This information - some questions & Danni update

[Guest guest]

I am in process right now myself Jon, but I will give you my ten

cents! I love The Celestine Prophecy and think it is a great starting

point for spiritual journeys.

 

Glad to hear that Danni is doing better!

 

Sarita

 

, Jon Anderson

<janders1957 wrote:

>

> Well, I think it's most interesting where life has led me this

time...

> All this talk about massive changes in the near future coincide with

my

> own poorly defined sense that something is coming, something

unpleasant

> for many.

[Guest guest]

Jon,

i see ascension as the integration of all the lifetimes brought

together...all the wisdoms coming in...which I feel come through as one clears

ones space in this lifetime enough so that it can handle the higher energies of

these wisdoms.

I see it also as the balancing of our Divine spirit...with our physical

body. We learn as we walk in these lifetimes to balance our emotions...to

balance our love...our kindness...and all other things that go on within us. i

see the higher energies of love, joy, and peace as the way we move into

ascension...finding these things in ourselves...for they are the truth of who we

are really...when we reach down into our core beingness.

 

Adina

 

 

 

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, Jon Anderson

<janders1957 wrote:

>

> Well, I think it's most interesting where life has led me this

time...

> All this talk about massive changes in the near future coincide

with my

> own poorly defined sense that something is coming, something

unpleasant

> for many. First, this thread and the mention of ascension...

>

> Does one need to be working with, and have developed abilities

with

> Kundalini to be part of the ascension?

> Are those working with lower forms of enlightenment such as OBE to

be

> included?

 

@@ There are no " lower " forms of enlightenment. This is a quality

that steps right outside of duality. It " IS " and how you get there

is part of the process of your journey. You define it for yourself.

@@

 

Is it more more about a person's spirituality, as in loving others,

and

> spreading good will and good deeds?

 

@@ This is " a " path towards it yes. Particularly if the person is on

the Kundalini path. But as this path matures ones is taken off of

these aspects of the path and given another focus. To a large degree

one can pass right out of the mundane concerns of physical endeavor.

Not because of anything such as goodness or greatness, but more of

the idea that the job is done and its time to move on. @@

 

 

I've never quite believed the biblical version of the Rapture. I

used to

> work for a family owned business, they were hard HARD far right

wingers.

> Mere mention of anything psychic would have them checking me over

for

> horns and a tail.... When I asked them about the trashing of the

> planet, the attitude was " so what, we'll be taken out in the

Rapture and

> won't have to deal with it " I kid you not... I hardly believe a

God

> that could create such a beautiful world is going to reward those

with

> such a cavalier attitude toward it's upkeep. And these folks

practiced

> goodwill mostly among themselves, while taking pot shots at those

with

> differing beliefs.

> I cannot accept that's the measure by which the chosen few will

ascend.

 

@@ It isnt. @@

 

>

> As I mentioned in a previous post, I have trouble with my temper

when

> wronged, and this is something I've been starting to work on. I

don't

> like that aspect of myself.

> It would appear to be my biggest hurdle to overcome before

attempting to

> activate Kundalini.

 

@@ Just by being here in the energy of this group you are preparing

yourself and once again I would like to extend an invitation to

Danni to come and just read. Her privacy intact.@@

 

 

 

I just went on another book buying spree (as if I

> don't have enough stacked up waiting to be read), Kundalini and

the

> Chakras, A Practical Manual, Evolution in this Lifetime being one.

Is

> this a good book?

 

@@ If it is by Genevieve Lewis Paulson yes - though a bit technical

imho @@

 

Any others anyone would like to recommend? I also got

> The Celestine Prophecy and The Celestine Vision.

>

> Astral Dynamics is one I've just started, I really REALLY want to

> experience an OBE. Danni can do this at will, and I would love to

hook

> up with her on the astral, as a face to face meeting is unlikely

before

> the end of the year.

 

@@ I dont know what he proposes but if it works for you then great!

I have found with the OBE, perserverence in the continued attempts

is going to get you the rewards of experience @@

 

 

 

>

> I seek growth, and perhaps Kundalini, not out of fear, as with

people

> who go to church " just to be safe " , rather, it's a reawakening of

> interests that have lain dormant for a couple decades. Been too

many

> things happening this last 18 months to ignore, and I believe I am

being

> drawn toward something I should have been working on all along.

 

@@ You are welcome to start here Jon. At your own speed and in your

own good time @@

 

I don't

> like where I see this world heading, and I've never felt a part of

it,

> never felt I really belonged here.

>

> Danni and I had our weekly phone call today. She still has a

lingering

> shadow in one lung, so will be on IV antibiotics for a few days.

She

> says TA to everyone for the prayers. I was talking to her about

the

> 11:11 phenomenon, and was not the least surprised that she's

experienced

> this for years also! She thought it beyond coincidence, but didn't

know

> the significance. I have ordered the Akashic Construct CD and

look

> forward to working with that.

>

> So, would like to solicit suggestions for reading, and perhaps a

general

> suggestion what aspects of spiritual growth I might best focus on

right now.

 

@@ I suggest you read the safeties and make it a priority to

practice them in your life in real time @@

 

 

I do know where I don't want to be in a few years. I feel time is

short

> and I have a long way to go....

 

@@ You are a good and kind and considerate person so you dont have

so far to go and regardless of the world there is no rush. Be

thorough and go slow. Begin today and start to narrow your focus

with in the idea of seeing others as yourself. And in doing that

extending a forgiveness based on " Ive done that to someone before so

I can forgive this one for doing that " Try the five Tibetans but

start slow with no more than six repetitions. Do this every day and

feel what areas begin to open up for you. - blessings Jon - chrism

>

> Thank you all,

>

> Jon

>

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chrism wrote:

 

>@@ There are no " lower " forms of enlightenment. This is a quality

>that steps right outside of duality. It " IS " and how you get there

>is part of the process of your journey. You define it for yourself.

>@@

>

>

I'm a more visual person. So, different aspects of enlightenment is

something akin to visiting a single floor museum, and moving about

studying the various exhibits?

No vertical strata, just a broadening of knowledge?

 

 

>@@ Just by being here in the energy of this group you are preparing

>yourself and once again I would like to extend an invitation to

>Danni to come and just read. Her privacy intact.@@

>

>

I sent you her email privately, I will encourage her to follow through

and join up.

 

 

>@@ If it is by Genevieve Lewis Paulson yes - though a bit technical

>imho @@

>

>

That's the one. Technical is fine with me, I'm a very technically

oriented person... <G>

 

 

>@@ I suggest you read the safeties and make it a priority to

>practice them in your life in real time @@

>

>

I will do so.

 

 

>@@ Begin today and start to narrow your focus

>with in the idea of seeing others as yourself. And in doing that

>extending a forgiveness based on " Ive done that to someone before so

>I can forgive this one for doing that " Try the five Tibetans but

>start slow with no more than six repetitions. Do this every day and

>feel what areas begin to open up for you.

>

Will do this also. Question, how young can these activities be started?

Danni told me recently that she came to visit in spirit, and when she

showed up here, my daughter Laura, sharply turned her head and looked

directly at Danni! Laura is not comfortable with conventional religion,

and has expressed her interest several times in spiritual matters. I

think she's pretty sensitive and gifted.

 

Then too, in a psychic reading last year (where I was told Danni and I

are twin souls), was also told my son Kevin is an Indigo child, and one

of my primary tasks with him is to counter his mother's traditional

religious beliefs. It was explained this would suppress his development.

He exhibits unusual sensitivity, empathy, and insight. He's overcome

PDD/NOS (autistic spectrum 'disorder') and attends school like any other

kid. He's asked some questions about some of the books I've been

reading. So, wonder, treading lightly to avoid causing major issues with

their mother, is there any reason I cannot begin to open them up to some

of this? Oh, not necessarily Kundalini... but, maybe?

Needless to say, this is something of a minefield regarding both of my

children.

 

Thank you kindly for your input

 

Jon

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Question, how young can these activities be started?

 

@@ Kids are much more open to this and do not need a Kundalini event

to occur before they are able to interact. There is no real age

limitation as people come into life with different agendas and if

that agenda is for a Kundalini event to occur at a young age then so

be it. @@

 

> Danni told me recently that she came to visit in spirit, and when

she

> showed up here, my daughter Laura, sharply turned her head and

looked

> directly at Danni! Laura is not comfortable with conventional

religion,

> and has expressed her interest several times in spiritual

matters.

 

@@ She knows or senses that you are coming or have come to different

conclusions than her mother. She is reaching out to encounter

information that is more appropriate for her. I would encourage this

exploration " with " her meaning under your strict guidance.

 

I am not one for seeing many psychics even though I have that skill

and maybe because of that I do not feel that many psychics are able

to discern a truth given from the astral from a lie given from the

astral. Most just are not in touch that way and must trust what

comes through as being a fact whether it is or not. So I do not

advise this avenue of exploration with her or your son and I only

mention it here as you have stated your visitations to one.

 

This is what I mean by your strict guidance. Not a psychics guidance

and I mean no disrespect towards any psychic.

 

Get them a book called " A wrinkle in Time " . Read it to them if that

is comfortable for you and them. Also you can make allusion to

Kundalini as being an aspect of the " Holy Ghost " or the " Holy

Spirit " as this is the truth. -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I

> think she's pretty sensitive and gifted.

>

> Then too, in a psychic reading last year (where I was told Danni

and I

> are twin souls), was also told my son Kevin is an Indigo child,

and one

> of my primary tasks with him is to counter his mother's

traditional

> religious beliefs. It was explained this would suppress his

development.

> He exhibits unusual sensitivity, empathy, and insight. He's

overcome

> PDD/NOS (autistic spectrum 'disorder') and attends school like any

other

> kid. He's asked some questions about some of the books I've been

> reading. So, wonder, treading lightly to avoid causing major

issues with

> their mother, is there any reason I cannot begin to open them up

to some

> of this? Oh, not necessarily Kundalini... but, maybe?

> Needless to say, this is something of a minefield regarding both

of my

> children.

>

> Thank you kindly for your input

>

> Jon

>