Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I dont pretend to be able to help you in any way but im sending you a hug and want you to know im thinking lovingly of you . Love elizabeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Laura, I have been through what you speak of. This was a great part of my training and remembering, and learning to understand what exactly takes place. We receive exactly what we believe. Nothing more, nothing less. So when one is attacked by others...one must look within for the victim that lies within. There cannot be attackers without victims and vice versa. I learned the truth about entities and my own thought forms and how i created and recreated my own victim hood. I didn't like what I saw...I didn't like going through it. I didn't like learning to let go of being a victim so that this would no longer attract to me. We are working right now on the 3rd chakra...that place where relationships are formed, kept, let go of and so forth. It is here that one must look at the relationships in ones life to see where their victim hood started. It was difficult for me..because mine began just before my birth. But even that was brought to the surface to heal and be let go of...so that my higher self could come more into this physical body. This is where you must look to heal from this bombardment. When you find where it began...you will be able to make a decision based on what you find and this can then become a natural boundary so that this ends in your life. Ask Shiva for help, she is here to help us all to cleanse and find our oneness. We are all facing such things...some a little different...some the same...but it is happening to us all...we are facing those things within us that we need to look at and make decisions on. Adina oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Thanks Elizabeth. Message received. Love and human contact is healing for me. Wishing you peace and happiness, Laura On 6/23/07, elizabeth931665 <cosmichealer1 wrote: > > I dont pretend to be able to help you in any way but im sending you a > hug and want you to know im thinking lovingly of you . > Love elizabeth > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Hi Chrism, I am working strongly on this all the time. It is a huge tug of war. They have particular patterns of interacting with me, and my job seems to continuously dismantle them. They can get to this point with me, but then say they don't know what to do, since they hear me, and just go back to doing what they were. I varry from trying to change the pattern through grounding means, food, nature, ignoring them, interacting with people...and then also through dismantling their illusions with their role with me. Most of them can get through the illusion of their role, but it does not stick, and it does not result in our separation. I don't seem to have the insight/practice to move in this full separation and change my energetic patterning. I would love to hear more about that. And thanks for your support. Peace, Laura On 6/23/07, chrism <> wrote: > > " interacting with me and don't seem to know > how to stop. " > > This is interesting. It would seem that as you are thrust into this > enivronment (thiers) that they have no recourse but to attach or > communicate. So it is a matter of you pulling your energy or energetic > configuration into a different pattern. - just a thought - chrism > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 | When this occurred with me I was constantly compelled to hurt others. This didn't occur as I recognized it for the overt programming that it was. But like you they were relentless. Sometimes I could feel myself slipping into the morass of their entanglements. So I decided to converge the experiences. Every time I was being compelled to hurt another person I would then do a complete reversal of that programming. I would do the exact opposite but with refinements. So if I was compelled to do mortal damage to a person, an older person just as an example (never happened) I would seek out an older individual who caught my intuition as a person who could use some help. I would then base my loving, selfless, service for this person, in the real time awake periods, on the negative attacks and programming that was given. If it was a child they wished for me to attack then it was a child somewhere in the world that was helped. This wasn't what was with in their comfort zones and these types of attacks soon ceased. This is what I refer to as a " change of energetic patterning " As intentions and thoughts exhibit specific frequencies of action, and I would change that pattern or I would change the channel so to say. This is only one example of a change and they are as many as you can create. Part of the experience is the taking over of the control of the situation. Taking charge is a very empowering position to have and it greatly reduces the amount of anxiety one can experience. So do what you can, to gain the upper hand and set the platform for the lesson to be learned that day or night. It really doesn't matter were they come from or what part of our real-time experience they inhabit they are a real force to be reckoned with and an opportunity for learning. I like what Dhyana is doing with her situation and she is adopting an attitude " Bring it on and you'll get it back " very similar to what mine was when this started up. I just had to learn how to in this type of reality, this world. And there are many more than two. So Laura what I have been seeing with regards to your situation is that you are in a holding pattern of your own development. They seem to be doing a job. They seem to me at this point to be like worker bees. So it appears that you have reached a threshold area in this aspect. I am sure there is more to it but I am looking at specific actions here and I am attempting to simplify by focusing in on a specific activity. There is also a golden lining here though it is at the moment hard to see or figure. This goes for you and Dhyana and for me. Mine was to be forced into developing certain instincts that allowed me to a certain way into these worlds. Some would call them " lower " worlds, or the lower astral whatever. I will suggest that is also what is being developed in you. There is another option but I wish to go off list with you and Dhyana if she wishes to partake of it. It is an unorthodox approach and may not attract you. Both of you are doing very well! You haven't become victims to it no matter how hard or hurtful it has been and I would like you to know how very honored I am to be in the same group as both of you. Keep going and do not give in unless surrender is a viable option to allay some of these issues. If you wish more dialog on these matters please let me know. Part of the answer may be in this question - " When did smoke learn how to fly? " - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Thanks Igor! believe it or not, each peace of moral support really does get through to me and helps me reconfirm my will to live, transcend, and heal through this. On 6/23/07, Igor Alphus <Alphu-s wrote: > > Laura stick with ''us'' all, follow Chrism's advise. > > Great great strength to you. > Igor. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Laura my love is stronger than my fear and when anything unpleasant starts to happen i concentrate really hard on all the things i love . I have seen things in the night in the past so i have some slight insight into what you are going through . All i can say is that i am now stronger as a result of what i have been through and ready to face whatever comes in the future .I think the scariest moment was when i had to agree to die in place of my youngest child .In my mind it was real of course . I guess part of moving on for me is facing my fears . I cannot of course face yours but im cheering you on to victory . Love elizabeth undalini-Awakening-Systems-1 , " L K " <spacegypsie wrote: > > Thanks Elizabeth. Message received. Love and human contact is healing for > me. > > Wishing you peace and happiness, > Laura > > > > On 6/23/07, elizabeth931665 <cosmichealer1 wrote: > > > > I dont pretend to be able to help you in any way but im sending you a > > hug and want you to know im thinking lovingly of you . > > Love elizabeth > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 No problem ''sing out'' as you need strength, Laura,we are all in this together. Igor. : spacegypsie: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:17:49 -0800Re: Re: Laura Thanks Igor! believe it or not, each peace of moral support really does getthrough to me and helps me reconfirm my will to live, transcend, and healthrough this.On 6/23/07, Igor Alphus <Alphu-s wrote:>> Laura stick with ''us'' all, follow Chrism's advise.>> Great great strength to you.> Igor.>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Chrism, I am so blessed to have encountered both you and Dhyana at this time. Seriously man...I am drawing so much strength even just knowing I am not the only one who this has happened to (thought neither 2 are alike i am sure). I am following you about the transmutation of energies, and also amazed at what you had to go through. That must have been extremely challenging. I have experienced levels of rage/irritation through this I never thought possible, almost becoming a wild animal, so uncomfortable in my skin, but luckily it has only been back at these beings and not to the earth based world. I would so like to hear more of your story. My mind has created many inner transmutation practices now with them. They have almost gotten to an autopilot back brain place, so I can still ground in human time and try to keep aiming for a better emotional systemic balance. Some are counter-intuitive and actually against my usual spiritual or ethical sensibilities (not toward other humans or the human realm...but i have had to get in touch with my wrath and inner warrior/punk). I also have to keep transmuting non-human/earth based vibrations in my energy field and body as they appear back into more of my personal vibration. I think I am again getting to a point of inner strength, but they are still " with " " around " " in " me all the time, driving me insane. I really like what you said about converting and reversing what comes up when it comes to people. I think I will bring more of that in...though I have to be careful with these particular beings to do it from my core (since when beings when they are not trying to kill me/cause me pain they are ironically trying to " ascend " me - another attempt to strip power away from my inner guru and connection to source). They do this ascension with a bizarre sort of 50s morality that has no place in urban fascist american culture. They also irritate the hell out of me thinking that any being that can't take no for an answer has the capacity to " ascend " a human. I also don't need abusive parenting as a woman in my 30s..already got the A for Adult. It's a wierd balancing point for me to stay with my center with all these other consciousnesses attached to mine. I think I must keep getting back to life, consenting and intending to both grow and be of service to others even while this is happening, take refuge in Beingness itself, keep connecting to people, and know that I am still the same Laura with the same competence and capacity to love, I just have to keep refusing to be pathologized, stay strong and stay on course. Turning my forest fire into a grounded campfire, lol. I would love to take it off list, and am very open to non-conventional learning...not just now but always. Peace, Laura On 6/24/07, chrism <> wrote: > > | > When this occurred with me I was constantly compelled to hurt > others. This didn't occur as I recognized it for the overt > programming that it was. > > But like you they were relentless. Sometimes I could feel myself > slipping into the morass of their entanglements. So I decided to > converge the experiences. Every time I was being compelled to hurt > another person I would then do a complete reversal of that > programming. I would do the exact opposite but with refinements. > > So if I was compelled to do mortal damage to a person, an older > person just as an example (never happened) I would seek out an older > individual who caught my intuition as a person who could use some > help. > > I would then base my loving, selfless, service for this person, in > the real time awake periods, on the negative attacks and programming > that was given. If it was a child they wished for me to attack then > it was a child somewhere in the world that was helped. > > This wasn't what was with in their comfort zones and these types of > attacks soon ceased. This is what I refer to as a " change of > energetic patterning " As intentions and thoughts exhibit specific > frequencies of action, and I would change that pattern or I would > change the channel so to say. > > This is only one example of a change and they are as many as you can > create. > > Part of the experience is the taking over of the control of the > situation. Taking charge is a very empowering position to have and > it greatly reduces the amount of anxiety one can experience. So do > what you can, to gain the upper hand and set the platform for the > lesson to be learned that day or night. > > It really doesn't matter were they come from or what part of our > real-time experience they inhabit they are a real force to be > reckoned with and an opportunity for learning. > > I like what Dhyana is doing with her situation and she is adopting > an attitude " Bring it on and you'll get it back " very similar to > what mine was when this started up. I just had to learn how to in > this type of reality, this world. And there are many more than two. > > So Laura what I have been seeing with regards to your situation is > that you are in a holding pattern of your own development. They seem > to be doing a job. They seem to me at this point to be like worker > bees. So it appears that you have reached a threshold area in this > aspect. I am sure there is more to it but I am looking at specific > actions here and I am attempting to simplify by focusing in on a > specific activity. > > There is also a golden lining here though it is at the moment hard > to see or figure. This goes for you and Dhyana and for me. Mine was > to be forced into developing certain instincts that allowed me to a > certain way into these worlds. Some would call them " lower " worlds, > or the lower astral whatever. I will suggest that is also what is > being developed in you. > > There is another option but I wish to go off list with you and > Dhyana if she wishes to partake of it. It is an unorthodox approach > and may not attract you. > > Both of you are doing very well! You haven't become victims to it no > matter how hard or hurtful it has been and I would like you to know > how very honored I am to be in the same group as both of you. Keep > going and do not give in unless surrender is a viable option to > allay some of these issues. > > If you wish more dialog on these matters please let me know. > > Part of the answer may be in this question - > " When did smoke learn how to fly? " - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Hey Elizabeth and Adina, These are great practices for me to be reminded of, so I can keep coming back to center/source. Non-duality is my ally - finding and embracing the polar opposites of my being and especially turning/returning to love as my touchstone. Yeah, I am facing fears I didn't even know I had, lol...not in my personal karmic or emotional trajectory from this life before. Thanks for your feedback, Laura On 6/25/07, elizabeth931665 <cosmichealer1 wrote: > > Laura my love is stronger than my fear and when anything unpleasant > starts to happen i concentrate really hard on all the things i love . > I have seen things in the night in the past so i have some slight > insight into what you are going through . > All i can say is that i am now stronger as a result of what i have > been through and ready to face whatever comes in the future .I think > the scariest moment was when i had to agree to die in place of my > youngest child .In my mind it was real of course . > I guess part of moving on for me is facing my fears . > I cannot of course face yours but im cheering you on to victory . > Love elizabeth > undalini-Awakening-Systems-1 <undalini-Awakening-Systems-1%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > " L K " <spacegypsie > wrote: > > > > Thanks Elizabeth. Message received. Love and human contact is > healing for > > me. > > > > Wishing you peace and happiness, > > Laura > > > > > > > > On 6/23/07, elizabeth931665 <cosmichealer1 wrote: > > > > > > I dont pretend to be able to help you in any way but im sending > you a > > > hug and want you to know im thinking lovingly of you . > > > Love elizabeth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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