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Paul,

 

My husband has had to deal with professional transitions a lot over

the last several years, which has drained him both mentally and

physically. Since he is a scientist, he has been a bit reluctant

about trusting his own spiritual gifts. However, he has also found

much solace in spiritual practice, though initially he was very

concerned about " losing it " , as he would put it.

 

Each of us is different, of course, but you may find that the K is

tremendously helpful when it comes to facing difficult situations.

The very least it does is to lower the stress level by showing you

things as they really are--you know, tearing the veil of maya and all

that... ;-) IMHO, a spiritual awakening means adding more layers

to " normal " consciousness. Some may get lost in the process, but most

are tremendously empowered by it.

 

Sel

 

 

, " paulrffff "

<paulrf2 wrote:

>

> Hi all...

>

> I just wanted to get feedback on a request that I made to chrism to

> withdraw from Shaktipat (temporarily). My issue is, and has always

> been fear, I guess, in performing normal daily requirements. My

job

> will probably come to an end soon, and I need my wits about me to

> interview and perhaps to study hard in some new endeavor. I know

that

> I should trust that all will be okay and go with the flow, but it

is

> difficult to let go (ego?) and to trust in the process. I guess

it's

> also fear of the unknown, and knowing that there is no returning to

my

> present consciousness (not that I should wish to)... I read of the

> problems shared by many, and I'm hesitant to make the jump. (If I

were

> retired, I think there would be no concern). Anyway, I am praying

for

> progress with balance, and I thought that the words of the group

here

> might bring some wisdom. But in any case, I wish blessings to this

> group and hope that there are many blissful (balanced) awakenings.

>

> Blessings...

> Paul

>

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Selena,

I can not wait for the day when they confirm that science and God are related.

You can say that Science is the heart of God. Every paranormal experience has a

scienttfic explaination to it created by God. Everything is energy, energy never

dies. I can go on about it, but I won't.

~ What type scientist is he? I am a science nut, I should of been a scientist

myself :-)

lisa

 

 

---- selena230 <selena230 wrote:

> Paul,

>

> My husband has had to deal with professional transitions a lot over

> the last several years, which has drained him both mentally and

> physically. Since he is a scientist, he has been a bit reluctant

> about trusting his own spiritual gifts. However, he has also found

> much solace in spiritual practice, though initially he was very

> concerned about " losing it " , as he would put it.

>

> Each of us is different, of course, but you may find that the K is

> tremendously helpful when it comes to facing difficult situations.

> The very least it does is to lower the stress level by showing you

> things as they really are--you know, tearing the veil of maya and all

> that... ;-) IMHO, a spiritual awakening means adding more layers

> to " normal " consciousness. Some may get lost in the process, but most

> are tremendously empowered by it.

>

> Sel

>

>

> , " paulrffff "

> <paulrf2 wrote:

> >

> > Hi all...

> >

> > I just wanted to get feedback on a request that I made to chrism to

> > withdraw from Shaktipat (temporarily). My issue is, and has always

> > been fear, I guess, in performing normal daily requirements. My

> job

> > will probably come to an end soon, and I need my wits about me to

> > interview and perhaps to study hard in some new endeavor. I know

> that

> > I should trust that all will be okay and go with the flow, but it

> is

> > difficult to let go (ego?) and to trust in the process. I guess

> it's

> > also fear of the unknown, and knowing that there is no returning to

> my

> > present consciousness (not that I should wish to)... I read of the

> > problems shared by many, and I'm hesitant to make the jump. (If I

> were

> > retired, I think there would be no concern). Anyway, I am praying

> for

> > progress with balance, and I thought that the words of the group

> here

> > might bring some wisdom. But in any case, I wish blessings to this

> > group and hope that there are many blissful (balanced) awakenings.

> >

> > Blessings...

> > Paul

> >

>

>

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Hi Paul,

 

My hubby is an applied physicist--well, he was till he changed

profession. His view is that physics and metaphysics cannot, and should

not, be mixed, because they tackle very different areas of reality.

There is nothing in " serious " physics that can explain his shamanic

journeys, and he has had to make his peace with it.

 

sel

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selena230 <selena230 wrote:

~There is nothing in " serious " physics that can explain his shamanic

journeys, and he has had to make his peace with it.

_______

Of course, nothing that science has figured out 'yet'. Look at the fact that we

only use 10% of our brains. To me that's unacceptable :-P Look at the fact that

science has dubbed our god-like genetics as 'junk DNA'.

I praise your husband for making peace with it so far, that is a huge step in

itself. I'll stop yapping, and I hope more journey's come for the both of you

:-)

peace!

 

 

 

---- selena230 <selena230 wrote:

> Hi Paul,

>

> My hubby is an applied physicist--well, he was till he changed

> profession. His view is that physics and metaphysics cannot, and should

> not, be mixed, because they tackle very different areas of reality.

> There is nothing in " serious " physics that can explain his shamanic

> journeys, and he has had to make his peace with it.

>

> sel

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Hi Selena,

 

Quantum Physics is starting to catch up with what Shamans have been

saying for the last 10,000 years (although this is causing great upset

for the more rigid-minded Physics boffins), with the observer not being

separate from his environment, multiple levels of reality and an

intelligence being shown by supposedly inanimate objects. There is also

the theory that everything we see is purely an illusion held together

by our collective will - i.e. mind is everything, which some

experiments have correlated with, and which we all know ourselves

anyway. I still think that Shamanic systems encompass our subjective

realities a lot better though.

 

I am glad to hear that your husband is following his heart. Good on him.

 

Tom...

 

 

, " selena230 "

<selena230 wrote:

>

> Hi Paul,

>

> My hubby is an applied physicist--well, he was till he changed

> profession. His view is that physics and metaphysics cannot, and

should

> not, be mixed, because they tackle very different areas of reality.

> There is nothing in " serious " physics that can explain his shamanic

> journeys, and he has had to make his peace with it.

>

> sel

>

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Thank you Sel and thank you to all that replied. I may have over reacted, and

perhaps that in itself means I have more work to do, I don't know. But thank

you all. :-)

 

Many Blessings.

Paul

 

Some may get lost in the process, but most

are tremendously empowered by it.

 

Sel

 

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Paul, something just struck me. I think many of us have been having

fear issues recently. Mine happened when I had that water monster

dream and woke up to all those faces bending over me. Yours happened

about the Shaktipat. Maybe someone else had it manifest in another

area. I believe that these are tests that we need to pass to get to

the next level.

 

Sarita

 

, paulrf2

wrote:

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>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> Elektra Fire elektra.fire

> Thank you Elektra and all the others that have encouraged me. The

funny thing is, I was in the last Shaktipat. I really don't know why

the thought of this one affected me - perhaps because I feel like I'm

more aware of the K now, and it is finally sinking in that it is

real. :-) It's strange how the mind works. I'm feeling more and

more comfortable though, and I've REALLY been amazed at the wonderful

people of this group.

> Much love and blessings to all :-)

> Paul

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That may be, though it's not clear to me who is giving the tests. I

seem to make most of my own problems. :-) I think of it like learning

to swim. Before you start trying to learn, you hear many horror stores

of people drowning, but as you learn and grow with your abilities, the

fear disappears and the confidence in yourself builds. I just hope

that my K abilities improve more quickly than my swimming. :-)

 

Blessings to you, and I hope that you feel better...

 

Paul

 

 

, " Sarita "

<sarita1969 wrote:

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> I believe that these are tests that we need to pass to get to

> the next level.

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