Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hi group! My recent Kundalini re-awakening, as I call it, is (I think) involving some very specific pain and discomfort and I wanted to see if anyone had any ideas about what I can do about it. This is a little personal, but hey, you're all just little blips on my computer monitor, so what the hell... I've got a bladder condition that I've had since my teenage years called Interstitial Cystitis. It's a mysterious condition that causes frequent urges to urinate, discomfort and sometimes pain. It started flaring up some 6 months ago or so but suddenly is much worse. I have the nagging sense it is related to the K... that it involves something I am blocking. I watch my diet, avoid acidic foods, eat and drink things that are alkalizing (like watermelon) and drink a lot of water. These things help. Occasionally, I take muscle relaxers which are the only meds that ever help, aside from pain-killers. My (limited) understanding is that bladder issues relate to the second Chakra and sexual/creative issues. I've recently cleared a great deal of those (and quite powerfully I might add). I would have expected my symptoms to get better shortly thereafter, but instead I am much worse. I think there may yet be issues I am not aware of influencing me. I had a lot of sexual and creative repression in my early life (and I do mean a lot) and some mild sexual abuse as a pre-teen. I've done a LOT of work on those issues and have felt like I cleared the important stuff. But these symptoms seem to be telling me otherwise. I keep working on the psychological/emotional stuff myself, and somewhat with a coach and therapist but I was hoping someone here would have some insights into other ways of treating this. I've been trying kegels, but quite frankly, it feels a bit worse after I do those exercises. I also do a lot of visualizing and relaxing, all with little effect. Frankly, the more I work on it from whatever angle, the more pain I seem to have. But it's also impossible to ignore. It can be a pretty maddening condition and it interferes with sleep terribly. Some nights I am up every 15 minutes for hours at a time and can only catch snippets of sleep in between. Any ideas out there? Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 (((Alex!!!))) Avoid all irritants making it notable as well as you can. Breathe. attempt to breathe into pain not panic. Try natural supplements (like the balance of an absorbable form of calcium PS don't take calcium & drink tea it foams) LOL and an absorbable form of magnesium - in a combination which, after experimenting, for you, reduces bladder spasms. (they are a form of muscle cramping) Attempt to be hydrated super dehydration (ie antihistimines, decongestants, and diet/water pills, some blood pressure pills are 'water pills' all together at once! make dehydration ouch!) and dyhdration may activate residual colonies of bacteria or just make it uncomfortable. yeouw who would know? seriuosly? that drinking one diet soda pop would make it worse? once I thought cranberry pills would help or cranberry juice- and then LOL i found out it was a popular bladder infection cure- because it was a bladder irritant to some degree & would increase the urge to pee. LOL there I am religiously taking this stuff- and it's making the discomfort worse. Plus regular cranberry juice and lots of sugar & can grow yeast if that's a coexisting overgrowth or part of the problem irritating the lining of the bladder. Can I change a pattern? yes. can I change past physical scarring? alone I'm not sure. I saw a physical therapist assistant who did energy work while pulling out strictures and scars one summer while also doing kegels in a series of meetings. I have never been the same or haunted by ongoing frustrating pain. there were memories when she moved or massaged or pulled or pushed deep into the muscles. and something called? starts with an f fashia? facia? she was pulling loose that had me bound somehow with all the scars. And they were connected, physically, with my past experiences, young ones and that was interfereing with the now. this work in that one summer- changed my whole life opening the way for experiencing things differently. Not soley through physical pain as if I had been looking through a little tiny glass at moments when surprassing physical pain wrapped me in. And it is no more a container for my spirit nor does it keep my body bound the way it once did. for me it was lots of internal scarring, a series of surgeries, and irritation was the final crux. Moving lymph fluid. Moving the body. Not being stillin the pain. Action distraction. I noticed about well six months of energy movement, I think of it as rerouting as it came up through my leg, legs, making a circuit, around and through the pelvis so that energy could flow. I am so much better now. All around. the phsyical blockages or feelings needle pricks or days of point, focal pain, face, head pain- are nothing nothing compared to the years of pain prior with intermittant surgeries, & nothing compared to the mental pain facing my children's surgeries & their one tumor each (aggressive/could not be treated with chemo or radiation only surgical extraction)- that mental pain was also healed through this process as it has proceeded so far. Some folks are concerned with how things specifically energy or kundalini feels, I would say it feels a whole lot better - than just living in the physical. discerning blockages and patterns, and learning, and finding connection to more than that = is worth it. finding a balance for less cramping read my last post in this forum. I know my writing is a bit scattered I'm sorry. I'm on my way to work & must run. Love abound & surround you in fantastic perceivable ways & may you now & always have the best of days. Love Ruth , " Alexandria " <ladyinsubstance wrote: > > Hi group! > > My recent Kundalini re-awakening, as I call it, is (I think) involving > some very specific pain and discomfort and I wanted to see if anyone > had any ideas about what I can do about it. > > This is a little personal, but hey, you're all just little blips on my > computer monitor, so what the hell... > > I've got a bladder condition that I've had since my teenage years > called Interstitial Cystitis. It's a mysterious condition that causes > frequent urges to urinate, discomfort and sometimes pain. It started > flaring up some 6 months ago or so but suddenly is much worse. I have > the nagging sense it is related to the K... that it involves something > I am blocking. > > I watch my diet, avoid acidic foods, eat and drink things that are > alkalizing (like watermelon) and drink a lot of water. These things > help. Occasionally, I take muscle relaxers which are the only meds > that ever help, aside from pain-killers. > > My (limited) understanding is that bladder issues relate to the second > Chakra and sexual/creative issues. I've recently cleared a great deal > of those (and quite powerfully I might add). I would have expected my > symptoms to get better shortly thereafter, but instead I am much > worse. I think there may yet be issues I am not aware of influencing > me. > > I had a lot of sexual and creative repression in my early life (and I > do mean a lot) and some mild sexual abuse as a pre-teen. I've done a > LOT of work on those issues and have felt like I cleared the important > stuff. But these symptoms seem to be telling me otherwise. > > I keep working on the psychological/emotional stuff myself, and > somewhat with a coach and therapist but I was hoping someone here > would have some insights into other ways of treating this. > > I've been trying kegels, but quite frankly, it feels a bit worse after > I do those exercises. I also do a lot of visualizing and relaxing, > all with little effect. Frankly, the more I work on it from whatever > angle, the more pain I seem to have. But it's also impossible to ignore. > > It can be a pretty maddening condition and it interferes with sleep > terribly. Some nights I am up every 15 minutes for hours at a time > and can only catch snippets of sleep in between. > > Any ideas out there? > > Alex > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hi Alex, Oh how I feel your pain! I didn't think anyone else in the world was plagued with this the way I was. IC I can honestly say hurts worse than having a baby, and I've had 2! For me it was excruciating in a different way... like nothing else I've ever experienced. Anyway, after 10 years or so of enduring IC, the only thing that worked for me was pregnancy and having kids! Sounds crazy but it worked. And I used to have the episodes at least once a month, and that was with keeping a constant prescription of trimethoprim (strongest med at the time) whenever I felt the need. Absolutely nothing worked for me, until the blessed event occurred. I had none during my pregnancy (what a relief!) and none thereafter. YAY! But it hasn't been so long that I don't remember... I know all too well what you're going through. I will do my absolute best to send you healing energy in that regard, and hope it will be received. Love and comfort to you also! love & light ~Jen~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear Jen: Thanks so much for writing! It's so nice to be understood... about this (not to mention the Kundalini). Yes, it is a particularly nasty sort of pain, quite unlike anything else. I've often thought I'd trade it for more severe pain in another body part, if I were given a choice. Some kinds of pain are just a lot harder to endure than others. And they won't give me any pain meds so I'm stuck with whatever diversions I can devise. Daytime, I don't do too badly and often don't really notice it much. But 5 minutes after I lay down to sleep... that's the toughest time. So glad to hear it CAN go away. I think I'll pass on the having-a-baby cure however since I'm childless and 49 years old. ;] Alex Jen <jenls505 wrote: Hi Alex, Oh how I feel your pain! I didn't think anyone else in the world was plagued with this the way I was. IC I can honestly say hurts worse than having a baby, and I've had 2! For me it was excruciating in a different way... like nothing else I've ever experienced. Anyway, after 10 years or so of enduring IC, the only thing that worked for me was pregnancy and having kids! Sounds crazy but it worked. And I used to have the episodes at least once a month, and that was with keeping a constant prescription of trimethoprim (strongest med at the time) whenever I felt the need. Absolutely nothing worked for me, until the blessed event occurred. I had none during my pregnancy (what a relief!) and none thereafter. YAY! But it hasn't been so long that I don't remember... I know all too well what you're going through. I will do my absolute best to send you healing energy in that regard, and hope it will be received. Love and comfort to you also! love & light ~Jen~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Dear Alexandria, i can empathize with you on this one, I too have suffered numerous disorders related to this area and the two lower chakras. Just when I think I'm getting somewhere and I should be getting better, I have a flare up and it seemingly gets worse. One step forward, two steps back. But, in truth this is not the casae, we are just getting deeper and deeper into the issue ,I guess, and drawing out all the pain we need to feel to get over whatever we need to. so, keep up the good work, it takes longer then we anticipate at times, but we will get there. Good luck and good health to you, Elektra x x x --- Alexandria <ladyinsubstance wrote: > Hi group! > > My recent Kundalini re-awakening, as I call it, is > (I think) involving > some very specific pain and discomfort and I wanted > to see if anyone > had any ideas about what I can do about it. > > This is a little personal, but hey, you're all just > little blips on my > computer monitor, so what the hell... > > I've got a bladder condition that I've had since my > teenage years > called Interstitial Cystitis. It's a mysterious > condition that causes > frequent urges to urinate, discomfort and sometimes > pain. It started > flaring up some 6 months ago or so but suddenly is > much worse. I have > the nagging sense it is related to the K... that it > involves something > I am blocking. > > I watch my diet, avoid acidic foods, eat and drink > things that are > alkalizing (like watermelon) and drink a lot of > water. These things > help. Occasionally, I take muscle relaxers which > are the only meds > that ever help, aside from pain-killers. > > My (limited) understanding is that bladder issues > relate to the second > Chakra and sexual/creative issues. I've recently > cleared a great deal > of those (and quite powerfully I might add). I > would have expected my > symptoms to get better shortly thereafter, but > instead I am much > worse. I think there may yet be issues I am not > aware of influencing > me. > > I had a lot of sexual and creative repression in my > early life (and I > do mean a lot) and some mild sexual abuse as a > pre-teen. I've done a > LOT of work on those issues and have felt like I > cleared the important > stuff. But these symptoms seem to be telling me > otherwise. > > I keep working on the psychological/emotional stuff > myself, and > somewhat with a coach and therapist but I was hoping > someone here > would have some insights into other ways of treating > this. > > I've been trying kegels, but quite frankly, it feels > a bit worse after > I do those exercises. I also do a lot of > visualizing and relaxing, > all with little effect. Frankly, the more I work on > it from whatever > angle, the more pain I seem to have. But it's also > impossible to ignore. > > It can be a pretty maddening condition and it > interferes with sleep > terribly. Some nights I am up every 15 minutes for > hours at a time > and can only catch snippets of sleep in between. > > Any ideas out there? > > Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Alex, lol I knew having a baby probably wasn't in the cards, but just wanted to mention that the problem did end for me at that point! I forgot to mention that there is an over-the-counter med for pain (is it called AZO maybe?) which helps some. It didn't come out until near the end of my issue with IC, and never knocked out the pain completely, but it was better than nothing... sort of took the edge off if you know what I mean. I sincerely hope that through this group and within yourself that you're able to get rid of this, so your life can get back to normal. (Normal, what's that? hehe) You'll be in my thoughts... love & light ~Jen~ , " P. Alexandria " <ladyinsubstance wrote: > > Dear Jen: > > Thanks so much for writing! It's so nice to be understood... about this (not to mention the Kundalini). > > Yes, it is a particularly nasty sort of pain, quite unlike anything else. I've often thought I'd trade it for more severe pain in another body part, if I were given a choice. Some kinds of pain are just a lot harder to endure than others. And they won't give me any pain meds so I'm stuck with whatever diversions I can devise. > > Daytime, I don't do too badly and often don't really notice it much. But 5 minutes after I lay down to sleep... that's the toughest time. > > So glad to hear it CAN go away. I think I'll pass on the having-a-baby cure however since I'm childless and 49 years old. ;] > > Alex > Jen <jenls505 wrote: Hi Alex, > > Oh how I feel your pain! I didn't think anyone else in the world was > plagued with this the way I was. IC I can honestly say hurts worse > than having a baby, and I've had 2! For me it was excruciating in a > different way... like nothing else I've ever experienced. Anyway, > after 10 years or so of enduring IC, the only thing that worked for me > was pregnancy and having kids! Sounds crazy but it worked. And I used > to have the episodes at least once a month, and that was with keeping > a constant prescription of trimethoprim (strongest med at the time) > whenever I felt the need. Absolutely nothing worked for me, until the > blessed event occurred. I had none during my pregnancy (what a > relief!) and none thereafter. YAY! But it hasn't been so long that I > don't remember... I know all too well what you're going through. I > will do my absolute best to send you healing energy in that regard, > and hope it will be received. Love and comfort to you also! > > love & light ~Jen~ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Life back to normal? hehe I would not know what that is. I have never felt normal a single day that I can recall. ;] The IC has been in my life about 35 years now, so in a way, that IS normal for me, though the recent flare-up is disturbing and much longer and more severe than any in the past. I do have a sense that I can clear this but it is so very hard to be patient. Thanks so much for writing! Alex Jen <jenls505 wrote: Alex, lol I knew having a baby probably wasn't in the cards, but just wanted to mention that the problem did end for me at that point! I forgot to mention that there is an over-the-counter med for pain (is it called AZO maybe?) which helps some. It didn't come out until near the end of my issue with IC, and never knocked out the pain completely, but it was better than nothing... sort of took the edge off if you know what I mean. I sincerely hope that through this group and within yourself that you're able to get rid of this, so your life can get back to normal. (Normal, what's that? hehe) You'll be in my thoughts... love & light ~Jen~ , " P. Alexandria " <ladyinsubstance wrote: > > Dear Jen: > > Thanks so much for writing! It's so nice to be understood... about this (not to mention the Kundalini). > > Yes, it is a particularly nasty sort of pain, quite unlike anything else. I've often thought I'd trade it for more severe pain in another body part, if I were given a choice. Some kinds of pain are just a lot harder to endure than others. And they won't give me any pain meds so I'm stuck with whatever diversions I can devise. > > Daytime, I don't do too badly and often don't really notice it much. But 5 minutes after I lay down to sleep... that's the toughest time. > > So glad to hear it CAN go away. I think I'll pass on the having-a-baby cure however since I'm childless and 49 years old. ;] > > Alex > Jen <jenls505 wrote: Hi Alex, > > Oh how I feel your pain! I didn't think anyone else in the world was > plagued with this the way I was. IC I can honestly say hurts worse > than having a baby, and I've had 2! For me it was excruciating in a > different way... like nothing else I've ever experienced. Anyway, > after 10 years or so of enduring IC, the only thing that worked for me > was pregnancy and having kids! Sounds crazy but it worked. And I used > to have the episodes at least once a month, and that was with keeping > a constant prescription of trimethoprim (strongest med at the time) > whenever I felt the need. Absolutely nothing worked for me, until the > blessed event occurred. I had none during my pregnancy (what a > relief!) and none thereafter. YAY! But it hasn't been so long that I > don't remember... I know all too well what you're going through. I > will do my absolute best to send you healing energy in that regard, > and hope it will be received. Love and comfort to you also! > > love & light ~Jen~ > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Igor & Chrism: I did feel quite a bit better last night than I had in several days at least, after Igor did his " thing " . I then spent a good part of the night with some rather fantastic energy surges, more intense than anything I have experienced since childhood. For hours last night, my bladder symptoms would sort of spike suddenly and then die off quickly... not sure what that was about. I slept only 3 hours and then was up again with more energy surges this morning, though less intense. My bladder symptoms are now a dull sort of aching... not great but not as bad as it has been often lately. Igor said he'd do another session and I will be calling him again tonight. As to " other ways " , I certainly find I'm able to consider lots of possibilities I'd have never thought logical or possible in the past. I feel more and more every day that sense of surrender and the letting go of the necessity for a particular outcome. I got to this place in great part I think because I finally came to a time in my life where I knew the next step for me was acceptance, and that applies to all areas of life. I accepted my Chronic Fatigue and it immediately became easier to bear. It's a bit more of a challenge to accept the IC... the pain and discomfort is of a very nagging sort. But I am working towards that goal. Thank you again for all the help. Alex chrism <> wrote: Yes I understand. If you are ready to look at " other ways " and surrender to the process of Kundalini, there are very few limitations except what you put in the way of your recovery. Saying that requires that I must say this. " Any advice OR opinion(s) stated by " chrism " , is in no way intended or to be construed or inferred or assumed or accepted as medical advice or the practice of medicine in any way. Nor is it intended or expected by any party, reading or informed of this opinion, in any way, to be accepted or considered, or interpreted as a cure for anything or anyone. Chrism is stating an opinion and any medical need or needs should be taken to a qualified Medical Doctor or another form of government sponsored and accepted format of treatment. - " chrism " " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Hi there i did 2 sessions ........ ..the second this pm. I think this effort should now go to the group under your direction. Please note the energetic changes for Alex,as well as the physical spinal condition she decribes. What Alex describes as the experience last night shows its energetic at least in part. this is all very new to her. Im sure the Safeties and more are called for here. Igor. : ladyinsubstance: Fri, 18 May 2007 08:56:10 -0700Re: Re: how to handle pain Igor & Chrism:I did feel quite a bit better last night than I had in several days at least, after Igor did his " thing " . I then spent a good part of the night with some rather fantastic energy surges, more intense than anything I have experienced since childhood. For hours last night, my bladder symptoms would sort of spike suddenly and then die off quickly... not sure what that was about. I slept only 3 hours and then was up again with more energy surges this morning, though less intense. My bladder symptoms are now a dull sort of aching... not great but not as bad as it has been often lately.Igor said he'd do another session and I will be calling him again tonight.As to " other ways " , I certainly find I'm able to consider lots of possibilities I'd have never thought logical or possible in the past. I feel more and more every day that sense of surrender and the letting go of the necessity for a particular outcome. I got to this place in great part I think because I finally came to a time in my life where I knew the next step for me was acceptance, and that applies to all areas of life. I accepted my Chronic Fatigue and it immediately became easier to bear. It's a bit more of a challenge to accept the IC... the pain and discomfort is of a very nagging sort. But I am working towards that goal.Thank you again for all the help.Alexchrism <> wrote: Yes I understand. If you are ready to look at " other ways " and surrender to the process of Kundalini, there are very few limitations except what you put in the way of your recovery. Saying that requires that I must say this. " Any advice OR opinion(s) stated by " chrism " , is in no wayintended or to be construed or inferred or assumed or accepted as medical adviceor the practice of medicine in any way. Nor is it intended or expected by anyparty, reading or informed of this opinion, in any way, to be accepted orconsidered, or interpreted as a cure for anything or anyone. is statingan opinion and any medical need or needs should be taken to a qualified MedicalDoctor or another form of government sponsored and accepted format oftreatment. - " chrism " " [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _______________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us & source=wlmai\ ltagline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Alex, Would you like any more of us on the list to send you healing or prayers? Please just ask...! I think a number of us pray and send energy daily. You are very inspiring, thanks so much for sharing with us. I'm sure you are on the right track now to helping clear up the challenges of your condition. Some other options to consider might be accupuncture, yoga, thai massage, and chiropractic treatment. Something on some level might just need a slight shift in order to flow. Lots of great people are on your side! Hang in there. Peace be with you, bradly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Hi there Alex the many suggestions are great and good suggestions Bradly .............But Alex ''not''Chiropractic please your current spinal dynamics may be a contra-indication. Igor. : curball2002: Sat, 19 May 2007 02:31:37 +0000Subject: Re: how to handle pain Alex,Would you like any more of us on the list to send you healing or prayers? Please just ask...! I think a number of us pray and send energy daily. You are very inspiring, thanks so much for sharing with us. I'm sure you are on the right track now to helping clear up the challenges of your condition. Some other options to consider might be accupuncture, yoga, thai massage, and chiropractic treatment. Something on some level might just need a slight shift in order to flow. Lots of great people are on your side! Hang in there.Peace be with you,bradly _______________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us & source=wlmai\ ltagline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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