Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Hi Tiffany, Never ever pretend something didn't happen. Learn to be 100% honest with others first then it becomes possible to be 100% honest with yourself. And then everything is in the open, nothing is hidden, all is on the table to be dealt with from an honest perspective. No hidden agendas lurking in dark corners to confuse your judgements. Rather than squinting to avoid viewing the full issue your vision clears and one " rises above " the situation and sees it for what it is. Just my take. Lots of love to you, glen o. , " tiffmidngtwilo " <tiffmidngtwilo wrote: > > Forgiving isn't my specialties. I wouldn't be able to be so kind. I > spent my whole life pretending nothing happened and only now i'm able > to accept that what did happen happened and i can't change that. > Forgiving seems impossable right now. How do people handle these > things, let go... Have the strength to do that? I try and somedays I > can but other days not so good. Like with friends the little things i > can get over and accept happened but then trust becomes the issue. > How can you trust or is it okay not to trust those who have hurt you? > But then how can you forgive them? And then if you forgive it becomes > denial sometimes. Sorry! I didn't mean to toss my self out there in > the middle of the converstations. It's just so hard to forgive some > people. I admire those who can, but feel some people shouldn't be > forgiven at least by me. > Tiffany > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Why does trust become an issue? Everything comes down to choice; if one chooses to continue associating with someone they can no longer " trust " within certain parameters then one must be prepared to suffer the consequences of that choice. It is impossible to blame the other for the the consequences of ones choice. We all manifest the circumstances creating our reality through our individual choice. imho. Like with friends the little things i > > can get over and accept happened but then trust becomes the issue. > > How can you trust or is it okay not to trust those who have hurt you? > > But then how can you forgive them? And then if you forgive it becomes > > denial sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Hi Tiffiny, I think it would be quite helpful for you to connect to your higher self in meditation and talk through your upsets with your higher self and ask for some help so you may go inside and do some healing, you can trust your higher self and im positive you will be surpised with the answers you get. I hope you move on soon. Blessings Karen Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " i_ama_lighthouse " <i_ama_lighthouse wrote: > > Hi there. Good for you that you are trying! This is the first step. > > Also, you will realize that what others think of 'you' does not > matter. You must be happy with yourself regardless of what others > think of you. You are a beautiful person, just remember that! > > Blessings, > > Leslie > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " tiffmidngtwilo " <tiffmidngtwilo@> wrote: > > > > I agree i do it can just be so hard sometimes. Anyways i've been > > trying but other people tend to view it as making excuses for > getting > > upset too easily. People i've met have always viewed my personality > > and my depression as me being a baby or making my self out to be a > > victum. They were parcially right but i dissagree. I was trying to > > confront my issues and my past and those who have hurt me. By them > > getting annoyed with me it was only causing me to repress those > > issues and pretend i was okay for there sake. I had a friend > > litterally tell me she doesn't want to be around me anymore because > > she was sick of hearing it. However i rarely/barely brought it up > > because i already knew she didn't want to hear it. Well i'm no > longer > > friends with her because of it. I decided she was making me worse > and > > putting me down for wanting to get better even though she wanted me > > to feel better too but as long as it didn't involve her. She also > > thought she had to make me better or something like that. Don't > quite > > understand how she could of but all i wanted was a friend to talk > to > > not a theropist or whatever she wanted to be to me. anyways that is > > just babbling right now. Point is it can be hard to forgive and > > forget and let go and trust again. I don't know what i have to do > or > > how far yet i have to go but i do know i will get there when i get > > there. That the universe God, Goddess, spirit... everything will > open > > doors close doors and i will find myself on the path or paths i > need > > to be on. I realize that if i don't see the door i need open > infront > > of me it is because i'm not ready to go through. Patience i have > some > > for this but not for other things. I have been more confident and > > strong over the past 7 months. I intend to get stronger and more > > confident till i can turn around and see who i was and realize i > > should of tried harder a long time ago. I was weak making excuses > > alowing my past to control me, my pain to push me down. I have many > > more steps to take but i am ready for the challenges as they > > come...lol > > thanks for listening... > > Tiffany > > > > , " Glen Olah " > > <gleno@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Tiffany, > > > > > > Never ever pretend something didn't happen. Learn to be 100% > honest > > > with others first then it becomes possible to be 100% honest with > > > yourself. And then everything is in the open, nothing is hidden, > all > > > is on the table to be dealt with from an honest perspective. No > > hidden > > > agendas lurking in dark corners to confuse your judgements. Rather > > > than squinting to avoid viewing the full issue your vision clears > > and > > > one " rises above " the situation and sees it for what it is. > > > > > > Just my take. Lots of love to you, glen o. > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > > 1 , " tiffmidngtwilo " > > > <tiffmidngtwilo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Forgiving isn't my specialties. I wouldn't be able to be so > kind. > > I > > > > spent my whole life pretending nothing happened and only now > i'm > > able > > > > to accept that what did happen happened and i can't change > that. > > > > Forgiving seems impossable right now. How do people handle > these > > > > things, let go... Have the strength to do that? I try and > > somedays I > > > > can but other days not so good. Like with friends the little > > things i > > > > can get over and accept happened but then trust becomes the > > issue. > > > > How can you trust or is it okay not to trust those who have > hurt > > you? > > > > But then how can you forgive them? And then if you forgive it > > becomes > > > > denial sometimes. Sorry! I didn't mean to toss my self out > there > > in > > > > the middle of the converstations. It's just so hard to forgive > > some > > > > people. I admire those who can, but feel some people shouldn't > be > > > > forgiven at least by me. > > > > Tiffany > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Okay that makes me want to ask how do i connect with my higher self other then meditation cause that always gets interrupted and you know what my higher self gets me into trouble. More like my inner bad Tiff actually. I get all kinds of ideas from meditation bad ideas...lol not that bad. I tell my self to fallow my heart... Go after what i want but what i want could hurt other people. Like say leaving my husband and not working it out with him. Well i tried that it didn't work at all.... Instead i got lonely... and really depressed now i'm not as lonely and annoyed. And my innerself still says the same thing go after my desires and let go of the past....yada yada I don't think my higher self is reasonable....That is why new idea i will stick it out until i figure out what i'm doing...lol... Last time i meditated after that i got the notion to do a friendship prayer/spell and i got all kinds of friends but in the end they turned out to be backstabbing phonies and now i have none..well actually three aquaintences but thats all. See bad Tiff.... So maybe that isn't my higher self just my a little higher self... uhg!!! Fullmoon good for recieving messages maybe i can get some healing help or something i haven't thought about it. I usually am on top of things but lately i just let things come to me cause i don't know what else to do. Tiffany , " Karen Pickering " <karen_pckrng wrote: > > > Hi Tiffiny, > I think it would be quite helpful for you to connect to your higher > self in meditation and talk through your upsets with your higher > self and ask for some help so you may go inside and do some healing, > you can trust your higher self and im positive you will be surpised > with the answers you get. > I hope you move on soon. > Blessings > Karen > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " i_ama_lighthouse " <i_ama_lighthouse@> wrote: > > > > Hi there. Good for you that you are trying! This is the first step. > > > > Also, you will realize that what others think of 'you' does not > > matter. You must be happy with yourself regardless of what others > > think of you. You are a beautiful person, just remember that! > > > > Blessings, > > > > Leslie > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > > 1 , " tiffmidngtwilo " <tiffmidngtwilo@> wrote: > > > > > > I agree i do it can just be so hard sometimes. Anyways i've been > > > trying but other people tend to view it as making excuses for > > getting > > > upset too easily. People i've met have always viewed my > personality > > > and my depression as me being a baby or making my self out to be > a > > > victum. They were parcially right but i dissagree. I was trying > to > > > confront my issues and my past and those who have hurt me. By > them > > > getting annoyed with me it was only causing me to repress those > > > issues and pretend i was okay for there sake. I had a friend > > > litterally tell me she doesn't want to be around me anymore > because > > > she was sick of hearing it. However i rarely/barely brought it > up > > > because i already knew she didn't want to hear it. Well i'm no > > longer > > > friends with her because of it. I decided she was making me > worse > > and > > > putting me down for wanting to get better even though she wanted > me > > > to feel better too but as long as it didn't involve her. She > also > > > thought she had to make me better or something like that. Don't > > quite > > > understand how she could of but all i wanted was a friend to > talk > > to > > > not a theropist or whatever she wanted to be to me. anyways that > is > > > just babbling right now. Point is it can be hard to forgive and > > > forget and let go and trust again. I don't know what i have to > do > > or > > > how far yet i have to go but i do know i will get there when i > get > > > there. That the universe God, Goddess, spirit... everything will > > open > > > doors close doors and i will find myself on the path or paths i > > need > > > to be on. I realize that if i don't see the door i need open > > infront > > > of me it is because i'm not ready to go through. Patience i have > > some > > > for this but not for other things. I have been more confident > and > > > strong over the past 7 months. I intend to get stronger and more > > > confident till i can turn around and see who i was and realize i > > > should of tried harder a long time ago. I was weak making > excuses > > > alowing my past to control me, my pain to push me down. I have > many > > > more steps to take but i am ready for the challenges as they > > > come...lol > > > thanks for listening... > > > Tiffany > > > > > > , " Glen > Olah " > > > <gleno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Tiffany, > > > > > > > > Never ever pretend something didn't happen. Learn to be 100% > > honest > > > > with others first then it becomes possible to be 100% honest > with > > > > yourself. And then everything is in the open, nothing is > hidden, > > all > > > > is on the table to be dealt with from an honest perspective. > No > > > hidden > > > > agendas lurking in dark corners to confuse your judgements. > Rather > > > > than squinting to avoid viewing the full issue your vision > clears > > > and > > > > one " rises above " the situation and sees it for what it is. > > > > > > > > Just my take. Lots of love to you, glen o. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > > > 1 , " tiffmidngtwilo " > > > > <tiffmidngtwilo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Forgiving isn't my specialties. I wouldn't be able to be so > > kind. > > > I > > > > > spent my whole life pretending nothing happened and only now > > i'm > > > able > > > > > to accept that what did happen happened and i can't change > > that. > > > > > Forgiving seems impossable right now. How do people handle > > these > > > > > things, let go... Have the strength to do that? I try and > > > somedays I > > > > > can but other days not so good. Like with friends the little > > > things i > > > > > can get over and accept happened but then trust becomes the > > > issue. > > > > > How can you trust or is it okay not to trust those who have > > hurt > > > you? > > > > > But then how can you forgive them? And then if you forgive > it > > > becomes > > > > > denial sometimes. Sorry! I didn't mean to toss my self out > > there > > > in > > > > > the middle of the converstations. It's just so hard to > forgive > > > some > > > > > people. I admire those who can, but feel some people > shouldn't > > be > > > > > forgiven at least by me. > > > > > Tiffany > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Tiffany, My dear lady, you are not bad,we all have thoughts that arent so great or kind at times,your higher self would not tell you to do or say unkind things, there seems to be other interference in your thought process, if you dont feel comfortable with meditation as k before you go to sleep at night for healing and answers, a lot can happen while your body sleeps. I understand the descisions in your life are very hard for you to make right no,take your time. You have friends here and when you are ready you will find some worthy ones, at present it seems to me you are clearing a lot of things/people/emotions from your life to make way for the new, when we resist these changes they are made harder. Please feel free to talk to me at anytime, if you just want me to listen,then thats what i will do. I will help as best i can ok. Karen Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " tiffmidngtwilo " <tiffmidngtwilo wrote: > > Okay that makes me want to ask how do i connect with my higher self > other then meditation cause that always gets interrupted and you know > what my higher self gets me into trouble. More like my inner bad Tiff > actually. I get all kinds of ideas from meditation bad ideas...lol > not that bad. I tell my self to fallow my heart... Go after what i > want but what i want could hurt other people. Like say leaving my > husband and not working it out with him. Well i tried that it didn't > work at all.... Instead i got lonely... and really depressed now i'm > not as lonely and annoyed. And my innerself still says the same thing > go after my desires and let go of the past....yada yada I don't think > my higher self is reasonable....That is why new idea i will stick it > out until i figure out what i'm doing...lol... Last time i meditated > after that i got the notion to do a friendship prayer/spell and i got > all kinds of friends but in the end they turned out to be > backstabbing phonies and now i have none..well actually three > aquaintences but thats all. See bad Tiff.... So maybe that isn't my > higher self just my a little higher self... uhg!!! Fullmoon good for > recieving messages maybe i can get some healing help or something i > haven't thought about it. I usually am on top of things but lately i > just let things come to me cause i don't know what else to do. > Tiffany > > > , " Karen > Pickering " <karen_pckrng@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Tiffiny, > > I think it would be quite helpful for you to connect to your higher > > self in meditation and talk through your upsets with your higher > > self and ask for some help so you may go inside and do some > healing, > > you can trust your higher self and im positive you will be surpised > > with the answers you get. > > I hope you move on soon. > > Blessings > > Karen > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > > 1 , " i_ama_lighthouse " <i_ama_lighthouse@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi there. Good for you that you are trying! This is the first > step. > > > > > > Also, you will realize that what others think of 'you' does not > > > matter. You must be happy with yourself regardless of what others > > > think of you. You are a beautiful person, just remember that! > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > > Leslie > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > > > 1 , " tiffmidngtwilo " <tiffmidngtwilo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree i do it can just be so hard sometimes. Anyways i've > been > > > > trying but other people tend to view it as making excuses for > > > getting > > > > upset too easily. People i've met have always viewed my > > personality > > > > and my depression as me being a baby or making my self out to > be > > a > > > > victum. They were parcially right but i dissagree. I was trying > > to > > > > confront my issues and my past and those who have hurt me. By > > them > > > > getting annoyed with me it was only causing me to repress those > > > > issues and pretend i was okay for there sake. I had a friend > > > > litterally tell me she doesn't want to be around me anymore > > because > > > > she was sick of hearing it. However i rarely/barely brought it > > up > > > > because i already knew she didn't want to hear it. Well i'm no > > > longer > > > > friends with her because of it. I decided she was making me > > worse > > > and > > > > putting me down for wanting to get better even though she > wanted > > me > > > > to feel better too but as long as it didn't involve her. She > > also > > > > thought she had to make me better or something like that. Don't > > > quite > > > > understand how she could of but all i wanted was a friend to > > talk > > > to > > > > not a theropist or whatever she wanted to be to me. anyways > that > > is > > > > just babbling right now. Point is it can be hard to forgive and > > > > forget and let go and trust again. I don't know what i have to > > do > > > or > > > > how far yet i have to go but i do know i will get there when i > > get > > > > there. That the universe God, Goddess, spirit... everything > will > > > open > > > > doors close doors and i will find myself on the path or paths i > > > need > > > > to be on. I realize that if i don't see the door i need open > > > infront > > > > of me it is because i'm not ready to go through. Patience i > have > > > some > > > > for this but not for other things. I have been more confident > > and > > > > strong over the past 7 months. I intend to get stronger and > more > > > > confident till i can turn around and see who i was and realize > i > > > > should of tried harder a long time ago. I was weak making > > excuses > > > > alowing my past to control me, my pain to push me down. I have > > many > > > > more steps to take but i am ready for the challenges as they > > > > come...lol > > > > thanks for listening... > > > > Tiffany > > > > > > > > , " Glen > > Olah " > > > > <gleno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Tiffany, > > > > > > > > > > Never ever pretend something didn't happen. Learn to be 100% > > > honest > > > > > with others first then it becomes possible to be 100% honest > > with > > > > > yourself. And then everything is in the open, nothing is > > hidden, > > > all > > > > > is on the table to be dealt with from an honest perspective. > > No > > > > hidden > > > > > agendas lurking in dark corners to confuse your judgements. > > Rather > > > > > than squinting to avoid viewing the full issue your vision > > clears > > > > and > > > > > one " rises above " the situation and sees it for what it is. > > > > > > > > > > Just my take. Lots of love to you, glen o. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > > > > 1 , " tiffmidngtwilo " > > > > > <tiffmidngtwilo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgiving isn't my specialties. I wouldn't be able to be so > > > kind. > > > > I > > > > > > spent my whole life pretending nothing happened and only > now > > > i'm > > > > able > > > > > > to accept that what did happen happened and i can't change > > > that. > > > > > > Forgiving seems impossable right now. How do people handle > > > these > > > > > > things, let go... Have the strength to do that? I try and > > > > somedays I > > > > > > can but other days not so good. Like with friends the > little > > > > things i > > > > > > can get over and accept happened but then trust becomes the > > > > issue. > > > > > > How can you trust or is it okay not to trust those who have > > > hurt > > > > you? > > > > > > But then how can you forgive them? And then if you forgive > > it > > > > becomes > > > > > > denial sometimes. Sorry! I didn't mean to toss my self out > > > there > > > > in > > > > > > the middle of the converstations. It's just so hard to > > forgive > > > > some > > > > > > people. I admire those who can, but feel some people > > shouldn't > > > be > > > > > > forgiven at least by me. > > > > > > Tiffany > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 With all the talk of forgivimg and being forgiven. I think this simple prayer covers both without conflicting with anyones religious beliefs. John Colanzi Huna Prayer by Max Freedom Long If I have hurt someone today With thought or word or deed, Or failed another in his need, I now repent. If I can take those steps again, Tomorrow will I make amends And heal with love those hurts. I do this pledge. And if a hurt has struck me deep And no amends are made, I ask the light to balance all. I count the debt as paid. Parental Spirits whom I love, And who I know love me, Reach through the door I open wide. Make clear my path to Thee. So Mote it Be! ______________________________\ ____ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 John, this prayer brought tears to my eyes. thank you...i am keeping it. Adina Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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