > > lemon water and ginger tea. But occasionally, I still want to

> > party. I don't mean drugs, as I

> > > would not touch them with a ten-thousand foot pole now. I mean

> > drinking. It is summer in

> > > Montreal, there is a lot going on, I have come out of a winter of

> > chaos, painful growth and

> > > discontent - and I am 23 and K awakened. It is confusing, and

> > conflicting. I don't want to

> > > damage my K, I love my K. But I am 23, and occasionally I still

> > like to drink. I feel like I

> > > basically have to choose one or the other - is that ridiculous?

> > >

> > > Any opinions are welcome, thank you for reading my rant.

> > >

> > > Love,

> > > Kerry

> > >

> >

>

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

" You can

> still be friendly,

> compassionate, and helpful without trying to blend

> in and emulate

> collective behavior. "

 

Amen...

 

Good thoughts, Sel, you really boiled it down to the

basic issue.

 

Claudia

 

--- selena230 <selena230 wrote:

 

> Hi Kerry,

>

> Thanks for sharing this question with us. The issue

> is not only about

> drinking. In fact, it can also be about a lot of

> counterproductive

> behaviors--from compulsive shopping to toxic gossip,

> and from sex

> addiction to non-stop political ranting--that often

> emerge from

> peer-pressure and group dynamics.

>

> The key is, in general, to make sure that a. one

> keeps the right

> company at all times, and b. one is perfectly happy

> with being on

> one's own as well. Solitude can be bliss, and there

> is a reason why

> Indian yogis spend most of their time in the woods.

>

> This is not a matter of being haughty and/or

> judgmental, but rather of

> being wise and realizing the impact that different

> energetic levels

> have on a sensitive, spiritual individual. You can

> still be friendly,

> compassionate, and helpful without trying to blend

> in and emulate

> collective behavior.

>

> Namaste,

>

> Sel

>

>

> --- In

> ,

> " Stephen O. "

> <stephen_1952 wrote:

> >

> > Hi Kerry

> >

> > I had to stop hanging around with some of the

> people that I used to

> > drink with. All they want to do is get drunk every

> time they get

> free time.

> >

> > I was drinking the same for twenty years. It was

> real hard for me to

> > quit in 1989, because I didn't get a hangover or

> have any ill effects

> > the next day.

> >

> > Now I enjoy a glass or two of wine with my mom. It

> is not peer pressure

> > like it was when I first started to drink. But I

> think a beer or a

> glass

> > of wine once in a while is good for a person. I

> never get drunk any

> more.

> >

> > Love and Light;

> > Stephen O.

> >

> >

> > kiwibird_222 wrote:

> > >

> > > Thank you so very much to everyone who got back

> to me about my

> > > 'drinking dilemma.' I

> > > just wanted to clear up that my desire to drink

> is not because I

> think

> > > I won't have a good

> > > time otherwise, because there have been plenty

> of occasions when I go

> > > out while others

> > > are drinking and stay sober, and having that

> perspective is a lot of

> > > fun, for sure. It is just

> > > because at times it feels natural to partake

> with friends. It is hard

> > > to be friends with people

> > > who do party and not always refrain from

> indulging in a few drinks.

> > > Most of the people I

> > > have met so far in this city who do abstain from

> everything I find I

> > > do not jive with. The

> > > people who do indulge are crazy, spontaneous,

> and I need some of that

> > > in my life!!! lol. My

> > > winter has been so contained and confined, and

> it is good to get out.

> > > But it is true that moderation is key and I am

> paying close attention

> > > to my body and

> > > energy. I don't think I have opened myself up

> too much. Thanks again

> > > everyone.

> > >

> > > Love,

> > > Kerry

> > >

> > > --- In

>

> > >

>

<%40>,

> " paulrffff "

> > > <paulffff@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Kerry...

> > > >

> > > > I cannot advise you from a K standpoint, but I

> did go through the

> > > > same situation that you describe a number of

> years ago. It's taken

> > > > me a long time to realize that you can really

> have as much fun

> > > > without drinking. When my wife and I go out to

> dance, almost

> > > > everyone there will be drinking. I've noticed

> that I really have

> > > > more energy, and actually have more fun if I

> don't. Plus, I don't

> > > > have to worry about driving home, or the

> significant time lost in my

> > > > life, dealing with a hang over. (The weekends

> are already short

> > > > enough.) In the end, it is the party

> atmosphere that I enjoy, not

> > > > really the drinking. And though people will

> offer you drinks, they

> > > > soon forget and/or don't care if you don't. I

> have a good time, and

> > > > I feel good the next morning. We really don't

> need alcohol to have a

> > > > good time, we're just conditioned to believe

> that from a very early

> > > > age.

> > > >

> > > > Blessings..

> > > > Paul

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

>

> > >

>

<%40>,

> " kiwibird_222 "

> > > > <sktimms@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hey all,

> > > > >

> > > > > Following in Claudia's footsteps, I would

> like to be honest about

> > > > something that has been a

> > > > > conflict lately.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ever since my awakening in November of 06 I

> have been trying my

> > > > best to surrender to and

> > > > > listen to the K. As you know, I quit smoking

> at the end of

> February

> > > > and I am so much a non-

> > > > > smoker now I can't even be around second

> hand. I eat mostly

> organic

> > > > now, my diet is as

> > > > > balanced as I can manage. I take a

> multivitamin, omega supplement,

> > > > I drink lots of water and

> > > > > lemon water and ginger tea. But

> occasionally, I still want to

> > > > party. I don't mean drugs, as I

> > > > > would not touch them with a ten-thousand

> foot pole now. I mean

> > > > drinking. It is summer in

> > > > > Montreal, there is a lot going on, I have

> come out of a winter of

> > > > chaos, painful growth and

> > > > > discontent - and I am 23 and K awakened. It

> is confusing, and

> > > > conflicting. I don't want to

> > > > > damage my K, I love my K. But I am 23, and

> occasionally I still

> > > > like to drink. I feel like I

> > > > > basically have to choose one or the other -

> is that ridiculous?

> > > > >

> > > > > Any opinions are welcome, thank you for

> reading my rant.

> > > > >

> > > > > Love,

> > > > > Kerry

> > > > >

> > > >

>

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