Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Chrism: The Kundalini will never stop in my experience it keeps on going from the physical on up into the lighter densities. It is a lifetime process. Hi chrism. Just because nobody has finished this process does not mean that it goes on forever. There is simply not enough data. As far as I know there is nothing in nature existing as a physical form that lasts forever. It seems to be the agreed upon kundalini circle of beliefs that kundalini never stops. This is completely contrary to what I observe in my own process. Given the intensity of my experience, an average of 10 hours per day of kriya movement, nature would not design such a system. I can't work or do anything else except this. It is much like having a baby, there is no choice, it is a growing, one can only surrender to it. There would be no point in this going on forever as it would be more like a disability or a torture than a benefit. With hindsight I can see the progress of the physical changes and can see what is being done with all the k. movements. I see the intention of the whole thing, and see the beauty of it's design. I stand alone and firmly with my statement: It will end when the personality is gone -- it can't be otherwise. How long this takes is dependent upon the individual. I had asked a while ago in meditation how much longer will this take and the answer came to me very clearly: It is totally dependent upon you. This truth reverberated through me. Chrism: You are still quite young inside of it. 18 months as remarkable as it is, is still a short amount of time inside the process. But what is time? Just another illusion. As it depends upon the individual, it doesn't make sense to compare how long it takes and to know where people are in the progress simply by the number of months. All the sutures in my body are loose like a newborn baby and they articulate the joints and bones in ways I have never experienced before in my life. I can see that the skeletal work is coming to closure, but I have no idea what might come after that. I certainly have given up trying to predict when it will end. I look for anyone who might have an answer about it, but so far I come up with nothing. Yes, time as the personality experiences it is an illusion, because it is only the processing of images - past (that which already happened) or future (what if scenarios). While there is the truth of the center point and of the experiencer, and of eternity and the present moment, it still does not discount what one might prefer to be having as one's experience. I would prefer expanded awareness and a relaxatoin of body to be able to have a better joy of living. With constant body tension it is difficult to have a normal meditatoin any more, as soon as I surrender my mind the kriya's take over. Short breaks and walks result in increasing tension at the base of the skull, building bolus' of energy to move the next bone, muscle of ligament. I can hardly turn my head some days, depending upon what's being worked on. One day it's the knee, the next a hip, etc. Not to mention the discomfort of the stretches, yet I can take all easily. While I totally accept the grueling physical demands of K. transformation, I certainly will have a big celebration when it's over... Chrism: Pretenders exist. They exist for needs that are their own. Sometimes for self-aggrandizement, sometimes for self worth. Even those who do not pretend can become so imbalanced by the energetic influx upon the unconditioned ego that they exhort others to believe the absolute " rightness " of their path above all others. Because it feels so right to them. This is fine and another part of the process. Betsy: ego = personality = pretending = conditioning = blind = closed shell = little energy because all is used to protect that shell = not able to receive influx of energy. Chrism: Yes the electric teeth! I remember that very well. Happened seven years ago. I enjoy your " hard science " approach Betsy. With more people like you it will be easier for the scientists to understand! Thanks for the comment Chrism, I also wish you and everyone here a good journey. Betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Hello Betsy, Well Betsy you have answered your own question but the way I see it is as a series of stages or phases that all the bodys go through. Physical, mental, emotional, ego, spiritual, to name some of them. They all get transformed imho. This takes time. Sometimes longer sometimes shorter depends on the person, and the doors that are opened because of this tranformsation I also consider part of the process. You seem to have a solid idea and opinion about what is occurring with you and so I congratulate you for that. It is hard work I understand that but as you have got it, it also has you aswell and when you begin to have some balance inside of your process it gets easier. From my experience anyway. It seems that those who activate with a stronger initial flow will have more critical issues with the activation then one who is activating gradually. This from the experiences of those on this list and in other areas that I have looked at. Your kriyas will eventually subside. Nice to read that you ask the Kundalini questions that pertain to its action upon you. A good practice. - blessings Betsy - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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