Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Hello Betsy, Betsy- A quote from BETSY: ( No that was not my intention. > I'm sorry you saw it that way, yet I expected > that you might not like that post.) It is clearly your intention Betsy. You are writing adversarial critiques of what others have indicated are aspects of the Kriyas phenomena. You have yet to demonstrate any kindness or humility to anyone as of yet on this group. You have allowed your little (i) to run rampant all over everyone here. You seem to be going after any kind of an " authority structure " that doesn't ooh and ahh at your self perceived " mastery " due to the time you have had with your Kriyas. You're 4000 hours. Not very long compared to some and yet longer than others. What is time Betsy?...Here is another quote from BETSY about time: " Just another illusion. As it depends upon the individual, it doesn't make sense to compare how long it takes and to know where people are in the progress simply by the number of months. " So doesn't this also apply to the number of " hours " you have had with your Kriyas? You are a master of your own experience. Is that not recognition enough? You are a (currently) survivng Kundalini receiver. Is that not an accomplishment worthy of your prideful needs. You have the opportunity to become part of a community. Is that not reason enough to attempt some kindness and mutual respect for others? Yes please " offer " your information to us and we can come to our own determination as to how it feels. Each of us individually. But please do not ram it down our throats with the excuse of how much " time " you have had with in " your " experience. As if that matters to everyone. Or whether or not you have the " right " to call yourself an " authority " of it. To quote BETSY again: " Is it too much to say I might be considered an authority on the subject of Kriyas simply because I've been through so many hours of them? " Why is it so important to you to be seen as an authority? This just underlines in bold ink your lack of self confidence and your fear of not being taken seriously. Which is happening as you cannot seem to detach (yet) from your egotistical desires for recognition. As if your " time " with Kriyas makes any difference at all. Especially with what you have said of time. You are contradicting yourself consistently. Wanting to be seen as an authority but railing against others you see as an authority. Saying time is only and " illusion " yet using your " time " spent with Kriyas as a reason for being seen as an " authority " as if was some sort of teaching certificate and badge of honor. Perhaps this is why your " authority " is so " illusive " to you. By denigrating others who may think or express their views about the Kriyas phenomena differently and in ways that may not match up to your experience you only serve to highlight your own inability to communicate your views in a friendly way. It seems that you ostracize in order to hurt undercover of giving a teaching or questioning one. In order to gain power and position you seem to search out ways of expression that puts you at a place of power because you seem to feel devoid of it with out dominating another. Please clean it up Betsy. You mention on your website at how important it is for you to get your ego out of your own way. Feel free to start any time. - , " betsy " <ystebanar wrote: > > wrote: > Hello Betsy, > Wow. Kind of a volatile response. > You seem to be hunting for disagreement. > > Hi Chrism. No that was not my intention. > I'm sorry you saw it that way, yet I expected > that you might not like that post. From my > point of view I was reflecting back to what > you were expressing, seeing as how I could > not see anything in your previous reply that > was on-topic for me. I prefer to respond to > the essence of the post, and for me that was > what I did. I'm sorry the post was perceived > as volatile, instead of creative. Nothing > to do about it. > Betsy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Chrism, After reading all the posts and Betsy's web presence .... Are you guys secretly married? Both of you are obviously passionate about K, are seeking/feeling the " truth " and " source " , are strong, committed individuals with a deep sense of integrity. The energy is incredible. Don't care about who's " right " or " wrong " . I think it's a match. : ) BlessU Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Heh! Thanks Sam!, Yes a very passionate pair! - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 No " one " is wrong or right really imho. Its just the way of the communication that I take an interest in. - c , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Heh! Thanks Sam!, > Yes a very passionate pair! - chrism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Lol, the strange workings of the universe, lol. Blessings to you both! Sherri -- The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert Einstein -------------- Original message -------------- " chrism " <> Heh! Thanks Sam!, Yes a very passionate pair! - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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