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Hi group!

 

My recent Kundalini re-awakening, as I call it, is (I think) involving

some very specific pain and discomfort and I wanted to see if anyone

had any ideas about what I can do about it.

 

This is a little personal, but hey, you're all just little blips on my

computer monitor, so what the hell...

 

I've got a bladder condition that I've had since my teenage years

called Interstitial Cystitis. It's a mysterious condition that causes

frequent urges to urinate, discomfort and sometimes pain. It started

flaring up some 6 months ago or so but suddenly is much worse. I have

the nagging sense it is related to the K... that it involves something

I am blocking.

 

I watch my diet, avoid acidic foods, eat and drink things that are

alkalizing (like watermelon) and drink a lot of water. These things

help. Occasionally, I take muscle relaxers which are the only meds

that ever help, aside from pain-killers.

 

My (limited) understanding is that bladder issues relate to the second

Chakra and sexual/creative issues. I've recently cleared a great deal

of those (and quite powerfully I might add). I would have expected my

symptoms to get better shortly thereafter, but instead I am much

worse. I think there may yet be issues I am not aware of influencing

me.

 

I had a lot of sexual and creative repression in my early life (and I

do mean a lot) and some mild sexual abuse as a pre-teen. I've done a

LOT of work on those issues and have felt like I cleared the important

stuff. But these symptoms seem to be telling me otherwise.

 

I keep working on the psychological/emotional stuff myself, and

somewhat with a coach and therapist but I was hoping someone here

would have some insights into other ways of treating this.

 

I've been trying kegels, but quite frankly, it feels a bit worse after

I do those exercises. I also do a lot of visualizing and relaxing,

all with little effect. Frankly, the more I work on it from whatever

angle, the more pain I seem to have. But it's also impossible to ignore.

 

It can be a pretty maddening condition and it interferes with sleep

terribly. Some nights I am up every 15 minutes for hours at a time

and can only catch snippets of sleep in between.

 

Any ideas out there?

 

Alex

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(((Alex!!!))) Avoid all irritants making it notable as well as you

can. Breathe. attempt to breathe into pain not panic. Try natural

supplements (like the balance of an absorbable form of calcium PS

don't take calcium & drink tea it foams) LOL and an absorbable form

of magnesium - in a combination which, after experimenting, for you,

reduces bladder spasms. (they are a form of muscle cramping)

 

Attempt to be hydrated super dehydration (ie antihistimines,

decongestants, and diet/water pills, some blood pressure pills

are 'water pills' all together at once! make dehydration ouch!) and

dyhdration may activate residual colonies of bacteria or just make it

uncomfortable. yeouw who would know? seriuosly? that drinking one

diet soda pop would make it worse?

 

once I thought cranberry pills would help or cranberry juice- and

then LOL i found out it was a popular bladder infection cure- because

it was a bladder irritant to some degree & would increase the urge to

pee. LOL there I am religiously taking this stuff- and it's making

the discomfort worse. Plus regular cranberry juice and lots of sugar

& can grow yeast if that's a coexisting overgrowth or part of the

problem irritating the lining of the bladder.

 

Can I change a pattern? yes. can I change past physical scarring?

alone I'm not sure. I saw a physical therapist assistant who did

energy work while pulling out strictures and scars one summer while

also doing kegels in a series of meetings. I have never been the same

or haunted by ongoing frustrating pain.

 

there were memories when she moved or massaged or pulled or pushed

deep into the muscles. and something called? starts with an f fashia?

facia? she was pulling loose that had me bound somehow with all the

scars. And they were connected, physically, with my past experiences,

young ones and that was interfereing with the now.

 

this work in that one summer- changed my whole life opening the way

for experiencing things differently. Not soley through physical pain

as if I had been looking through a little tiny glass at moments when

surprassing physical pain wrapped me in. And it is no more a

container for my spirit nor does it keep my body bound the way it

once did.

 

for me it was lots of internal scarring, a series of surgeries, and

irritation was the final crux. Moving lymph fluid. Moving the body.

Not being stillin the pain. Action distraction.

 

I noticed about well six months of energy movement, I think of it as

rerouting as it came up through my leg, legs, making a circuit,

around and through the pelvis so that energy could flow. I am so much

better now. All around.

the phsyical blockages or feelings needle pricks or days of point,

focal pain, face, head pain- are nothing nothing compared to the

years of pain prior with intermittant surgeries, & nothing compared

to the mental pain facing my children's surgeries & their one tumor

each (aggressive/could not be treated with chemo or radiation only

surgical extraction)- that mental pain was also healed through this

process as it has proceeded so far.

 

Some folks are concerned with how things specifically energy or

kundalini feels, I would say it feels a whole lot better - than just

living in the physical. discerning blockages and patterns, and

learning, and finding connection to more than that = is worth it.

 

finding a balance for less cramping read my last post in this forum.

I know my writing is a bit scattered I'm sorry. I'm on my way to work

& must run.

 

Love abound & surround you in fantastic perceivable ways & may you

now & always have the best of days. Love Ruth

 

 

, " Alexandria "

<ladyinsubstance wrote:

>

> Hi group!

>

> My recent Kundalini re-awakening, as I call it, is (I think)

involving

> some very specific pain and discomfort and I wanted to see if anyone

> had any ideas about what I can do about it.

>

> This is a little personal, but hey, you're all just little blips on

my

> computer monitor, so what the hell...

>

> I've got a bladder condition that I've had since my teenage years

> called Interstitial Cystitis. It's a mysterious condition that

causes

> frequent urges to urinate, discomfort and sometimes pain. It

started

> flaring up some 6 months ago or so but suddenly is much worse. I

have

> the nagging sense it is related to the K... that it involves

something

> I am blocking.

>

> I watch my diet, avoid acidic foods, eat and drink things that are

> alkalizing (like watermelon) and drink a lot of water. These things

> help. Occasionally, I take muscle relaxers which are the only meds

> that ever help, aside from pain-killers.

>

> My (limited) understanding is that bladder issues relate to the

second

> Chakra and sexual/creative issues. I've recently cleared a great

deal

> of those (and quite powerfully I might add). I would have expected

my

> symptoms to get better shortly thereafter, but instead I am much

> worse. I think there may yet be issues I am not aware of

influencing

> me.

>

> I had a lot of sexual and creative repression in my early life (and

I

> do mean a lot) and some mild sexual abuse as a pre-teen. I've done

a

> LOT of work on those issues and have felt like I cleared the

important

> stuff. But these symptoms seem to be telling me otherwise.

>

> I keep working on the psychological/emotional stuff myself, and

> somewhat with a coach and therapist but I was hoping someone here

> would have some insights into other ways of treating this.

>

> I've been trying kegels, but quite frankly, it feels a bit worse

after

> I do those exercises. I also do a lot of visualizing and relaxing,

> all with little effect. Frankly, the more I work on it from

whatever

> angle, the more pain I seem to have. But it's also impossible to

ignore.

>

> It can be a pretty maddening condition and it interferes with sleep

> terribly. Some nights I am up every 15 minutes for hours at a time

> and can only catch snippets of sleep in between.

>

> Any ideas out there?

>

> Alex

>

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Hi Alex,

 

Oh how I feel your pain! I didn't think anyone else in the world was

plagued with this the way I was. IC I can honestly say hurts worse

than having a baby, and I've had 2! For me it was excruciating in a

different way... like nothing else I've ever experienced. Anyway,

after 10 years or so of enduring IC, the only thing that worked for me

was pregnancy and having kids! Sounds crazy but it worked. And I used

to have the episodes at least once a month, and that was with keeping

a constant prescription of trimethoprim (strongest med at the time)

whenever I felt the need. Absolutely nothing worked for me, until the

blessed event occurred. I had none during my pregnancy (what a

relief!) and none thereafter. YAY! But it hasn't been so long that I

don't remember... I know all too well what you're going through. I

will do my absolute best to send you healing energy in that regard,

and hope it will be received. Love and comfort to you also!

 

love & light ~Jen~

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Dear Jen:

 

Thanks so much for writing! It's so nice to be understood... about this (not to

mention the Kundalini).

 

Yes, it is a particularly nasty sort of pain, quite unlike anything else. I've

often thought I'd trade it for more severe pain in another body part, if I were

given a choice. Some kinds of pain are just a lot harder to endure than others.

And they won't give me any pain meds so I'm stuck with whatever diversions I can

devise.

 

Daytime, I don't do too badly and often don't really notice it much. But 5

minutes after I lay down to sleep... that's the toughest time.

 

So glad to hear it CAN go away. I think I'll pass on the having-a-baby cure

however since I'm childless and 49 years old. ;]

 

Alex

Jen <jenls505 wrote: Hi Alex,

 

Oh how I feel your pain! I didn't think anyone else in the world was

plagued with this the way I was. IC I can honestly say hurts worse

than having a baby, and I've had 2! For me it was excruciating in a

different way... like nothing else I've ever experienced. Anyway,

after 10 years or so of enduring IC, the only thing that worked for me

was pregnancy and having kids! Sounds crazy but it worked. And I used

to have the episodes at least once a month, and that was with keeping

a constant prescription of trimethoprim (strongest med at the time)

whenever I felt the need. Absolutely nothing worked for me, until the

blessed event occurred. I had none during my pregnancy (what a

relief!) and none thereafter. YAY! But it hasn't been so long that I

don't remember... I know all too well what you're going through. I

will do my absolute best to send you healing energy in that regard,

and hope it will be received. Love and comfort to you also!

 

love & light ~Jen~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Alexandria,

i can empathize with you on this one, I too have

suffered numerous disorders related to this area and

the two lower chakras.

Just when I think I'm getting somewhere and I should

be getting better, I have a flare up and it seemingly

gets worse.

One step forward, two steps back.

But, in truth this is not the casae, we are just

getting deeper and deeper into the issue ,I guess, and

drawing out all the pain we need to feel to get over

whatever we need to.

 

so, keep up the good work, it takes longer then we

anticipate at times, but we will get there.

Good luck and good health to you,

Elektra x x x

 

--- Alexandria <ladyinsubstance wrote:

 

> Hi group!

>

> My recent Kundalini re-awakening, as I call it, is

> (I think) involving

> some very specific pain and discomfort and I wanted

> to see if anyone

> had any ideas about what I can do about it.

>

> This is a little personal, but hey, you're all just

> little blips on my

> computer monitor, so what the hell...

>

> I've got a bladder condition that I've had since my

> teenage years

> called Interstitial Cystitis. It's a mysterious

> condition that causes

> frequent urges to urinate, discomfort and sometimes

> pain. It started

> flaring up some 6 months ago or so but suddenly is

> much worse. I have

> the nagging sense it is related to the K... that it

> involves something

> I am blocking.

>

> I watch my diet, avoid acidic foods, eat and drink

> things that are

> alkalizing (like watermelon) and drink a lot of

> water. These things

> help. Occasionally, I take muscle relaxers which

> are the only meds

> that ever help, aside from pain-killers.

>

> My (limited) understanding is that bladder issues

> relate to the second

> Chakra and sexual/creative issues. I've recently

> cleared a great deal

> of those (and quite powerfully I might add). I

> would have expected my

> symptoms to get better shortly thereafter, but

> instead I am much

> worse. I think there may yet be issues I am not

> aware of influencing

> me.

>

> I had a lot of sexual and creative repression in my

> early life (and I

> do mean a lot) and some mild sexual abuse as a

> pre-teen. I've done a

> LOT of work on those issues and have felt like I

> cleared the important

> stuff. But these symptoms seem to be telling me

> otherwise.

>

> I keep working on the psychological/emotional stuff

> myself, and

> somewhat with a coach and therapist but I was hoping

> someone here

> would have some insights into other ways of treating

> this.

>

> I've been trying kegels, but quite frankly, it feels

> a bit worse after

> I do those exercises. I also do a lot of

> visualizing and relaxing,

> all with little effect. Frankly, the more I work on

> it from whatever

> angle, the more pain I seem to have. But it's also

> impossible to ignore.

>

> It can be a pretty maddening condition and it

> interferes with sleep

> terribly. Some nights I am up every 15 minutes for

> hours at a time

> and can only catch snippets of sleep in between.

>

> Any ideas out there?

>

> Alex

 

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Alex, lol I knew having a baby probably wasn't in the cards, but just

wanted to mention that the problem did end for me at that point! I

forgot to mention that there is an over-the-counter med for pain (is

it called AZO maybe?) which helps some. It didn't come out until near

the end of my issue with IC, and never knocked out the pain

completely, but it was better than nothing... sort of took the edge

off if you know what I mean. I sincerely hope that through this group

and within yourself that you're able to get rid of this, so your life

can get back to normal. (Normal, what's that? hehe) You'll be in my

thoughts... love & light ~Jen~

 

, " P. Alexandria "

<ladyinsubstance wrote:

>

> Dear Jen:

>

> Thanks so much for writing! It's so nice to be understood... about

this (not to mention the Kundalini).

>

> Yes, it is a particularly nasty sort of pain, quite unlike anything

else. I've often thought I'd trade it for more severe pain in another

body part, if I were given a choice. Some kinds of pain are just a

lot harder to endure than others. And they won't give me any pain

meds so I'm stuck with whatever diversions I can devise.

>

> Daytime, I don't do too badly and often don't really notice it much.

But 5 minutes after I lay down to sleep... that's the toughest time.

>

> So glad to hear it CAN go away. I think I'll pass on the

having-a-baby cure however since I'm childless and 49 years old. ;]

>

> Alex

> Jen <jenls505 wrote: Hi Alex,

>

> Oh how I feel your pain! I didn't think anyone else in the world was

> plagued with this the way I was. IC I can honestly say hurts worse

> than having a baby, and I've had 2! For me it was excruciating in a

> different way... like nothing else I've ever experienced. Anyway,

> after 10 years or so of enduring IC, the only thing that worked for me

> was pregnancy and having kids! Sounds crazy but it worked. And I used

> to have the episodes at least once a month, and that was with keeping

> a constant prescription of trimethoprim (strongest med at the time)

> whenever I felt the need. Absolutely nothing worked for me, until the

> blessed event occurred. I had none during my pregnancy (what a

> relief!) and none thereafter. YAY! But it hasn't been so long that I

> don't remember... I know all too well what you're going through. I

> will do my absolute best to send you healing energy in that regard,

> and hope it will be received. Love and comfort to you also!

>

> love & light ~Jen~

>

>

 

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Life back to normal? hehe I would not know what that is. I have never felt

normal a single day that I can recall. ;]

 

The IC has been in my life about 35 years now, so in a way, that IS normal for

me, though the recent flare-up is disturbing and much longer and more severe

than any in the past.

 

I do have a sense that I can clear this but it is so very hard to be patient.

 

Thanks so much for writing!

 

Alex

 

 

 

Jen <jenls505 wrote: Alex, lol I

knew having a baby probably wasn't in the cards, but just

wanted to mention that the problem did end for me at that point! I

forgot to mention that there is an over-the-counter med for pain (is

it called AZO maybe?) which helps some. It didn't come out until near

the end of my issue with IC, and never knocked out the pain

completely, but it was better than nothing... sort of took the edge

off if you know what I mean. I sincerely hope that through this group

and within yourself that you're able to get rid of this, so your life

can get back to normal. (Normal, what's that? hehe) You'll be in my

thoughts... love & light ~Jen~

 

, " P. Alexandria "

<ladyinsubstance wrote:

>

> Dear Jen:

>

> Thanks so much for writing! It's so nice to be understood... about

this (not to mention the Kundalini).

>

> Yes, it is a particularly nasty sort of pain, quite unlike anything

else. I've often thought I'd trade it for more severe pain in another

body part, if I were given a choice. Some kinds of pain are just a

lot harder to endure than others. And they won't give me any pain

meds so I'm stuck with whatever diversions I can devise.

>

> Daytime, I don't do too badly and often don't really notice it much.

But 5 minutes after I lay down to sleep... that's the toughest time.

>

> So glad to hear it CAN go away. I think I'll pass on the

having-a-baby cure however since I'm childless and 49 years old. ;]

>

> Alex

> Jen <jenls505 wrote: Hi Alex,

>

> Oh how I feel your pain! I didn't think anyone else in the world was

> plagued with this the way I was. IC I can honestly say hurts worse

> than having a baby, and I've had 2! For me it was excruciating in a

> different way... like nothing else I've ever experienced. Anyway,

> after 10 years or so of enduring IC, the only thing that worked for me

> was pregnancy and having kids! Sounds crazy but it worked. And I used

> to have the episodes at least once a month, and that was with keeping

> a constant prescription of trimethoprim (strongest med at the time)

> whenever I felt the need. Absolutely nothing worked for me, until the

> blessed event occurred. I had none during my pregnancy (what a

> relief!) and none thereafter. YAY! But it hasn't been so long that I

> don't remember... I know all too well what you're going through. I

> will do my absolute best to send you healing energy in that regard,

> and hope it will be received. Love and comfort to you also!

>

> love & light ~Jen~

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Igor & Chrism:

 

I did feel quite a bit better last night than I had in several days at least,

after Igor did his " thing " . I then spent a good part of the night with some

rather fantastic energy surges, more intense than anything I have experienced

since childhood. For hours last night, my bladder symptoms would sort of spike

suddenly and then die off quickly... not sure what that was about.

 

I slept only 3 hours and then was up again with more energy surges this morning,

though less intense. My bladder symptoms are now a dull sort of aching... not

great but not as bad as it has been often lately.

 

Igor said he'd do another session and I will be calling him again tonight.

 

As to " other ways " , I certainly find I'm able to consider lots of possibilities

I'd have never thought logical or possible in the past. I feel more and more

every day that sense of surrender and the letting go of the necessity for a

particular outcome. I got to this place in great part I think because I finally

came to a time in my life where I knew the next step for me was acceptance, and

that applies to all areas of life. I accepted my Chronic Fatigue and it

immediately became easier to bear. It's a bit more of a challenge to accept the

IC... the pain and discomfort is of a very nagging sort. But I am working

towards that goal.

 

Thank you again for all the help.

 

Alex

 

 

 

chrism <> wrote: Yes I

understand. If you are ready to look at " other ways " and

surrender to the process of Kundalini, there are very few

limitations except what you put in the way of your recovery. Saying

that requires that I must say this.

 

" Any advice OR opinion(s) stated by " chrism " ,

is in no way

intended or to be construed or inferred or assumed or accepted as

medical advice

or the practice of medicine in any way. Nor is it intended or

expected by any

party, reading or informed of this opinion, in any way, to be

accepted or

considered, or interpreted as a cure for anything or anyone. Chrism

is stating

an opinion and any medical need or needs should be taken to a

qualified Medical

Doctor or another form of government sponsored and accepted format of

treatment. - " chrism " "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi there i did 2 sessions ........ ..the second this pm.

I think this effort should now go to the group under your direction.

Please note the energetic changes for Alex,as well as the physical spinal

condition

she decribes.

What Alex describes as the experience last night shows its energetic at least in

part.

this is all very new to her.

Im sure the Safeties and more are called for here.

Igor.

 

 

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ladyinsubstance: Fri, 18 May 2007 08:56:10 -0700Re:

Re: how to handle pain

 

 

 

 

Igor & Chrism:I did feel quite a bit better last night than I had in several

days at least, after Igor did his " thing " . I then spent a good part of the night

with some rather fantastic energy surges, more intense than anything I have

experienced since childhood. For hours last night, my bladder symptoms would

sort of spike suddenly and then die off quickly... not sure what that was about.

I slept only 3 hours and then was up again with more energy surges this morning,

though less intense. My bladder symptoms are now a dull sort of aching... not

great but not as bad as it has been often lately.Igor said he'd do another

session and I will be calling him again tonight.As to " other ways " , I certainly

find I'm able to consider lots of possibilities I'd have never thought logical

or possible in the past. I feel more and more every day that sense of surrender

and the letting go of the necessity for a particular outcome. I got to this

place in great part I think because I finally came to a time in my life where I

knew the next step for me was acceptance, and that applies to all areas of life.

I accepted my Chronic Fatigue and it immediately became easier to bear. It's a

bit more of a challenge to accept the IC... the pain and discomfort is of a very

nagging sort. But I am working towards that goal.Thank you again for all the

help.Alexchrism <> wrote: Yes I understand. If you are

ready to look at " other ways " and surrender to the process of Kundalini, there

are very few limitations except what you put in the way of your recovery. Saying

that requires that I must say this. " Any advice OR opinion(s) stated by " chrism "

, is in no wayintended or to be construed or inferred or

assumed or accepted as medical adviceor the practice of medicine in any way. Nor

is it intended or expected by anyparty, reading or informed of this opinion, in

any way, to be accepted orconsidered, or interpreted as a cure for anything or

anyone. is statingan opinion and any medical need or needs should be

taken to a qualified MedicalDoctor or another form of government sponsored and

accepted format oftreatment. - " chrism " " [Non-text portions

of this message have been removed]

 

 

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Alex,

 

Would you like any more of us on the list to send you healing or

prayers? Please just ask...! I think a number of us pray and send

energy daily. You are very inspiring, thanks so much for sharing with

us.

 

I'm sure you are on the right track now to helping clear up the

challenges of your condition. Some other options to consider might be

accupuncture, yoga, thai massage, and chiropractic treatment. Something

on some level might just need a slight shift in order to flow. Lots of

great people are on your side! Hang in there.

 

Peace be with you,

 

bradly

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Hi there Alex the many suggestions are great and good suggestions Bradly

.............But Alex ''not''Chiropractic please

your current spinal dynamics may be a contra-indication.

Igor.

 

 

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Re: how to handle pain

 

 

 

 

Alex,Would you like any more of us on the list to send you healing or prayers?

Please just ask...! I think a number of us pray and send energy daily. You are

very inspiring, thanks so much for sharing with us. I'm sure you are on the

right track now to helping clear up the challenges of your condition. Some other

options to consider might be accupuncture, yoga, thai massage, and chiropractic

treatment. Something on some level might just need a slight shift in order to

flow. Lots of great people are on your side! Hang in there.Peace be with

you,bradly

 

 

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