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Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 wow....your asking a lot here. I mean where do I start and if I tell you that, then I am telling you all about me! We haven't even had dinner yet! Ok. Here's my story. I am a healer (in training to an extent). I have worked in the holistic health industry for around 8 years or so. I realized very early on that my passion is for energetic medicine and I have studied that intensely for many years as well. Energy is not something I am unfamiliar with. My intuition is MUCH clearer. It no longer is a question of " if I can " or the lack of trusting myself. Now I am certain and clear and unafraid to say it as I see it so to speak. I trust my intuition much more than ever before in my life. My connection with source is powerful and it is through my heart. My heart chakra has been going through a HUGE opening over the last year, when at times it feels as though it is breaking so hard that I cannot bear the pain. All of us sensitive folk have been going through major chakra adjustments this last year because the earth is shifting at a rate that our bodies cannot seem to keep up with. Thank fully I have a dear friend / old teacher who is an intuitive healer / energy worker. I can call on her when I am out of balance and she will make the adjustments to my chakras as needed. My 5th, 6th and 7th have been big ones for me this year. My sensitivity to food is incredible. I have always been sensitive, but now my body is no longer asking, it requires live whole foods that are as close to unhampered as possible or else I get sick or have some type of allergy issue. One of the best things to have emerged very recently is my body's desire to MOVE!! Once I received this information I didn't hesitate. I got into a gym, got a trainer, and started moving a lot. Lately I have been learning a lot about myself through movement. To put all this in to a bit of perspective for you, I used to be a serious smoker / coffee drinker / junk food addict......who's only exercise was getting up to walk to my car to drive somewhere. I come from a family with similar traits. So as you can imagine, quitting these things and changing my patterns and addictions was no small task. But I would receive the information about when to begin and it was like nothing could stop me. I smoked from 14 till 27. I am vastly approaching 31. That, I believe, was one of the first steps in bringing me to that dream because I could feel how the smoking was numbing my emotions and ability to feel. Then after that it was coffee. That was after the dream though. Essentially my body wants rid of all stimulants. I have been through many transformations. I am like an onion, constantly emerging with a new layer. I can feel and have always felt like I am on my way somewhere really big. Or at least what my conscious deems as big. These are just a few things that have happened. I mean recalling the past year and what I have been through is no small task. If you knew me well, you would be saying what all of my close friend's say which is that they can't believe the transformation I have made. I went from working at a health food store for six years to taking a serious leap of faith and trusting my guidance and quitting in order to start my own business. (that is one of the things my body was trying to tell me last year at my birthday, by the way). Just recently I had my hair cut. It was down to butt and now it is up to my shoulders. That was a huge piece for me too because I could literally feel 2 1/2 years of old energy sticking on me in my hair and I never realized it till I had it cut. I'm not sure how I feel about the do itself, but what matters to me right now is how free I feel. It's wild. I have a friend who is a thirteenth generation herbalist. She lived in India for many years with a guru there whose name escapes me. One day when we were visiting, she recalled to me a dream she had that was very powerful. I then felt it appropriate to share my dream with her as it was powerful in a similar way. She said that what happened to her in India with a guru was exactly what happened to me in my dream. She called it shaktipat. She showed me a picture that was taken of her and several other women with the guru while they were in this state. THEN, that same weekend I met with my friend Lex and another friend to celebrate Lex's birthday. At some point Lex tells me about a dream group he is part of. I said that I thought that was interesting because I have a lot of psychic dreams. He said like what? So again, my dream comes up in a conversation. To my surprise Lex says the same thing to me - that it sounds like I had shaktipat. So by this time I was totally trippen out. I asked Lex to tell me what he knows about it. Then several days later he tells me I should join this and that I could learn more here. I find it interesting that this dream comes up so much later and I had no clue what it was about at the time. I found a book called energies of transformation that is also opening my eyes to a lot. Ok, so I told you that you were in for it. I hope everyone likes to read. Cause I definitely like to write. haha Love to you all. , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Before I do that, please tell me how this has changed your life on a > physical level? - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Thank you Elyes for sharing with me the fruit of your experience. I feel we have now dined together! I will give you my take on your dream. I feel that what you received was an anointing. A Chrismming. A point in your journey that was and is a threshold event that will propel one through the doorway into the next great experience(s). I feel that since this dream you have been slowly but surely directed to the Kundalini. That you have received activation for it to a degree I feel is clear, yet a larger flow is available to be had by you " now " in this present real time. You received the liquid at your sixth chakra or upon the forehead as you state and it spread all over from that point. This can be seen and interpreted as a form of Shaktipat except that Shaktipat is typically given from a consciousness to a consciousness or body to body. The liquid can be seen as such but why would this be hidden in the form of a liquid? The whole ceremonial feel of the event is reminding me of what an anointing ceremony would be. The liquid can be seen as an infusion to your astral body, and as this is in contact with the physical certain aspects and intuitions will come forth. Now you can seriously look at awakening the Kundalini at your base and following its course through the physical being. Marrying it to the chrismming (anointing) and all the other bodies. - my take Elyes - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Wow, that's a great story! Congrats on the transformation! I love to read,(so, no problems there)and I love to write even more, so I guess we're just two peas in a pod. hehe! Welcome, Tara , " flamingbuddahgirl " <flamingbuddahgirl wrote: > > wow....your asking a lot here. I mean where do I start and if I tell > you that, then I am telling you all about me! We haven't even had > dinner yet! > > Ok. Here's my story. I am a healer (in training to an extent). I have > worked in the holistic health industry for around 8 years or so. I > realized very early on that my passion is for energetic medicine and I > have studied that intensely for many years as well. Energy is not > something I am unfamiliar with. > > My intuition is MUCH clearer. It no longer is a question of " if I can " > or the lack of trusting myself. Now I am certain and clear and > unafraid to say it as I see it so to speak. I trust my intuition much > more than ever before in my life. My connection with source is > powerful and it is through my heart. My heart chakra has been going > through a HUGE opening over the last year, when at times it feels as > though it is breaking so hard that I cannot bear the pain. All of us > sensitive folk have been going through major chakra adjustments this > last year because the earth is shifting at a rate that our bodies > cannot seem to keep up with. Thank fully I have a dear friend / old > teacher who is an intuitive healer / energy worker. I can call on her > when I am out of balance and she will make the adjustments to my > chakras as needed. My 5th, 6th and 7th have been big ones for me this > year. > > My sensitivity to food is incredible. I have always been sensitive, > but now my body is no longer asking, it requires live whole foods that > are as close to unhampered as possible or else I get sick or have some > type of allergy issue. > > One of the best things to have emerged very recently is my body's > desire to MOVE!! Once I received this information I didn't hesitate. I > got into a gym, got a trainer, and started moving a lot. Lately I have > been learning a lot about myself through movement. > > To put all this in to a bit of perspective for you, I used to be a > serious smoker / coffee drinker / junk food addict......who's only > exercise was getting up to walk to my car to drive somewhere. I come > from a family with similar traits. So as you can imagine, quitting > these things and changing my patterns and addictions was no small > task. But I would receive the information about when to begin and it > was like nothing could stop me. I smoked from 14 till 27. I am vastly > approaching 31. That, I believe, was one of the first steps in > bringing me to that dream because I could feel how the smoking was > numbing my emotions and ability to feel. Then after that it was > coffee. That was after the dream though. Essentially my body wants rid > of all stimulants. I have been through many transformations. I am like > an onion, constantly emerging with a new layer. I can feel and have > always felt like I am on my way somewhere really big. Or at least what > my conscious deems as big. > > These are just a few things that have happened. I mean recalling the > past year and what I have been through is no small task. If you knew > me well, you would be saying what all of my close friend's say which > is that they can't believe the transformation I have made. I went from > working at a health food store for six years to taking a serious leap > of faith and trusting my guidance and quitting in order to start my > own business. (that is one of the things my body was trying to tell me > last year at my birthday, by the way). Just recently I had my hair > cut. It was down to butt and now it is up to my shoulders. That was a > huge piece for me too because I could literally feel 2 1/2 years of > old energy sticking on me in my hair and I never realized it till I > had it cut. I'm not sure how I feel about the do itself, but what > matters to me right now is how free I feel. It's wild. > > I have a friend who is a thirteenth generation herbalist. She lived in > India for many years with a guru there whose name escapes me. One day > when we were visiting, she recalled to me a dream she had that was > very powerful. I then felt it appropriate to share my dream with her > as it was powerful in a similar way. She said that what happened to > her in India with a guru was exactly what happened to me in my dream. > She called it shaktipat. She showed me a picture that was taken of her > and several other women with the guru while they were in this state. > THEN, that same weekend I met with my friend Lex and another friend to > celebrate Lex's birthday. At some point Lex tells me about a dream > group he is part of. I said that I thought that was interesting > because I have a lot of psychic dreams. He said like what? So again, > my dream comes up in a conversation. To my surprise Lex says the same > thing to me - that it sounds like I had shaktipat. So by this time I > was totally trippen out. I asked Lex to tell me what he knows about > it. Then several days later he tells me I should join this > and that I could learn more here. > > I find it interesting that this dream comes up so much later and I had > no clue what it was about at the time. I found a book called energies > of transformation that is also opening my eyes to a lot. > > Ok, so I told you that you were in for it. I hope everyone likes to > read. Cause I definitely like to write. haha > > Love to you all. > > , " chrism " > <@> wrote: > > > > Before I do that, please tell me how this has changed your life on a > > physical level? - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 WOw, ok.... there's something. A few things actually. So now some questions / comments... I resonate with the concept that the experience I had some how groomed me for an even larger awakening possibly the kundalini. This makes sense to me as my life is as I said, ever shifting and transforming and quickly to boot. I am curious as to what you mean in regards to an annointing (ceremony). I would like to know if you could elaborate on that, like what exactly is an annointing AND I would like to know why you used your name (chrism) in this context? Are they the same meaning? Also, by what do you mean when you say that shaktipat needs to be from consciousness to consciousness. Clearly you mean from person to person, but why is that a must, or as you said typical? Like if it is only typical, what are the other ways it can come? My herbalist friend whom I told you about that had this experience, felt certain that I have teachers in another existance who did this for me. That somewhat resonated for me as well. Again, I am not resigned to any one idea. Just trying to hear everyone and learn more. Some of the terminoligies you are describing to me are relatively foreign. Also it is in my nature to challenge thoughts and ideas because I feel that through this process I can become more aware of my own truth. Also, what does this mean " infusion to your astral body " ? Do you mean my etheral body? Is this to say that my etheral body has been joined with my physical body in some way? I can percieve this as a necessary step to my process. And finally, what exactly is the reason I should want my kundalini awakened? Is this something that will happen naturally as this dream did? Whats the story here? The benefits and so on. Many blessings to you as well and thank you for the dialog. Elyse , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Thank you Elyes for sharing with me the fruit of your experience. I > feel we have now dined together! > > I will give you my take on your dream. > > I feel that what you received was an anointing. A Chrismming. A point > in your journey that was and is a threshold event that will propel > one through the doorway into the next great experience(s). I feel > that since this dream you have been slowly but surely directed to the > Kundalini. That you have received activation for it to a degree I > feel is clear, yet a larger flow is available to be had by you " now " > in this present real time. > > You received the liquid at your sixth chakra or upon the forehead as > you state and it spread all over from that point. This can be seen > and interpreted as a form of Shaktipat except that Shaktipat is > typically given from a consciousness to a consciousness or body to > body. The liquid can be seen as such but why would this be hidden in > the form of a liquid? The whole ceremonial feel of the event is > reminding me of what an anointing ceremony would be. > > The liquid can be seen as an infusion to your astral body, and as > this is in contact with the physical certain aspects and intuitions > will come forth. Now you can seriously look at awakening the > Kundalini at your base and following its course through the physical > being. Marrying it to the chrismming (anointing) and all the other > bodies. - my take Elyes - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Thanks Tara! Glad to hear it! I definately need more peas in my pod Elyse , " Tara " <tjmassage7777 wrote: > > Wow, that's a great story! > Congrats on the transformation! > I love to read,(so, no problems there)and I love to write even more, so > I guess we're just two peas in a pod. hehe! > Welcome, > Tara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > " flamingbuddahgirl " <flamingbuddahgirl@> wrote: > > > > wow....your asking a lot here. I mean where do I start and if I tell > > you that, then I am telling you all about me! We haven't even had > > dinner yet! > > > > Ok. Here's my story. I am a healer (in training to an extent). I have > > worked in the holistic health industry for around 8 years or so. I > > realized very early on that my passion is for energetic medicine and I > > have studied that intensely for many years as well. Energy is not > > something I am unfamiliar with. > > > > My intuition is MUCH clearer. It no longer is a question of " if I can " > > or the lack of trusting myself. Now I am certain and clear and > > unafraid to say it as I see it so to speak. I trust my intuition much > > more than ever before in my life. My connection with source is > > powerful and it is through my heart. My heart chakra has been going > > through a HUGE opening over the last year, when at times it feels as > > though it is breaking so hard that I cannot bear the pain. All of us > > sensitive folk have been going through major chakra adjustments this > > last year because the earth is shifting at a rate that our bodies > > cannot seem to keep up with. Thank fully I have a dear friend / old > > teacher who is an intuitive healer / energy worker. I can call on her > > when I am out of balance and she will make the adjustments to my > > chakras as needed. My 5th, 6th and 7th have been big ones for me this > > year. > > > > My sensitivity to food is incredible. I have always been sensitive, > > but now my body is no longer asking, it requires live whole foods that > > are as close to unhampered as possible or else I get sick or have some > > type of allergy issue. > > > > One of the best things to have emerged very recently is my body's > > desire to MOVE!! Once I received this information I didn't hesitate. I > > got into a gym, got a trainer, and started moving a lot. Lately I have > > been learning a lot about myself through movement. > > > > To put all this in to a bit of perspective for you, I used to be a > > serious smoker / coffee drinker / junk food addict......who's only > > exercise was getting up to walk to my car to drive somewhere. I come > > from a family with similar traits. So as you can imagine, quitting > > these things and changing my patterns and addictions was no small > > task. But I would receive the information about when to begin and it > > was like nothing could stop me. I smoked from 14 till 27. I am vastly > > approaching 31. That, I believe, was one of the first steps in > > bringing me to that dream because I could feel how the smoking was > > numbing my emotions and ability to feel. Then after that it was > > coffee. That was after the dream though. Essentially my body wants rid > > of all stimulants. I have been through many transformations. I am like > > an onion, constantly emerging with a new layer. I can feel and have > > always felt like I am on my way somewhere really big. Or at least what > > my conscious deems as big. > > > > These are just a few things that have happened. I mean recalling the > > past year and what I have been through is no small task. If you knew > > me well, you would be saying what all of my close friend's say which > > is that they can't believe the transformation I have made. I went from > > working at a health food store for six years to taking a serious leap > > of faith and trusting my guidance and quitting in order to start my > > own business. (that is one of the things my body was trying to tell me > > last year at my birthday, by the way). Just recently I had my hair > > cut. It was down to butt and now it is up to my shoulders. That was a > > huge piece for me too because I could literally feel 2 1/2 years of > > old energy sticking on me in my hair and I never realized it till I > > had it cut. I'm not sure how I feel about the do itself, but what > > matters to me right now is how free I feel. It's wild. > > > > I have a friend who is a thirteenth generation herbalist. She lived in > > India for many years with a guru there whose name escapes me. One day > > when we were visiting, she recalled to me a dream she had that was > > very powerful. I then felt it appropriate to share my dream with her > > as it was powerful in a similar way. She said that what happened to > > her in India with a guru was exactly what happened to me in my dream. > > She called it shaktipat. She showed me a picture that was taken of her > > and several other women with the guru while they were in this state. > > THEN, that same weekend I met with my friend Lex and another friend to > > celebrate Lex's birthday. At some point Lex tells me about a dream > > group he is part of. I said that I thought that was interesting > > because I have a lot of psychic dreams. He said like what? So again, > > my dream comes up in a conversation. To my surprise Lex says the same > > thing to me - that it sounds like I had shaktipat. So by this time I > > was totally trippen out. I asked Lex to tell me what he knows about > > it. Then several days later he tells me I should join this > > and that I could learn more here. > > > > I find it interesting that this dream comes up so much later and I had > > no clue what it was about at the time. I found a book called energies > > of transformation that is also opening my eyes to a lot. > > > > Ok, so I told you that you were in for it. I hope everyone likes to > > read. Cause I definitely like to write. haha > > > > Love to you all. > > > > , " chrism " > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > Before I do that, please tell me how this has changed your life on a > > > physical level? - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Hello Elyes, please see below separated by @@ Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " flamingbuddahgirl " <flamingbuddahgirl wrote: > > WOw, ok.... there's something. A few things actually. > > So now some questions / comments... > > I resonate with the concept that the experience I had some how groomed > me for an even larger awakening possibly the kundalini. This makes > sense to me as my life is as I said, ever shifting and transforming > and quickly to boot. > > I am curious as to what you mean in regards to an annointing > (ceremony). I would like to know if you could elaborate on that, like > what exactly is an annointing AND I would like to know why you used > your name (chrism) in this context? Are they the same meaning? @@ Chrismming is another term, for an anointing. I use chrism because of my first name christopher and the initial of my last name mitchell. But in the Christian belief systmes it means an annointing as a way of initiation into a new life or experience here is the Wikipedia version, please note I am not forcing the Christian belief system into this only using this term as it applies to initiation - " (Greek word literally meaning " an anointing " ), also called " Myrrh (Myron), " " Holy Oil, " or " Consecrated Oil, " is a consecrated oil used in the Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox churches, in the Assyrian Church of the East, in the Old-Catholic churches, and in Roman Catholic, Anglican and Lutheran churches in the administration of certain sacraments and ecclesiastical functions. Pure or scented olive oil used by other Christian denominations, although typically not called today, have been called Chrism in the past. This includes oil used by Protestants and Restorationists in some forms of Baptism, Confirmation, Anointing of the Sick and Feet washing. In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter- day Saints or Mormons, was historically used in some of their temple ordinances. Multiple early Christian documents discuss the " ordinance " or " several ceremonies...explained in the Apostolical Constitutions " of " chrism, " including documents by Theophilus and Tertullian. The most detailed version of the practice is by Cyril of Jerusalem who details how ointment or oil was " symbolically applied to thy forehead, and thy other organs of sense " and that the " ears, nostrils, and breast were each to be anointed. " Cyril states that the " ointment is the seal of the covenants " of baptism and God's promises to the Christian who is anointed. Cyril taught that being " anointed with the oil [Chrism] of God " was the sign of a Christian, and a physical representation of having the Gift of the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost), and it retains this meaning in Catholicism and Orthodoxy today. " Also, by what do you mean when you say that shaktipat needs to be from > consciousness to consciousness. Clearly you mean from person to > person, but why is that a must, or as you said typical? Like if it is > only typical, what are the other ways it can come? @@ Yes I did write " typical " meaning to imply there are other ways. I do not mean specifically from person to person. I mean consciousness to consciousness. I do mean to imply that the body is consciousness and or a collection of consciousness. Shaktpat is given in different ways. It is also recieved in different formats. Hands on a body from an awakened one to one not so. Standing in the energetic radiance of one who is Kundalini active and depending on your own ability to surrender and recieve will determine the level of transference for you. Shaktipat from spiritual source also occurs. Though I do not feel that occurred with you. I have had this and it goes on inside the normal waking experience. I do not put any limitation upon what " can " occur I can only relate to you what I know has occurred. An accident (car) can activate a person by crushing the coxxyx and releasing the Kundalini, severe emotional duress can activate a person. Drugs or entheogenic use of certain plants and mushrooms, NDE's can act as a formulae for activation as can what will be happening HERE on the twenty first. lol @@ My herbalist friend > whom I told you about that had this experience, felt certain that I > have teachers in another existance who did this for me. That somewhat > resonated for me as well. Again, I am not resigned to any one idea. > Just trying to hear everyone and learn more. Some of the terminoligies > you are describing to me are relatively foreign. Also it is in my > nature to challenge thoughts and ideas because I feel that through > this process I can become more aware of my own truth. > > Also, what does this mean " infusion to your astral body " ? @@ The anointing infused your dream body, otherwise known as an " astral " body. @@ Do you mean > my etheral body? @@ No not the ethereal as I know that to be but now we are splitting hairs with terminology. I will just call it one of the energetic bodies.@@ Is this to say that my etheral body has been joined > with my physical body in some way? @@ I understand the ethereal to always be joined as are all the other energetic expressions of the Human system. @@ I can percieve this as a necessary > step to my process. > > And finally, what exactly is the reason I should want my kundalini > awakened? @@ I could give you many reasons and have on this group but for you I feel it is important that you come up with the answer for that as your priorities are yours alone and Kundalini is such a path that you can gain most benefit by sourcing yourself and coming to a determination about how " you " wish to proceed rather than reading a list of positive reasons from me. It isnt always easy. And if you walk outside the safeties it can be quite dangerous. So you should feel and think this through for yourself. @@ Is this something that will happen naturally as this dream > did? @@ It could @@ Whats the story here? @@ The story is your story. @@ The benefits and so on. @@ The benefits and the challenges are steep on both ends of the scale. Read for a time here. Go to the website http://kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com and do some research. Feel the pros and cons and listen to what your guidance tells you. - blessings Elyse @@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Chris, You are very sweet. Thank you for taking the time with me and my questions. I can feel your passion for this subject matter and your desire to educate and inform. I can recognize these qualities within you as they match mine and my desires for the world. There is something very familiar about you that I haven't put my finger on yet. And for now I will rest in this new awareness. I need to digest and absorb all that I have learned. Thank you again for your passion. Clearly the world will and is a better place because of it and you. In loving light, Elyse , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Hello Elyes, please see below separated by @@ > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " flamingbuddahgirl " <flamingbuddahgirl@> wrote: > > > > WOw, ok.... there's something. A few things actually. > > > > So now some questions / comments... > > > > I resonate with the concept that the experience I had some how > groomed > > me for an even larger awakening possibly the kundalini. This makes > > sense to me as my life is as I said, ever shifting and transforming > > and quickly to boot. > > > > I am curious as to what you mean in regards to an annointing > > (ceremony). I would like to know if you could elaborate on that, > like > > what exactly is an annointing AND I would like to know why you used > > your name (chrism) in this context? Are they the same meaning? > > @@ Chrismming is another term, for an anointing. I use chrism > because of my first name christopher and the initial of my last name > mitchell. But in the Christian belief systmes it means an annointing > as a way of initiation into a new life or experience here is the > Wikipedia version, please note I am not forcing the Christian belief > system into this only using this term as it applies to initiation - > > " (Greek word literally meaning " an anointing " ), also > called " Myrrh (Myron), " " Holy Oil, " or " Consecrated Oil, " is a > consecrated oil used in the Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox > churches, in the Assyrian Church of the East, in the Old-Catholic > churches, and in Roman Catholic, Anglican and Lutheran churches in > the administration of certain sacraments and ecclesiastical > functions. > > Pure or scented olive oil used by other Christian denominations, > although typically not called today, have been called Chrism > in the past. This includes oil used by Protestants and > Restorationists in some forms of Baptism, Confirmation, Anointing of > the Sick and Feet washing. In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter- > day Saints or Mormons, was historically used in some of their > temple ordinances. > > Multiple early Christian documents discuss the " ordinance " > or " several ceremonies...explained in the Apostolical Constitutions " > of " chrism, " including documents by Theophilus and Tertullian. The > most detailed version of the practice is by Cyril of Jerusalem who > details how ointment or oil was " symbolically applied to thy > forehead, and thy other organs of sense " and that the " ears, > nostrils, and breast were each to be anointed. " Cyril states that > the " ointment is the seal of the covenants " of baptism and God's > promises to the Christian who is anointed. Cyril taught that > being " anointed with the oil [Chrism] of God " was the sign of a > Christian, and a physical representation of having the Gift of the > Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost), and it retains this meaning in Catholicism > and Orthodoxy today. " > > > Also, by what do you mean when you say that shaktipat needs to be > from > > consciousness to consciousness. Clearly you mean from person to > > person, but why is that a must, or as you said typical? Like if it > is > > only typical, what are the other ways it can come? > > @@ Yes I did write " typical " meaning to imply there are other ways. > I do not mean specifically from person to person. I mean > consciousness to consciousness. I do mean to imply that the body is > consciousness and or a collection of consciousness. Shaktpat is > given in different ways. It is also recieved in different formats. > > Hands on a body from an awakened one to one not so. Standing in the > energetic radiance of one who is Kundalini active and depending on > your own ability to surrender and recieve will determine the level > of transference for you. Shaktipat from spiritual source also > occurs. > > Though I do not feel that occurred with you. I have had this and it > goes on inside the normal waking experience. I do not put any > limitation upon what " can " occur I can only relate to you what I > know has occurred. An accident (car) can activate a person by > crushing the coxxyx and releasing the Kundalini, severe emotional > duress can activate a person. Drugs or entheogenic use of certain > plants and mushrooms, NDE's can act as a formulae for activation as > can what will be happening HERE on the twenty first. lol @@ > > > My herbalist friend > > whom I told you about that had this experience, felt certain that I > > have teachers in another existance who did this for me. That > somewhat > > resonated for me as well. Again, I am not resigned to any one idea. > > Just trying to hear everyone and learn more. Some of the > terminoligies > > you are describing to me are relatively foreign. Also it is in my > > nature to challenge thoughts and ideas because I feel that through > > this process I can become more aware of my own truth. > > > > Also, what does this mean " infusion to your astral body " ? > > @@ The anointing infused your dream body, otherwise known as > an " astral " body. @@ > > Do you mean > > my etheral body? > > @@ No not the ethereal as I know that to be but now we are splitting > hairs with terminology. I will just call it one of the energetic > bodies.@@ > > Is this to say that my etheral body has been joined > > with my physical body in some way? > > @@ I understand the ethereal to always be joined as are all the > other energetic expressions of the Human system. @@ > > I can percieve this as a necessary > > step to my process. > > > > And finally, what exactly is the reason I should want my kundalini > > awakened? > > @@ I could give you many reasons and have on this group but for you > I feel it is important that you come up with the answer for that as > your priorities are yours alone and Kundalini is such a path that > you can gain most benefit by sourcing yourself and coming to a > determination about how " you " wish to proceed rather than reading a > list of positive reasons from me. It isnt always easy. And if you > walk outside the safeties it can be quite dangerous. So you should > feel and think this through for yourself. @@ > > Is this something that will happen naturally as this dream > > did? > > @@ It could @@ > > Whats the story here? > > @@ The story is your story. @@ > > The benefits and so on. > > @@ The benefits and the challenges are steep on both ends of the > scale. Read for a time here. Go to the website > > http://kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com > > and do some research. Feel the pros and cons and listen to what your > guidance tells you. - blessings Elyse @@ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 It's funny Elyse, your reaction reminds me a lot of mine at the beginning. It seemed every hour I had new questions and when the energy started building in my tailbone and my body started humming I said " What the heck is this!? " I was frightened of the implications and some of the things I read on the internet fueled that. I am happy to say that I quickly settled in and am no longer apprehensive. All of us here are very lucky and blessed. To be chosen to experience this, to have the benefit of each others' knowledge and experiences, to have a gentle leader like to guide us. There is no place like this and helps us to experience this in a gentler way with the Safeties. I'll bet that very soon you will feel at home too. Both inside yourself and as a vital part of the group. Sarita Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " flamingbuddahgirl " <flamingbuddahgirl wrote: > > Chris, > > You are very sweet. Thank you for taking the time with me and my > questions. I can feel your passion for this subject matter and your > desire to educate and inform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 I have never heard of someone receiving dream time shaktipat, wow, fascinating. I don't mind your long posts at all, they are very interesting to read. Somethings need a long post , you can't explain in depth otherwise Peace and love Elektra x x x _________ Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd./evt=44106/*http://uk.docs./mail/winter07.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 Hello flamingbuddahgirl, Friday, June 1, 2007, 3:20:19 PM, you wrote: f> wow....your asking a lot here. I mean where do I start and if I tell f> you that, then I am telling you all about me! We haven't even had f> dinner yet! f> Ok. Here's my story. I am a healer (in training to an extent). I have f> worked in the holistic health industry for around 8 years or so. I f> realized very early on that my passion is for energetic medicine and I f> have studied that intensely for many years as well. Energy is not f> something I am unfamiliar with. f> My intuition is MUCH clearer. It no longer is a question of " if I can " f> or the lack of trusting myself. Now I am certain and clear and f> unafraid to say it as I see it so to speak. I trust my intuition much f> more than ever before in my life. My connection with source is f> powerful and it is through my heart. My heart chakra has been going f> through a HUGE opening over the last year, when at times it feels as f> though it is breaking so hard that I cannot bear the pain. All of us f> sensitive folk have been going through major chakra adjustments this f> last year because the earth is shifting at a rate that our bodies f> cannot seem to keep up with. Thank fully I have a dear friend / old f> teacher who is an intuitive healer / energy worker. I can call on her f> when I am out of balance and she will make the adjustments to my f> chakras as needed. My 5th, 6th and 7th have been big ones for me this f> year. f> My sensitivity to food is incredible. I have always been sensitive, f> but now my body is no longer asking, it requires live whole foods that f> are as close to unhampered as possible or else I get sick or have some f> type of allergy issue. f> One of the best things to have emerged very recently is my body's f> desire to MOVE!! Once I received this information I didn't hesitate. I f> got into a gym, got a trainer, and started moving a lot. Lately I have f> been learning a lot about myself through movement. f> To put all this in to a bit of perspective for you, I used to be a f> serious smoker / coffee drinker / junk food addict......who's only f> exercise was getting up to walk to my car to drive somewhere. I come f> from a family with similar traits. So as you can imagine, quitting f> these things and changing my patterns and addictions was no small f> task. But I would receive the information about when to begin and it f> was like nothing could stop me. I smoked from 14 till 27. I am vastly f> approaching 31. That, I believe, was one of the first steps in f> bringing me to that dream because I could feel how the smoking was f> numbing my emotions and ability to feel. Then after that it was f> coffee. That was after the dream though. Essentially my body wants rid f> of all stimulants. I have been through many transformations. I am like f> an onion, constantly emerging with a new layer. I can feel and have f> always felt like I am on my way somewhere really big. Or at least what f> my conscious deems as big. f> These are just a few things that have happened. I mean recalling the f> past year and what I have been through is no small task. If you knew f> me well, you would be saying what all of my close friend's say which f> is that they can't believe the transformation I have made. I went from f> working at a health food store for six years to taking a serious leap f> of faith and trusting my guidance and quitting in order to start my f> own business. (that is one of the things my body was trying to tell me f> last year at my birthday, by the way). Just recently I had my hair f> cut. It was down to butt and now it is up to my shoulders. That was a f> huge piece for me too because I could literally feel 2 1/2 years of f> old energy sticking on me in my hair and I never realized it till I f> had it cut. I'm not sure how I feel about the do itself, but what f> matters to me right now is how free I feel. It's wild. f> I have a friend who is a thirteenth generation herbalist. She lived in f> India for many years with a guru there whose name escapes me. One day f> when we were visiting, she recalled to me a dream she had that was f> very powerful. I then felt it appropriate to share my dream with her f> as it was powerful in a similar way. She said that what happened to f> her in India with a guru was exactly what happened to me in my dream. f> She called it shaktipat. She showed me a picture that was taken of her f> and several other women with the guru while they were in this state. f> THEN, that same weekend I met with my friend Lex and another friend to f> celebrate Lex's birthday. At some point Lex tells me about a dream f> group he is part of. I said that I thought that was interesting f> because I have a lot of psychic dreams. He said like what? So again, f> my dream comes up in a conversation. To my surprise Lex says the same f> thing to me - that it sounds like I had shaktipat. So by this time I f> was totally trippen out. I asked Lex to tell me what he knows about f> it. Then several days later he tells me I should join this f> and that I could learn more here. f> I find it interesting that this dream comes up so much later and I had f> no clue what it was about at the time. I found a book called energies f> of transformation that is also opening my eyes to a lot. f> Ok, so I told you that you were in for it. I hope everyone likes to f> read. Cause I definitely like to write. haha f> Love to you all. f> , " chrism " f> <> wrote: >> >> Before I do that, please tell me how this has changed your life on a >> physical level? - >> Thank you that was interesting sharing. -- Best regards, rr mechtech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 Elektra, I recieved my first encounters with Shaktipat in dreamtime, although I didn't know it was called this. That was in 2000. Another time in 2001 there were two blissful nights, with the most beautiful angelic womans voice I had ever heard in the wee hours of the dawns...she said... " you will have many nights like these " . I remember these in the wee hours of the night last night...when it began happening within me again. Not as intense this time. Adina Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 Hello Tara, Friday, June 1, 2007, 4:36:48 PM, you wrote: T> Wow, that's a great story! T> Congrats on the transformation! T> I love to read,(so, no problems there)and I love to write even more, so T> I guess we're just two peas in a pod. hehe! T> Welcome, T> Tara We are all like ripples on the ocean created by the wind of thoughts. Still the thoughts and the ripples sink back into the ocean. T> , T> " flamingbuddahgirl " <flamingbuddahgirl wrote: >> >> wow....your asking a lot here. I mean where do I start and if I tell >> you that, then I am telling you all about me! We haven't even had >> dinner yet! >> >> Ok. Here's my story. I am a healer (in training to an extent). I have >> worked in the holistic health industry for around 8 years or so. I >> realized very early on that my passion is for energetic medicine and I >> have studied that intensely for many years as well. Energy is not >> something I am unfamiliar with. >> >> My intuition is MUCH clearer. It no longer is a question of " if I can " >> or the lack of trusting myself. Now I am certain and clear and >> unafraid to say it as I see it so to speak. I trust my intuition much >> more than ever before in my life. My connection with source is >> powerful and it is through my heart. My heart chakra has been going >> through a HUGE opening over the last year, when at times it feels as >> though it is breaking so hard that I cannot bear the pain. All of us >> sensitive folk have been going through major chakra adjustments this >> last year because the earth is shifting at a rate that our bodies >> cannot seem to keep up with. Thank fully I have a dear friend / old >> teacher who is an intuitive healer / energy worker. I can call on her >> when I am out of balance and she will make the adjustments to my >> chakras as needed. My 5th, 6th and 7th have been big ones for me this >> year. >> >> My sensitivity to food is incredible. I have always been sensitive, >> but now my body is no longer asking, it requires live whole foods that >> are as close to unhampered as possible or else I get sick or have some >> type of allergy issue. >> >> One of the best things to have emerged very recently is my body's >> desire to MOVE!! Once I received this information I didn't hesitate. I >> got into a gym, got a trainer, and started moving a lot. Lately I have >> been learning a lot about myself through movement. >> >> To put all this in to a bit of perspective for you, I used to be a >> serious smoker / coffee drinker / junk food addict......who's only >> exercise was getting up to walk to my car to drive somewhere. I come >> from a family with similar traits. So as you can imagine, quitting >> these things and changing my patterns and addictions was no small >> task. But I would receive the information about when to begin and it >> was like nothing could stop me. I smoked from 14 till 27. I am vastly >> approaching 31. That, I believe, was one of the first steps in >> bringing me to that dream because I could feel how the smoking was >> numbing my emotions and ability to feel. Then after that it was >> coffee. That was after the dream though. Essentially my body wants rid >> of all stimulants. I have been through many transformations. I am like >> an onion, constantly emerging with a new layer. I can feel and have >> always felt like I am on my way somewhere really big. Or at least what >> my conscious deems as big. >> >> These are just a few things that have happened. I mean recalling the >> past year and what I have been through is no small task. If you knew >> me well, you would be saying what all of my close friend's say which >> is that they can't believe the transformation I have made. I went from >> working at a health food store for six years to taking a serious leap >> of faith and trusting my guidance and quitting in order to start my >> own business. (that is one of the things my body was trying to tell me >> last year at my birthday, by the way). Just recently I had my hair >> cut. It was down to butt and now it is up to my shoulders. That was a >> huge piece for me too because I could literally feel 2 1/2 years of >> old energy sticking on me in my hair and I never realized it till I >> had it cut. I'm not sure how I feel about the do itself, but what >> matters to me right now is how free I feel. It's wild. >> >> I have a friend who is a thirteenth generation herbalist. She lived in >> India for many years with a guru there whose name escapes me. One day >> when we were visiting, she recalled to me a dream she had that was >> very powerful. I then felt it appropriate to share my dream with her >> as it was powerful in a similar way. She said that what happened to >> her in India with a guru was exactly what happened to me in my dream. >> She called it shaktipat. She showed me a picture that was taken of her >> and several other women with the guru while they were in this state. >> THEN, that same weekend I met with my friend Lex and another friend to >> celebrate Lex's birthday. At some point Lex tells me about a dream >> group he is part of. I said that I thought that was interesting >> because I have a lot of psychic dreams. He said like what? So again, >> my dream comes up in a conversation. To my surprise Lex says the same >> thing to me - that it sounds like I had shaktipat. So by this time I >> was totally trippen out. I asked Lex to tell me what he knows about >> it. Then several days later he tells me I should join this >> and that I could learn more here. >> >> I find it interesting that this dream comes up so much later and I had >> no clue what it was about at the time. I found a book called energies >> of transformation that is also opening my eyes to a lot. >> >> Ok, so I told you that you were in for it. I hope everyone likes to >> read. Cause I definitely like to write. haha >> >> Love to you all. >> >> , " chrism " >> <@> wrote: >> > >> > Before I do that, please tell me how this has changed your life on a >> > physical level? - >> > >> -- Best regards, rr mechtech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 HI mech, your welcome glad you found it so. , mechtech <mechtech wrote: > > Hello flamingbuddahgirl, > > Friday, June 1, 2007, 3:20:19 PM, you wrote: > > f> wow....your asking a lot here. I mean where do I start and if I tell > f> you that, then I am telling you all about me! We haven't even had > f> dinner yet! > > f> Ok. Here's my story. I am a healer (in training to an extent). I have > f> worked in the holistic health industry for around 8 years or so. I > f> realized very early on that my passion is for energetic medicine and I > f> have studied that intensely for many years as well. Energy is not > f> something I am unfamiliar with. > > f> My intuition is MUCH clearer. It no longer is a question of " if I can " > f> or the lack of trusting myself. Now I am certain and clear and > f> unafraid to say it as I see it so to speak. I trust my intuition much > f> more than ever before in my life. My connection with source is > f> powerful and it is through my heart. My heart chakra has been going > f> through a HUGE opening over the last year, when at times it feels as > f> though it is breaking so hard that I cannot bear the pain. All of us > f> sensitive folk have been going through major chakra adjustments this > f> last year because the earth is shifting at a rate that our bodies > f> cannot seem to keep up with. Thank fully I have a dear friend / old > f> teacher who is an intuitive healer / energy worker. I can call on her > f> when I am out of balance and she will make the adjustments to my > f> chakras as needed. My 5th, 6th and 7th have been big ones for me this > f> year. > > f> My sensitivity to food is incredible. I have always been sensitive, > f> but now my body is no longer asking, it requires live whole foods that > f> are as close to unhampered as possible or else I get sick or have some > f> type of allergy issue. > > f> One of the best things to have emerged very recently is my body's > f> desire to MOVE!! Once I received this information I didn't hesitate. I > f> got into a gym, got a trainer, and started moving a lot. Lately I have > f> been learning a lot about myself through movement. > > f> To put all this in to a bit of perspective for you, I used to be a > f> serious smoker / coffee drinker / junk food addict......who's only > f> exercise was getting up to walk to my car to drive somewhere. I come > f> from a family with similar traits. So as you can imagine, quitting > f> these things and changing my patterns and addictions was no small > f> task. But I would receive the information about when to begin and it > f> was like nothing could stop me. I smoked from 14 till 27. I am vastly > f> approaching 31. That, I believe, was one of the first steps in > f> bringing me to that dream because I could feel how the smoking was > f> numbing my emotions and ability to feel. Then after that it was > f> coffee. That was after the dream though. Essentially my body wants rid > f> of all stimulants. I have been through many transformations. I am like > f> an onion, constantly emerging with a new layer. I can feel and have > f> always felt like I am on my way somewhere really big. Or at least what > f> my conscious deems as big. > > f> These are just a few things that have happened. I mean recalling the > f> past year and what I have been through is no small task. If you knew > f> me well, you would be saying what all of my close friend's say which > f> is that they can't believe the transformation I have made. I went from > f> working at a health food store for six years to taking a serious leap > f> of faith and trusting my guidance and quitting in order to start my > f> own business. (that is one of the things my body was trying to tell me > f> last year at my birthday, by the way). Just recently I had my hair > f> cut. It was down to butt and now it is up to my shoulders. That was a > f> huge piece for me too because I could literally feel 2 1/2 years of > f> old energy sticking on me in my hair and I never realized it till I > f> had it cut. I'm not sure how I feel about the do itself, but what > f> matters to me right now is how free I feel. It's wild. > > f> I have a friend who is a thirteenth generation herbalist. She lived in > f> India for many years with a guru there whose name escapes me. One day > f> when we were visiting, she recalled to me a dream she had that was > f> very powerful. I then felt it appropriate to share my dream with her > f> as it was powerful in a similar way. She said that what happened to > f> her in India with a guru was exactly what happened to me in my dream. > f> She called it shaktipat. She showed me a picture that was taken of her > f> and several other women with the guru while they were in this state. > f> THEN, that same weekend I met with my friend Lex and another friend to > f> celebrate Lex's birthday. At some point Lex tells me about a dream > f> group he is part of. I said that I thought that was interesting > f> because I have a lot of psychic dreams. He said like what? So again, > f> my dream comes up in a conversation. To my surprise Lex says the same > f> thing to me - that it sounds like I had shaktipat. So by this time I > f> was totally trippen out. I asked Lex to tell me what he knows about > f> it. Then several days later he tells me I should join this group > f> and that I could learn more here. > > f> I find it interesting that this dream comes up so much later and I had > f> no clue what it was about at the time. I found a book called energies > f> of transformation that is also opening my eyes to a lot. > > f> Ok, so I told you that you were in for it. I hope everyone likes to > f> read. Cause I definitely like to write. haha > > f> Love to you all. > > f> , " chrism " > f> <@> wrote: > >> > >> Before I do that, please tell me how this has changed your life on a > >> physical level? - > >> > > Thank you that was interesting sharing. > > -- > Best regards, > rr mechtech > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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