Demonstrate your Surrender Valerie

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Dear Valerie,

 

No need to fret, firstly, surrender that fretting to

God...hee hee.

 

Just relax and make a commitment to completely

surrender to the divine path, whatever is asked of

you, it's a soul commitment or else the fire cannot

totally consume you I guess, it's like asking the

caterpillar to surrender it's caterpillar way of life

so it can become a butterfly, if it wanted to hold on

to it's caterpillar days it may fight against the

transformation...no no , I wanna stay a caterpillar!!!

 

I don't think it is being suggested that you leave

your family and live in a cave, just that you are in a

state of surrender and open to what passes through

you, letting the ego stop it's control. Bye bye little

i, hello God.

We have to let go of the reins first .

Let someone else have the steering wheel for a while ,

thats surrender.

 

When Gods in the drivers seat only perfection can come

of it..... thats the journey I guess.

 

(Even though all is perfect all of the time!!!)

 

Big hug

Elektra x x x

 

 

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Let me say first off I am not trying to degrade Chris's ideas or

tarnish the thought, because it is true to a point where most can't

even comprehend what he's saying. I was trying this in the late 60's

and what he's saying is even more complex than what he has said.

Complex is arbitrary, as it is the simplest thing to do.

 

On this subject I feel that in no way ChrisM has the ability to do

some of the things expressed, not that it isn't in the right direction

or a noble cause but it is that I have been here too. It was many many

years ago and I relinquished all that I was doing out of fear. The

fear came about when one of my tantras exclaimed to me with a most

angelic expression, " we're learning to be g-ds " , and after thinking

the only thing I could say was, " in the human understanding of g-d, yes. "

 

I will say this, Elektra made a statement:

 

I don't think it is being suggested that you leave

your family and live in a cave, just that you are in a

state of surrender and open to what passes through

you, letting the ego stop it's control. Bye bye little

i, hello God.

We have to let go of the reins first .

Let someone else have the steering wheel for a while ,

thats surrender.

 

When Gods in the drivers seat only perfection can come

of it..... thats the journey I guess.

 

(Even though all is perfect all of the time!!!)

 

Big hug

Elektra x x x

 

My thought on that is, don't be too sure of that Elektra, because in

following this path all thoughts and ideas will be challenged and

tested by that fire is talking about. In the book of

Revelations it talks about this parable, this isn't a quote, but it

goes that in the end times mankind will be called by g-d to come away

from the cities. Then it goes on to explain that man will find it

easier to leave everything behind whereas women will have great

difficulty in doing so. They find it hard to leave their children and

the emotional lives they are living.

 

In a way it could be as the christed one that went into the desert,

giving up all things of this world even life, and saying either accept

me or here I die. It sounds a bit over dramatic and unrealistic but

then maybe you haven't the understanding of Shakti as I have. Most of

the things I have read about death experiences on this thread I would

call them challenges by the fire to your reasonability, your ideas

were tested by the K-Fire. I have had many experiences like the ones

described and I will relate one of my own which I will describe as a

death experience.

 

I was going through a breakup and not following my calling and in a

peaked fire mode. There was an accident where I was hurt, which was

the same thing as a 260 pound man hitting you in the head with a metal

bat at full force. I went into darkness, like drowning in a pool of

dark water. In this darkness images flooded through my mind of my

life, much bubbles of air they floated away as I sank farther and

farther into the darkness. I realized in that darkness that if I

stayed there much longer my physical body would die, I had to chose

which way to go. I may have made the wrong choice but the point is

that I had the choice and that the things that I have become

accustomed to, I returned to.

 

Anxiety is something I really need to work on. I have a teenage

stepdaughter that is totally driving me up a wall, it's that I can't

understand why this child is so dense. Must be the way her father

raised her.