Dealing with discouragement-Stephen O

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Dear Stephen,

 

Thank you so much for your thoughtful and helpful

response. I will give your meditation method a try,

thanks!

 

I had a moment of discouragement, which I am finding

out all of us have from time to time, and I was very

much uplifted by the responses to my post, yours

included. I am happy to tell you that I have a new

lease on my path and realize now that the best

approach to my K is to LOSE the expectations and just

enjoy the path. It's funny how a little attitude

adjustment can make such a difference. I assure you

with no doubt or hesitation that I will NOT be leaving

the group or abandoning my commitment to the awakening

of my Kundalini.

 

Thank you for caring,

 

Love & Blessings,

Claudia

 

P.S. 'the greatest cause of suffering is

thinking'...that is so true and really made me laugh!!

 

--- " Stephen O. " <stephen_1952 wrote:

 

> Hello Claudia

>

> When I started to meditate I tried every kind from

> listening to audio

> taped meditations, guided meditation by a person the

> one who taught me

> mindfulness meditation. He was a medical doctor but

> he was also a Buddhist.

>

> I found that taped meditations are good if you

> memorize them and then do

> them yourself. There is one very simple one that he

> taught me first.

>

> Sit quietly relax your body first.

>

> Then feel the cool air as it enters your nostrils

> and the warm air as it

> leaves. Don't control the breath just feel it. If it

> is easier you can

> just feel your belly rise and fall as you breath.

>

> When you realize that your thoughts have taken over

> gently bring your

> attention back to your breathing. Stay with your

> breath and when you

> notice your attention has strayed bring it gently

> back to your breath.

>

> It is best if you do it at the same time, and in the

> same spot every day

> to start with. If that is not possible you can do it

> when ever you can.

>

> I lost many psychic abilities years ago due to shock

> therapy. I have

> felt sad because of the loss, but they are now

> starting to return.

>

> I have no doubt that you will have conscious OBEs

> again.

>

> I would personally miss you very much should you

> leave the group. Most

> of the time I am behind in the messages, but you

> have no reason to be

> embarrassed.

>

> My teacher told me that the greatest cause of

> suffering is thinking. I

> have found him to be right.

>

> Love and Light;

> Stephen O.

> PS: I am adding you to my prayer list. I will pray

> for you to get the

> energy you need to deal, and I will also pray for

> you to get answers

> that you need.

>

>

>

>

>

> Claudia Lambright wrote:

> >

> > Dear group,

> >

> > has suggested that I share with you some

> > personal correspondence we had this weekend in

> hopes

> > that it may help others in the group having

> similar

> > issues. This is very personal, but if helps

> someone

> > else, then I will be happy and try not to be too

> > embarrassed.

> >

> > Here are three posts; my post to Chrism, his

> response

> > to me, and my response to him.

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > Dear Chrism:

> >

> > I'm very discouraged.

> >

> > I never meditated before I started with the K...I

> am

> > having a hard time with it, trying to keep

> thoughts

> > out of my mind. I've heard differing opinions

> about

> > using guided meditation/music versus NOT using

> them.

> > I've tried both, I keep trying both, but I don't

> see

> > any progress whatsoever. Each time a thought comes

> > into my head, I think 'good thought...I'll think

> about

> > that later' and let it go. But they keep coming

> and

> > coming. Next thing I know 20 or 30 minutes has

> passed

> > and all I've done is volley thoughts.

> >

> > I keep having back problems. I got through the

> lower

> > back pain during the middle part of April and was

> able

> > to start doing Yoga. Then, on April 24, a new pain

> > started, this one more severe than the lower back

> > pain...it was all across my shoulders and

> radiating up

> > into the back of my neck. It lasted 10 days,

> during

> > which time it moved around the shoulder/neck area,

> > finally settling right between my shoulder blades

> > before it finally subsided. The pain was so

> intense

> > at night that I could not sleep without taking

> > ibuprofen; I know you said not to medicate, but I

> did

> > so in order to sleep.

> >

> > During the times of back pain, my Yoga/Tibetans

> > suffered. I did the spinning, but the pain was too

> > strong to do much of anything else, although I did

> > what I could. I also feared making the pain worse

> by

> > doing certain exercises.

> >

> > I am not at all convinced that the pain is due to

> the

> > K. In both cases, there were other possible causes

> > for the pain; the lower back pain, the 5th

> Tibetan;

> > the shoulder/neck pain, dead-lifting about 25 lbs.

> > with my extended left arm.

> >

> > I am also having a hard time with joy. I take

> great

> > joy in nature. When I'm driving and from work,

> etc.,

> > I really enjoy the views, and there are many as I

> > drive across a causeway over the Atlantic Ocean to

> my

> > job on an island. I work at a marina, so the views

> > and the breeze and the ocean smells there are

> > wonderful and I soak them up. I also soak up

> nature

> > on my afternoon bike rides around my neighborhood.

> I

> > feel such joy sometimes that tears well up in my

> eyes.

> >

> > Other than nature, I don't find much joy...I find

> > really negative thoughts in my head, like when I

> go to

> > the store and see shopping carts everywhere except

> at

> > the return stations where they are supposed to go;

> I

> > think about how lazy and irresponsible and plain

> > uncaring those people are that leave their carts

> > around, and I think that I am more highly

> spiritually

> > evolved than they are (then I feel bad for

> thinking

> > that, plus I know it's not true). That is an

> > example...there are other instances. My head noise

> is

> > incessant and negative.

> >

> > I doubt that my K is really awakening. I feel

> > foolish, like a child playing house...it's an

> > illusion...I am just pretending to be awakening. I

> > have no evidence that it is awakening, in fact,

> I'm

> > not as happy as I was before I committed to this.

> I

> > wake up each morning and face another day of going

> > through the motions but seeing no signs that I am

> > advancing.

> >

> > I AM enjoying the service. I am getting out with a

> > large garbage bag and picking up litter around my

> > neighborhood. When I ride my bike, I pinpoint

> other

> > places I will go to pick up trash. When I ride my

> > bike, I have also been seeing an old lady sitting

> on

> > her porch in my neighborhood; she sits alone and

> has

> > an oxygen tank. Friday, I stopped and talked to

> her

> > and told her I'd like to stop by again and chat

> with

> > her. She seemed to like the idea. I love old folks

> > and will enjoy getting to know her.

> >

>

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