Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Dearest Glen, every time I see through your eyes I feel things change in me. Thank you for sharing your self with us. Love, dhyana --- Glen Olah <gleno wrote: > An easy way to help yourself to forgive is to simply > go one step > further and have compassion for the person instead. > This will allow a > genuine forgiveness to flow from you more naturally. > Allow me to explain… > > <snip> " The thief who was driving laughingly admitted > to his partner > that he ran her down on purpose. This is difficult > to forgive. " </snip> > > The implications of what this man did are going to > hit him like a ton > of bricks. Put yourself in his position and now let > it dawn on you > what you have caused through choices you made. How > awful what awaits > this man. The agonizing he will endure to learn his > lessons. Very > probably such crucial lessons to this persons > evolution that they are > unlikely to occur in this life. It could be the > entire purpose behind > a complete different incarnation to work through the > implications of > this one choice. My heart goes out to this poor soul > and all that > awaits him. No doubt the dharma and karma are > already beginning to > manifest. > > It is always this way. There is no good and bad, no > right or wrong – > only the implications of ones choice. > > Of course there are more correct choices as we move > closer to > realization. And I have always been of the opinion > that awareness > limits choice. To be aware of the correct choice yet > choose an > alternative is to exponentially generate negative > energies connected > to the consequences of that decision. > > I choose love and the choices manifested thereof… > > Love to you all, glen o. > > > --- In > , > " crazycats711 " > <crazycats711 wrote: > > > > I guess I can tell about mine, too. I have had two > of my siblings > > murdered. My sister was only 16 years old. She was > raped and killed, > > but the constable of the little town in which we > lived reported it as > > a suicide, but of course we all new better and so > did he. The killer > > and rapist was left free and almost did the same > to another sister, > > but she was smart and took no chances and had > pistol with her at the > > time. It scared the man so bad he had a heart > attack, right there in > > front of her. She went to get help, but he was > dead by the time the > > time they got there. My youngest brother and the > sister that was > > mudered, were very close. He blame himself for > what happened (that he > > wasn't there to protect her) and had mental > problems after that. > > About 20 years ago he walked away from all family > and became a > > homeless person. He was found dead/murdered in a > parking lot in Fort > > Worth. His killer got away free, as well. I would > say it effected > > that youngest sister very much too, to be carrying > a gun around with > > her. They both could have used some counciling for > sure, but my > > parents were not so well off to afford that. That > youngest sister > > died when she when she was only about 22, I think > it was. She died of > > chicken pox going to her lungs. That's another sad > story in itself. > > She left behind a two year old daughter. Right > now, I am the only one > > in the family that this daughter stays in contact > with. It's a sad > > situation. My family has a lot of problems. > > > > I have had dream visits from all three of them. I > know they are all > > doing well and are OK now. That does helps in > being able to forgive > > all that were involved in what took place. > > > > Blessings > > > > CC > > > > > > > > --- In > , > Elektra Fire > > <elektra.fire@> wrote: > > > > > > What a touching story, seems like many of us > here have > > > been touched by murder, death and accidents. > > > Kenny sounds like a wondeful boy, but then > again, it's > > > always the good ones it seems. > > > The three people I've lost in sad circumstances > were > > > all amazing people, young and vibrant, full of > joy. > > > I think that heaven sometimes needs some extra > angels > > > and so takes the best ones!!! > > > My heart is with you and his family, you are > very > > > brave and so is his mother it seems. > > > What a blessing that his mum was able to speak > with > > > him, this must bring a great deal of comfort to > her. > > > Thankyou for sharing your story about Kenny with > us, > > > when we forgive we bring peace to those who have > > > passed over also I believe. > > > > > > Big hug Elektra x x x > > > > > > --- Claudia Lambright <newtfoodbowl@> wrote: > > > > > > > My 21-year-old nephew (Kenny) and his > roommate/best > > > > friend (Thomas) were murdered in a robbery > attempt > > > > in > > > > their home 5 years ago July 26. Another > friend > > > > (John) > > > > was staying at the house at the time, and he > > > > narrowly > > > > escaped being shot. The three of them had > walked to > > > > a > > > > nearby convenience store to get some beer; in > the > > > > convenience store, a friendly conversation had > > > > started > > > > up with some other boys there. The five young > men > > > > left the store together, and Kenny and Thomas > > > > invited > > > > the strangers to their house, where they sat > on the > > > > porch and drank a beer. The strangers left, > and > > > > eventually Kenny, Thomas & John went to sleep. > > > > > Around > > > > 2 a.m., the strangers came back, broke into > their > > > > house, and ordered then to sit on the porch > while > > > > they > > > > helped themselves to their belongings. They > took > > > > $20 > > > > from one of the boys, which was all the cash > the > > > > three > > > > of them had. They came upon Kenny's DVD > player and > > > > Kenny heard them talking about it from the > porch. > > > > He > > > > walked into the house and asked them not to > take his > > > > DVD player. One of the strangers lost it and > shot > > > > Kenny. Thomas ran in to check on his best > friend > > > > when > > > > he heard the shots and the strangers shot him. > John > > > > dove behind the sofa as more shots were fired > while > > > > the strangers were running out of the house. > John > > > > went to Kenny and Thomas; Kenny was already > dead and > > > > Thomas died shortly thereafter. > > > > > > > > The strangers were caught and identified by > John; > > > > they > > > > are now in prison for life...one was 21 and > the > > > > other, > > > > the shooter, was 17. They killed two young > men for > > > > $20. > > > > > > > > Kenny was an absolute angel. He was easy > going and > > > > friendly and loved to laugh. He made friends > easily > > > > and always had a smile on his face. He was > the kind > > > > of kid who would hug his parents and aunts and > tell > > > > them that he loved them. He is missed so > much! > > > > > > > > Kenny had been talking a lot to his mother > before > > > > his > > > > death about God and had started to go to > church with > > > > her. The day before Kenny died, his mother > prayed > > > > that God would give Kenny some sort of > confirmation > > > > that He is real. Kenny appeared to his mother > the > > > > day > > > > after he died and told her 'There IS a God! > This > > > > place is awesome!' He told her that he was > fine and > > > > that he had forgiven the killer. His mother > had > > > > some > > > > terrifying thoughts right after he was killed > that > > > > she > > > > had somehow invited God to take Kenny in order > to > > > > answer her prayer, but of course, that is not > the > > > > case. She accepts his death and tells me that > she > > > > speaks with him often. My brother, Kenny's > father, > > > > had a terribly hard time with Kenny's > death...he was > > > > their youngest. But he told the judge in the > murder > > > > trial that he was not in favor of the shooter > > > > getting > > > > the death sentence. > > > > > > > > Forgiveness can be an excruiciating challenge. > But > > > > it > > > > is absolutely necessary if we are to be > spiritually > > > > free, IMHO. For me, the fact that Kenny was > able > > > > immediately to forgive the person who so > > > > thoughtlessly > > > > took his young life speaks volumes about > ascendance. > > > > > > > > > > > > God bless you, Ron. > > > > > > > > Blessings & love, > > > > Claudia > > > > > > > > --- Katherine Miller <katsam19@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Rod, I know where you are coming from. My > son was > > > > > hit when he was 4 years old and although it > was > > > > not > > > > > intentional, what upset me the most is that > the > > > > guy > > > > > used his past position as a police officer > to > > > > excuse > > > > > his driving. He was going 45 in a 15 mph > speed > > > > zone. > > > > > After hitting my child he stopped the > vehicle and > > > > go > > > > > out screaming, I wasn't speeding I am an > ex-police > > > > > officer and I wouldn't speed over and over > again. > > > > He > > > > > was more concerned with letting people know > that > > > > > rather than worrying about my 4 year old > laying in > > > > > the road. Then a couple of weeks later I was > out > > > > in > > > > > the yard and I saw this same guy speeding > down the > > > > > road once again, clearly not going the speed > > > > limit. > > > > > Anyway, it is hard to forgive and especially > if > > > > you > > > > > know that person did something on purpose to > hurt > > > > > someone you love, but you are strong and > better > > > > than > > > > > that person. Look deep within you and allow > > > > yourself > > > > > to let it go so that you can forgive him. > May > > > > peace > > > > > be with you and your wife! > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > Katherine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rodneyderbyshire > > > > > <rodneyderbyshire@> > > > > > To: > > > > > > Monday, May 28, 2007 7:37:17 PM > > > > > > > > > forgiveness > > > > > > > > > > Hi group > > > > > I am struggling with forgiving,I have gone > back > > > > > through my life > > > > > and forgiven everything that needs > forgiving. > > > > > My problem is that I can forgive now this > minute > > > > and > > > > > really mean > > > > > it.Tomorrow I will think of one particular > > > > incident, > > > > > and I will get > > > > > angry and want revenge or justice.Briefly, > my wife > > > > > was run down by two > > > > > car thieves as they were getting away.These > things > > > > > happen aqnd I can > > > > > forgive them.What I struggle with is, the > owner of > > > > > the car was on his > > > > > car phone when they dragged him out,and his > boss > > > > > taped their > > > > > conversation as they drove away.The thief > who was > > > > > driving laughingly > > > > > admitted to his partner that he ran her down > on > > > > > purpose.This is > > > > > difficult to forgive.I ask myself what will > my > > > > > reactions be if I EVER > > > > > FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE.I would like to think > that I > > > > > would tell them > > > > > that we forgive them,genuinly. > > > > > When I see her limping,I think bad thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > Love > > > > > Rod > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____Building a website is a piece of cake. 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