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With all respect to those who have suffered from entities-

and for the ones who are new at all of this (IE: extreme 'Virgins')-

 

I will be 54 on September 11th.

I have seen, interacted, been guided by, protected by (etc-

etc) 'spirits' or 'entities' (or whatever label anyone wants to give

them) since my earliest memories.

 

The only times I even came close to a 'scary problem' was when I

purposely tried to 'astral travel' to a man I met online whom I

perceived as being mentally ill. I thought I could help.

 

That night was one hellish nightmare, replete with evil ghost,

demons, wicked witches and other tortured souls. I believe these were

the creatures that tormented HIM! I understood his pain.

 

The other time was when I spent the night in my martial arts school.

Before I bought it, it was home to some people who lived at

the 'bottom of self respect " (drugs, extreme alcohol use, extreme

profanity, anger---God knows what else). Several of the former

residents have died.

One night (as I was intent on A.P.) they came to me. I was fully

aware of the room and fully aware of them. I was not asleep.

 

They were angry. We fought---and fought---and fought.

In the middle of all of this fighting, I became embarrassed at my

lack of self control. I'm a Martial Arts master! I should be in

better control! I apologized for my rudeness. I understood they were

confused. They once owned the building that I now have taken over.

I helped them understand the situation; with no words exchanged---

just thought energy. I felt the peace in the building, then.

The rest of the nights I spent there (there were many) I never heard

from them again.

 

I did once feel a presence looking over my shoulder as I was painting

the place. I even saw the shadow of two people. I finished the stroke

of the paint roller and turned around to speak. No one was present.

No where! I smiled. There was peace in the air. I spoke aloud: " Hope

you folks like the new paint job! " . :)

 

My thoughts?

Do we attract Evil Entities when our mind set is 'wrong'?

 

Maybe I have (usually) had a compassionate and mostly fearless way of

looking at the universe (since I was born). I guess growing up

with " interesting visitors " they don't frighten me. (They seem to

visit less often as I get older). I am not scared--I really welcome

them, and usually ask: Can I help you in some way? " .

 

Any thoughts from the very experienced?

 

Thank You!

God Bless You All!

Hang in there!

:) :) :)

Stephen C.

 

, novalees

<Novalees wrote:

>

> Hello Group.

>

> I just want to say that this can happen at any time,

> not only when one is blown into the Astral. It appears

> there are many doors entities can come through. You

> may dabble in something and not even be aware that you

> are opening a door until it is too late, then there

> may be no closing it. So do be careful what you touch.

> A moment of excitement or satisfaction in learning

> something or feeling something may turn out to be too

> expensive a price to pay for what may follow as a

> consequence. Imho. Love, dhyana

>

>

> --- chrism <> wrote:

>

> This is what can happen when a person is blown into

> the Astral. This

> is what can happen if the K is blown open. No guidance

> except from

> those who haven't gone there except in their imaginings.

>

>

>

>

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Hi Stephen,

 

From what I gather there are many different kinds of

entities, as there are different kinds of people. The

catagory I'm referring to are not the confused or

friendly type, they are mean...and do not respond to

kindness. I just wish I was a spiritual martial artist

so I would know how to handle them. Maybe this is my

class room! Love, dhyana

 

 

--- Stephen AKA Master Condrey

<stephencondrey wrote:

 

> With all respect to those who have suffered from

> entities-

> and for the ones who are new at all of this (IE:

> extreme 'Virgins')-

>

> I will be 54 on September 11th.

> I have seen, interacted, been guided by, protected

> by (etc-

> etc) 'spirits' or 'entities' (or whatever label

> anyone wants to give

> them) since my earliest memories.

>

> The only times I even came close to a 'scary

> problem' was when I

> purposely tried to 'astral travel' to a man I met

> online whom I

> perceived as being mentally ill. I thought I could

> help.

>

> That night was one hellish nightmare, replete with

> evil ghost,

> demons, wicked witches and other tortured souls. I

> believe these were

> the creatures that tormented HIM! I understood his

> pain.

>

> The other time was when I spent the night in my

> martial arts school.

> Before I bought it, it was home to some people who

> lived at

> the 'bottom of self respect " (drugs, extreme alcohol

> use, extreme

> profanity, anger---God knows what else). Several of

> the former

> residents have died.

> One night (as I was intent on A.P.) they came to me.

> I was fully

> aware of the room and fully aware of them. I was not

> asleep.

>

> They were angry. We fought---and fought---and

> fought.

> In the middle of all of this fighting, I became

> embarrassed at my

> lack of self control. I'm a Martial Arts master! I

> should be in

> better control! I apologized for my rudeness. I

> understood they were

> confused. They once owned the building that I now

> have taken over.

> I helped them understand the situation; with no

> words exchanged---

> just thought energy. I felt the peace in the

> building, then.

> The rest of the nights I spent there (there were

> many) I never heard

> from them again.

>

> I did once feel a presence looking over my shoulder

> as I was painting

> the place. I even saw the shadow of two people. I

> finished the stroke

> of the paint roller and turned around to speak. No

> one was present.

> No where! I smiled. There was peace in the air. I

> spoke aloud: " Hope

> you folks like the new paint job! " . :)

>

> My thoughts?

> Do we attract Evil Entities when our mind set is

> 'wrong'?

>

> Maybe I have (usually) had a compassionate and

> mostly fearless way of

> looking at the universe (since I was born). I guess

> growing up

> with " interesting visitors " they don't frighten me.

> (They seem to

> visit less often as I get older). I am not scared--I

> really welcome

> them, and usually ask: Can I help you in some way? " .

>

> Any thoughts from the very experienced?

>

> Thank You!

> God Bless You All!

> Hang in there!

> :) :) :)

> Stephen C.

>

> --- In

> ,

> novalees

> <Novalees wrote:

> >

> > Hello Group.

> >

> > I just want to say that this can happen at any

> time,

> > not only when one is blown into the Astral. It

> appears

> > there are many doors entities can come through.

> You

> > may dabble in something and not even be aware that

> you

> > are opening a door until it is too late, then

> there

> > may be no closing it. So do be careful what you

> touch.

> > A moment of excitement or satisfaction in learning

> > something or feeling something may turn out to be

> too

> > expensive a price to pay for what may follow as a

> > consequence. Imho. Love, dhyana

> >

> >

> > --- chrism <> wrote:

> >

> > This is what can happen when a person is blown

> into

> > the Astral. This

> > is what can happen if the K is blown open. No

> guidance

> > except from

> > those who haven't gone there except in their

> imaginings.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

____________________

> ______________

> > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship

> answers from

> someone who knows. Answers - Check it out.

> >

>

http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Hi again! I just wanted to add that its not a matter of attracting

them, in this case. It was a matter of opening a door. So, some of the

knowledge of dealing with entities that has to do with attraction and

fears doesn't apply. I'm not afraid of them. They torment, I try to

defend myself from their meanness. They want more access to me than

what they can get, and I don't allow it. So they keep trying. I tell

them they are wasting their time. I'm very stubborn, and have no

intention of allowing pain to change my mind. I send them positive

energy, love, guidance,...and still defend myself the best I am able.

And will continue even though others have different ideas of what is

going on, they're not walking in my shoes. Hugs. Love, dhyana

 

 

 

, novalees

<Novalees wrote:

>

> Hi Stephen,

>

> From what I gather there are many different kinds of

> entities, as there are different kinds of people. The

> catagory I'm referring to are not the confused or

> friendly type, they are mean...and do not respond to

> kindness. I just wish I was a spiritual martial artist

> so I would know how to handle them. Maybe this is my

> class room! Love, dhyana

>

>

> --- Stephen AKA Master Condrey

> <stephencondrey wrote:

>

> > With all respect to those who have suffered from

> > entities-

> > and for the ones who are new at all of this (IE:

> > extreme 'Virgins')-

> >

> > I will be 54 on September 11th.

> > I have seen, interacted, been guided by, protected

> > by (etc-

> > etc) 'spirits' or 'entities' (or whatever label

> > anyone wants to give

> > them) since my earliest memories.

> >

> > The only times I even came close to a 'scary

> > problem' was when I

> > purposely tried to 'astral travel' to a man I met

> > online whom I

> > perceived as being mentally ill. I thought I could

> > help.

> >

> > That night was one hellish nightmare, replete with

> > evil ghost,

> > demons, wicked witches and other tortured souls. I

> > believe these were

> > the creatures that tormented HIM! I understood his

> > pain.

> >

> > The other time was when I spent the night in my

> > martial arts school.

> > Before I bought it, it was home to some people who

> > lived at

> > the 'bottom of self respect " (drugs, extreme alcohol

> > use, extreme

> > profanity, anger---God knows what else). Several of

> > the former

> > residents have died.

> > One night (as I was intent on A.P.) they came to me.

> > I was fully

> > aware of the room and fully aware of them. I was not

> > asleep.

> >

> > They were angry. We fought---and fought---and

> > fought.

> > In the middle of all of this fighting, I became

> > embarrassed at my

> > lack of self control. I'm a Martial Arts master! I

> > should be in

> > better control! I apologized for my rudeness. I

> > understood they were

> > confused. They once owned the building that I now

> > have taken over.

> > I helped them understand the situation; with no

> > words exchanged---

> > just thought energy. I felt the peace in the

> > building, then.

> > The rest of the nights I spent there (there were

> > many) I never heard

> > from them again.

> >

> > I did once feel a presence looking over my shoulder

> > as I was painting

> > the place. I even saw the shadow of two people. I

> > finished the stroke

> > of the paint roller and turned around to speak. No

> > one was present.

> > No where! I smiled. There was peace in the air. I

> > spoke aloud: " Hope

> > you folks like the new paint job! " . :)

> >

> > My thoughts?

> > Do we attract Evil Entities when our mind set is

> > 'wrong'?

> >

> > Maybe I have (usually) had a compassionate and

> > mostly fearless way of

> > looking at the universe (since I was born). I guess

> > growing up

> > with " interesting visitors " they don't frighten me.

> > (They seem to

> > visit less often as I get older). I am not scared--I

> > really welcome

> > them, and usually ask: Can I help you in some way? " .

> >

> > Any thoughts from the very experienced?

> >

> > Thank You!

> > God Bless You All!

> > Hang in there!

> > :) :) :)

> > Stephen C.

> >

> > --- In

> > ,

> > novalees

> > <Novalees@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Group.

> > >

> > > I just want to say that this can happen at any

> > time,

> > > not only when one is blown into the Astral. It

> > appears

> > > there are many doors entities can come through.

> > You

> > > may dabble in something and not even be aware that

> > you

> > > are opening a door until it is too late, then

> > there

> > > may be no closing it. So do be careful what you

> > touch.

> > > A moment of excitement or satisfaction in learning

> > > something or feeling something may turn out to be

> > too

> > > expensive a price to pay for what may follow as a

> > > consequence. Imho. Love, dhyana

> > >

> > >

> > > --- chrism <@> wrote:

> > >

> > > This is what can happen when a person is blown

> > into

> > > the Astral. This

> > > is what can happen if the K is blown open. No

> > guidance

> > > except from

> > > those who haven't gone there except in their

> > imaginings.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> ____________________

> > ______________

> > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship

> > answers from

> > someone who knows. Answers - Check it out.

> > >

> >

> http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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> See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

> http://autos./new_cars.html

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I agree with you 100% Dhyana, and being a chriatian doesn't exempt

this from happening. Speaking from experience.

 

Stephen, I grew up with seeing ghostly people and none that were in

my house seemed negative, so my experience with entities hasn't been

as drastic as yours.

My worse experience was with a negative one that followed me home

from watching the Exorist movie. I was not a christian at the time

and it happened about the time I began experimenting with marijuana.

Watching that movie, the marijuana, playing with an ouija board was

not a good thing in itself, but work as a catalyst for me, which

spurred me on to the spiritual path in a hurry.

blessings

CC

 

 

 

, " Stephen AKA

Master Condrey " <stephencondrey wrote:

>

> With all respect to those who have suffered from entities-

> and for the ones who are new at all of this (IE: extreme 'Virgins')-

>

> I will be 54 on September 11th.

> I have seen, interacted, been guided by, protected by (etc-

> etc) 'spirits' or 'entities' (or whatever label anyone wants to

give

> them) since my earliest memories.

>

> The only times I even came close to a 'scary problem' was when I

> purposely tried to 'astral travel' to a man I met online whom I

> perceived as being mentally ill. I thought I could help.

>

> That night was one hellish nightmare, replete with evil ghost,

> demons, wicked witches and other tortured souls. I believe these

were

> the creatures that tormented HIM! I understood his pain.

>

> The other time was when I spent the night in my martial arts school.

> Before I bought it, it was home to some people who lived at

> the 'bottom of self respect " (drugs, extreme alcohol use, extreme

> profanity, anger---God knows what else). Several of the former

> residents have died.

> One night (as I was intent on A.P.) they came to me. I was fully

> aware of the room and fully aware of them. I was not asleep.

>

> They were angry. We fought---and fought---and fought.

> In the middle of all of this fighting, I became embarrassed at my

> lack of self control. I'm a Martial Arts master! I should be in

> better control! I apologized for my rudeness. I understood they

were

> confused. They once owned the building that I now have taken over.

> I helped them understand the situation; with no words exchanged---

> just thought energy. I felt the peace in the building, then.

> The rest of the nights I spent there (there were many) I never

heard

> from them again.

>

> I did once feel a presence looking over my shoulder as I was

painting

> the place. I even saw the shadow of two people. I finished the

stroke

> of the paint roller and turned around to speak. No one was present.

> No where! I smiled. There was peace in the air. I spoke

aloud: " Hope

> you folks like the new paint job! " . :)

>

> My thoughts?

> Do we attract Evil Entities when our mind set is 'wrong'?

>

> Maybe I have (usually) had a compassionate and mostly fearless way

of

> looking at the universe (since I was born). I guess growing up

> with " interesting visitors " they don't frighten me. (They seem to

> visit less often as I get older). I am not scared--I really welcome

> them, and usually ask: Can I help you in some way? " .

>

> Any thoughts from the very experienced?

>

> Thank You!

> God Bless You All!

> Hang in there!

> :) :) :)

> Stephen C.

>

> , novalees

> <Novalees@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Group.

> >

> > I just want to say that this can happen at any time,

> > not only when one is blown into the Astral. It appears

> > there are many doors entities can come through. You

> > may dabble in something and not even be aware that you

> > are opening a door until it is too late, then there

> > may be no closing it. So do be careful what you touch.

> > A moment of excitement or satisfaction in learning

> > something or feeling something may turn out to be too

> > expensive a price to pay for what may follow as a

> > consequence. Imho. Love, dhyana

> >

> >

> > --- chrism <@> wrote:

> >

> > This is what can happen when a person is blown into

> > the Astral. This

> > is what can happen if the K is blown open. No guidance

> > except from

> > those who haven't gone there except in their imaginings.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

____________________

> ______________

> > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from

> someone who knows. Answers - Check it out.

> > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433

> >

>

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Hi Dhyana, I haven't had experiences like yours...but I have opened

some doors which were scary...and then I closed them. Is this a

possibility for you? I know this is for me and I know that my

training from other lifetimes is the reason, so now I'd like to find

out more about what people experience and why. In my knowledge, I am

able to control what happens to me by controling my thoughts and what

goes on in my mind. It is really because of my belief and knowledge

of this that I can do this. When we were kids, my older sister used

to try to torture me all the time and she saw it as a personal

challenge to try to 'break' me. Now I can see that as a great

blessing, which helped me to train my mind to not be affected by it.

When I read what you write, I can see a similarity in how you are

using this experience to become strong and not let it affect you. All

these things are temporary, right? :) I like your strength and

attitude...it's great! I'd love to hear more of your thoughts so I

can learn more. Love, Jeannette

 

, " novalees "

<Novalees wrote:

>

> Hi again! I just wanted to add that its not a matter of attracting

> them, in this case. It was a matter of opening a door. So, some of

the

> knowledge of dealing with entities that has to do with attraction

and

> fears doesn't apply. I'm not afraid of them. They torment, I try to

> defend myself from their meanness. They want more access to me than

> what they can get, and I don't allow it. So they keep trying. I tell

> them they are wasting their time. I'm very stubborn, and have no

> intention of allowing pain to change my mind. I send them positive

> energy, love, guidance,...and still defend myself the best I am

able.

> And will continue even though others have different ideas of what is

> going on, they're not walking in my shoes. Hugs. Love, dhyana

>

>

>

>

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Dhyana,

I have walked in your shoes...and I know what it is you speak of. This

happened to me in 2002 when I was opened up. I was asked twice if I was willing

to go through this...and twice i said yes thinking all the time it was something

else. And so they came. I lived at that time in old china town in Marysvilles

California. I lived in a building that was at least 200 years old. The next

door neighbors were a Chinese mafia....who had been there all those years. It

was the red light district when the town first began....and remained that way

until a few years before I moved in.

This is just to let you know what kind of entities that came...and what I

had to deal with. One by one I dealt with them...each one showed me what it was

in me that needed healing...so that they (or anyone vibrating at that energy)

couldn't bother me again. i went through hell learning all I have about the

spirit world and how things work on both planes.

I had at that time asked the Ascended masters to take this away...I

didn't want to go through it. But they said they couldn't without causing much

harm to me...and so there I was...having to go through all the

cleansing...without anyone to turn to for help.

The inner cleansing raises ones vibration...what we go through here is an

easy version...not having to look at most of what is there within us...but

learning to allow it to move through without attaching to it again.

What I can tell you will work for you is this...but it will be diffcult

to do and will take practice...and that is...release all resistance to those

attacking. You must within fully release all resistance and this is done by

clearing your mind...staying very still within...so still that you may fall

asleep....that is okay. But practice the inner stillness...for they cannot

attach to nothing. It has to do with electricity...everything is energy. I had

to do this many times. Your inner lake (emotions) must be perfectly still...no

thoughts to start them up again.

What will take place as you practice keeping your emotions balanced...is

you will be shown those things that keep your inner lake whirling...even if it

seems that you are calm on the outside...this comes from the subconscious. As

you begin to heal these things...the inner whirlpools will end and you will be

able to stay very still within...and so without something to attach to these

entities will leave and so will the pain if they are the cause of it.

i know this is hard...it was for me too. i spent much money trying to

find anyone who could help me....and in the end....no one could but me

alone...with the help of my higher self.

This is what happens when people try to go into the spiritual realms

before they are ready...I had done much inner work before this took place and so

found that as i kept doing this inner work...and finding my own virtues and

truths that I live by...that I could master this...and so did.

I will keep you in my prayers. Listen to Chrism...he is right on about

making sure we move into a new morality and response---ability. This is vital

to ending your traumatic experiences.

 

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Hey Dhyana,

 

I am very resonant with what you wrote. I have practiced lovingkindness,

strength of integrity all my life, and cannot say that anything I have done,

or my energies, " attracted " this. I am so in the dark about that. Even

when I have held that position toward myself and them for long periods of

time, I have still been under virulent attacks for months at a time.

 

The beings/entities i am dealing with are more like an entire world of

entities, and they do not back off by any means I try. It's a constant

onslaught. Even when I meditate/am fullly in the witness for long periods

of time, they fill my mind space, and often my body space with constant

chatter and their energies start to cause my body a sort of dimensional

distortion.

 

I am sort of in a damned if I do damned if I don't situation...they

don't seem to be conscious enough for reason or ethics to be a tool i can

use with them. I can't figure out how they connect with me to protect

myself from them.

 

Mostly, I just have to keep grounding, trying to find ways to soothe my

nervous system and switch my energies out of chronic pain & the emotional

disturbances this creates, and keep putting one foot in front of the other

and try to be in the world with people and my cat instead of letting them

take over my attention.

 

I don't have any answers or insight yet as to what will provide the

separation from these beings that I need. The psychic protection methods

don't stick.

 

Anyway, thanks for writing your truth.

 

Peace,

Laura

 

 

 

 

 

On 6/23/07, novalees <Novalees wrote:

>

> Hi again! I just wanted to add that its not a matter of attracting

> them, in this case. It was a matter of opening a door. So, some of the

> knowledge of dealing with entities that has to do with attraction and

> fears doesn't apply. I'm not afraid of them. They torment, I try to

> defend myself from their meanness. They want more access to me than

> what they can get, and I don't allow it. So they keep trying. I tell

> them they are wasting their time. I'm very stubborn, and have no

> intention of allowing pain to change my mind. I send them positive

> energy, love, guidance,...and still defend myself the best I am able.

> And will continue even though others have different ideas of what is

> going on, they're not walking in my shoes. Hugs. Love, dhyana

>

> --- In

<%40ya\

hoogroups.com>,

> novalees

> <Novalees wrote:

> >

> > Hi Stephen,

> >

> > From what I gather there are many different kinds of

> > entities, as there are different kinds of people. The

> > catagory I'm referring to are not the confused or

> > friendly type, they are mean...and do not respond to

> > kindness. I just wish I was a spiritual martial artist

> > so I would know how to handle them. Maybe this is my

> > class room! Love, dhyana

> >

> >

> > --- Stephen AKA Master Condrey

> > <stephencondrey wrote:

> >

> > > With all respect to those who have suffered from

> > > entities-

> > > and for the ones who are new at all of this (IE:

> > > extreme 'Virgins')-

> > >

> > > I will be 54 on September 11th.

> > > I have seen, interacted, been guided by, protected

> > > by (etc-

> > > etc) 'spirits' or 'entities' (or whatever label

> > > anyone wants to give

> > > them) since my earliest memories.

> > >

> > > The only times I even came close to a 'scary

> > > problem' was when I

> > > purposely tried to 'astral travel' to a man I met

> > > online whom I

> > > perceived as being mentally ill. I thought I could

> > > help.

> > >

> > > That night was one hellish nightmare, replete with

> > > evil ghost,

> > > demons, wicked witches and other tortured souls. I

> > > believe these were

> > > the creatures that tormented HIM! I understood his

> > > pain.

> > >

> > > The other time was when I spent the night in my

> > > martial arts school.

> > > Before I bought it, it was home to some people who

> > > lived at

> > > the 'bottom of self respect " (drugs, extreme alcohol

> > > use, extreme

> > > profanity, anger---God knows what else). Several of

> > > the former

> > > residents have died.

> > > One night (as I was intent on A.P.) they came to me.

> > > I was fully

> > > aware of the room and fully aware of them. I was not

> > > asleep.

> > >

> > > They were angry. We fought---and fought---and

> > > fought.

> > > In the middle of all of this fighting, I became

> > > embarrassed at my

> > > lack of self control. I'm a Martial Arts master! I

> > > should be in

> > > better control! I apologized for my rudeness. I

> > > understood they were

> > > confused. They once owned the building that I now

> > > have taken over.

> > > I helped them understand the situation; with no

> > > words exchanged---

> > > just thought energy. I felt the peace in the

> > > building, then.

> > > The rest of the nights I spent there (there were

> > > many) I never heard

> > > from them again.

> > >

> > > I did once feel a presence looking over my shoulder

> > > as I was painting

> > > the place. I even saw the shadow of two people. I

> > > finished the stroke

> > > of the paint roller and turned around to speak. No

> > > one was present.

> > > No where! I smiled. There was peace in the air. I

> > > spoke aloud: " Hope

> > > you folks like the new paint job! " . :)

> > >

> > > My thoughts?

> > > Do we attract Evil Entities when our mind set is

> > > 'wrong'?

> > >

> > > Maybe I have (usually) had a compassionate and

> > > mostly fearless way of

> > > looking at the universe (since I was born). I guess

> > > growing up

> > > with " interesting visitors " they don't frighten me.

> > > (They seem to

> > > visit less often as I get older). I am not scared--I

> > > really welcome

> > > them, and usually ask: Can I help you in some way? " .

> > >

> > > Any thoughts from the very experienced?

> > >

> > > Thank You!

> > > God Bless You All!

> > > Hang in there!

> > > :) :) :)

> > > Stephen C.

> > >

> > > --- In

> > >

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> ,

> > > novalees

> > > <Novalees@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello Group.

> > > >

> > > > I just want to say that this can happen at any

> > > time,

> > > > not only when one is blown into the Astral. It

> > > appears

> > > > there are many doors entities can come through.

> > > You

> > > > may dabble in something and not even be aware that

> > > you

> > > > are opening a door until it is too late, then

> > > there

> > > > may be no closing it. So do be careful what you

> > > touch.

> > > > A moment of excitement or satisfaction in learning

> > > > something or feeling something may turn out to be

> > > too

> > > > expensive a price to pay for what may follow as a

> > > > consequence. Imho. Love, dhyana

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- chrism <@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > This is what can happen when a person is blown

> > > into

> > > > the Astral. This

> > > > is what can happen if the K is blown open. No

> > > guidance

> > > > except from

> > > > those who haven't gone there except in their

> > > imaginings.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > ________

> > > ______________

> > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship

> > > answers from

> > > someone who knows. Answers - Check it out.

> > > >

> > >

> > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ________

> > Don't pick lemons.

> > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

> > http://autos./new_cars.html

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

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I have been able to make crown adjustments in the past. Part of the

issue is your continuous energetic exposure into that dimension via

the energies bursting through your crown. You are bursting into their

world because of that. And have for some reason stopped there instead

of going farther. - Let me know. This is an in person adjustment. -

 

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I pondered much of the day as to whether to speak about the rest of what I

learned and went through with what happened to me because of Chrisms request to

us not to speak of guides or masters during this time. But after reading about

the experiences of Laura and Dyanna and himself I felt this may in some

way shed some light.

When I said that the Masters had told me they couldn't help me during the

times I was going through because it would be too dangerous for me to be pulled

apart from those that were tormenting me...I failed to say that they did explain

what was happening. Although as beings from white light they do not give every

word...so that I could have my own experiences and come to my own understanding

of the truths of what takes place...they gave me enough information to show me

where to look for my answers to the entity attacks, the pain, and the endless

tormenting thoughts that came in.

The last time i spoke with these masters was 2003...and it was at that

time that they raised my vibration very fast and high to take me through to now.

They told me that I needed to get the babies and the whiskey drinker out of me.

They also told me I would begin to be able to see the truth of what was

surrounding me. I was with my two best friends and we had all gone to speak

with these masters. My friends were wonderful spiritual people who were trying

to learn as I was. I had been told a year before who these babies were...this

is what the masters called my best friends during a private session.

The masters didn't say anything about the man whose wires were crossed

with my own...and so I didn't at that time put two and two together.

The vibration raise was so high so fast i didn't have time to adjust to

the influx of its affect on my gifts. On the way home my friend was driving and

her boyfriend was laying down in the back seat. As I sat there, she began to

ask me some questions. The questions themselves aren't relevant...but what was

happening to me at the time was I could feel within me this sneakiness....this

judgment...these horrible feelings and tormenting thoughts. I sat very quietly

asking myself why in the world i was feeling like this...I knew this was not

like me...i knew it wasn't who I was...i didn't have these kinds of thoughts.

When we got back to California I became reclusive...trying to figure out

what was happening to me and going within 24/7 discerning what were my thoughts

and what were not. this whole thing had really begun two months earlier. At

that time I thought is was the thoughts of the one whose wires were crossed with

mine...I had dealt with his thoughts of murder and other horrifying things for a

year.

Then my friend came over and the feelings became stronger in her

presence. it was then that i saw a facial expression of hers...a little quirky

movement in her eyebrow that I had been feeling, that let me know that the one

who was there...the tormenting thoughts I was dealing with were hers...because i

could " feel " the imprint of her face upon my own and this same facial expression

had come in time and time again...but i never noticed it was her facial

expression until that moment.

She came and began to tell me that she didn't like me...that she hadn't

liked me for a year. I couldn't believe my ears...what I felt on the

inside..the tormenting thoughts, the hateful feelings...the sneakiness, all of

it...was coming out now in front of me through her words to me. I was

devastated..I tried asking why she called me to go with her and her boyfriend to

the movies and other such things. I tried to ask why she wanted to go into

business with me is this is how she truly felt. I asked why she hadn't told me

before. But she had no answers and she left.

Then my landlord came back from Arizona...he had been a friend to my ex

husband and I for more than 15 years. I went through this same thing with

him...not as fiery, not as fierce because by that time I was beginning to

understand what was actually taking place. He was the whiskey drinker.

Once I found who each one was that was within me...I realized how they

got there. It was through the cord at the third chakra. This is the cord of

relationship. It was later i realized that this had always been there...but my

vibration had raised enough...where the oneness was being felt by me, the

illusions of separation were stripped away... and I could feel what it was that

took place within with those we open up to in our lives.

I found for myself through trial and error that to work on myself and my

inner virtues would set definite boundaries in place that were permanent and

impenetrable. This was difficult work as I had to figure out what love actually

was...what it wasn't. i had to lose the illusions. I had to decide about

relationships...what kind of things i was willing to experience and not

experience.

What I was experiencing at that time with my friend was betrayal. And so

I had to look within at the things in me that caused me to attract betrayal. It

isn't that these things are bad things in us that attract experiences like

these...in my case... it was my victimization that attracted these kinds of

things to me. I had to overcome my victimization by becoming strong in those

areas that i was weak...those places within me that were not aligned with my

true self...the one who is whole...and not a victim.

After getting these people out...later...a few more would come in..i

would go through the same process..first their ugliness would come through...and

i would have to discern what was mine and what was theirs. when I found what

area I was weak in...they were gone...and with them the torments. My worst came

when a schizophrenic came...she came from one of the early groups I was in...and

her thoughts were like misfires running through my head...like electrical

circuitry was backfiring. I was given an immediate message of guidance not to

go there...so i didn't. At that time I was wondering if I could help my

aunt...who was showing signs of this disease. I made the conscious choice not

to experience that kind of thing in my life again...and I haven't.

It was very difficult for me going through this and realizing that what i

was experiencing was the true subconscious of those i was close to. That is why

most are not ready for the truth of it. It hurts. It can devastate. That is

why it is so difficult to find a way to stop it...because it is those one is

closest to...ones they have opened up to.

The masters told me I would be learning a big lesson in unconditional

love...and it was through all this that i did. I was able through my own inner

work to see that i too deep inside at times in my life had deep inner thoughts

like this...they were fleeting and I didn't act upon them. I then realized that

these others I knew hadn't acted upon all their thoughts either. I had to

learn to not look at those places that were bitter...and continue to look at

what is sweet...the actual truth. That these people just like me came here and

are dealing with life in the best way they can. There within them is this

Divine Being...the kind one...the caring one...no matter what...this divine

being is there.

The subconscious is where the deepest hurts lie...where the defense

mechanisms are found, where one reacts from. These are the things i

encountered...and this is what I found. All I endured doesn't need to be spoken

of...it is past. What is important here is what I found was happening and how I

learned to protect myself from it without harming another or changing the

forward movement of my awakening or diminishing my gift.

I pray this can help those going through this.

 

Blessings Adina

 

 

 

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