Re:Question about Kriyas and related phenomena - Betsy

[Guest guest]

Thank you Betsy! I am willing to do what is needed for this process

(and I am very young in it), but I have from the beginning had major

concerns about my family. Having a toddler and husband, I love them

and have a duty to them. I was in a very bad car accident a year and

a half ago which left me with a lot of residual issues, many of which

were spontaneously healed by the Kundalini during the March

Shaktipat. I still have some problems left from the accident, am

still only able to work part time and I am severely fatigued from all

the " work " that is being done inside right now. Naturally, after

reading your account I was concerned. Thus far, the Kundalini has

been very generous with me and major " work " has been done on my " off

hours " , for which I am very grateful.

 

I wonder, have you tried out the Safeties that has provided to

us here and if so has it made any difference in your experience as

yet?

 

Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. Many of us are at

the beginnings of our journey and it helps to know what may lie ahead.

 

Sarita

 

, " betsy "

<ystebanar wrote:

>

> Sarita: After reading Betsy's intense experience with Kriyas

> and with the stretching, etc I am wondering if we all will go

> through that as well? Will we have an easier time because

> of the Safeties or is this a stage that we will all face?

>

> Sarita, I make the claim that everyone who wants to

> fully awaken will have to go through the intense kriays. This

> I can say because I can see the sense and purpose

> of it. The kriyas are the bodies way to remove the

> personality from the body. I like finding this out, because

> now I realize that all the games of people claiming to

> be enlighented and of being masters for years or the

> game of who is more aware than another is finished

> wiht the revelation of the physical step. I am so happy

> that these games of ego can be dismissed once and

> for all. I understand people

> who have not been through this have different

> opinions, and will make interpretations

> about what is my experience. I accept that, nothing

> to do about it. I want to tell anybody, yes it's hard,

> but also this is the fact of nature, growing is a physical

> process. You can not bring a child into this world without

> passing through physical body changes, growth and pain

> at labor. Do people want to continue to believe in the

> fantasy that one is spontaneously enlightened with a state

> of bliss without having to go through a physical change?

> I understand why people like to believe that.

>

> To ease people's fears, yes, it is hard but most of it is

> like going into an intense physical therapy, it hurts to

> move muscles and ligaments in ways that you have never

> done. But the pain is much like that in a work out and the

> muscles heal quickly and you are ready to go again soon.

> Individuals going through this will have different experiences

> because they have to unwind the energy cord of their

> personality, which will give each their unique challenge.

> But everyone is capable to do it and never is one given

> more than they can handle. In regards to having space

> to do it, in case this happens to you. Don't worry, what

> you need will be provided for you -- always. Not to

> mention that the kriyas for most part can be supressed,

> but you will then suffer discomfort from tension, so one

> can still do daily necessities. It's totally amazing to me

> how a human can metamorphosis while awake, not having

> to go into a cocoon or something like that.

>

> I decide to post another account today, to try to

> show the sense of all this kriya activity, that there

> is a reason for it, it has been building towards this

> event. I think it ends very soon, in that the spinal column

> and bone movement thing will finish.

>

> The tailbone physically starts to move, it tucks under towards

> the genitals and the hips rock back and forth with the sacrum

> pushing downwards in the back. The energy in the pelvic

> bowl builds and creates a huge vortex causing visible

> vibration in the legs. The spine curves, the head moves

> towards the spine, then the corkscrew like energy in the

> pelvic bowl moves up the spine to the skull. Twisting

> all tissue that is attached to any part of the spinal column

> encompassed by the dura mater. (This is possible because

> of all the kriya stretching done before, which was working

> towards this conclusion). The corkscrew moves up

> the spine twisting all and when it goes up the neck then

> the skull follows along with it, twisting around like a ball.

> this is possible that the skull turns like this because all

> the sutures and bones have been loosened from previous

> work. This is where it's at today, nearly all joints are

> perfectly aligned on both sides of the body. My shoulder

> dropped last night to a new position, the elbows are turning,

> I feel longer in body. The movement from the tailbone

> to the skull is sort of a whipping motion, sort of like

> a crayfish propelling itself through the water. If you look

> at a picture of the spinal column and skull encompassed

> by the dura mater, you will see it looks sort of like

> a tadpole. Anyway, I never expected it would be quite

> like this and still I am amazed my body is doing this.

>

> Betsy

>

[Guest guest]

Sarita: " Thus far, the Kundalini has been very generous with

me and major " work " has been done on my " off hours " ,

for which I am very grateful. "

 

thanks for sharing too Sarita. I can understand with your

position in life how it would be difficult for you to do more.

I've often thought of that, if this happens to younger people

who have children, etc. That my experience started around

menopause made sense, because it signifies the end of

the child bearing years and your children are grown. It

seems to be the perfect timing and space to allow moving

into another life -- for me.

 

Sarita: " I wonder, have you tried out the Safeties that Chrism

has provided to us here and if so has it made any difference

in your experience as yet? "

 

As I understand this process, no techniques are needed

and using them can slow things down. I fell into a period

of around two months were I got side-tracked with

using a technqiue. I finally saw it and dropped it,

going back to basics: surrender to being. And then

things progressed again, during the technique I was

stagnating.

 

Awakening is about surrendering the mind and any

technique of necessity requires use of the mind.

The only 'doing' one needs to do is surrender and then trust

that your unfolding will take care of itself. This I learned

early on and surrendered to the growing energy within.

I was taught certain things I could do to amplify my

body so that the moves were more easy to accomplish.

An insight I had early on was the more energy the better.

 

The amplification bascially charges all the meridians in

the body, then one stands and the movements happen

in the way they need to happen. (although this won't

happen until full k. activation has happened).

 

I was taught many things in the beginning mostly about how to surrender,

how to amplify my energy and what positions of the

body are the most effective to go through and in what order.

Later when more of my body's nervous system was

changed then I didn't need to go through the order of

body postures, it happens by itself. I am growing into

being, and today it's hard to tell that the kriyas are not

myself, the blur between surrendering and doing melts

into one. The order is very simple: standing, squat, sitting

with legs out front, then lying on back. This sequence by

itself maximizes the energy in the body and works the

body parts in their nature order: legs, hips, tailbone, spinal

column, neck then skull. One doesn't move in the postures,

but rather one allows one's body to move.

 

I understand that you ask, because you presume

as most do that I am having a difficult experience.

I would like to clear up this myth as well that

circulates in the K. Circles...

 

I am not having a difficult experience, I am

having a challenging and rewarding experience.

I am having a genuine experience.

I am growing into being, I am excited about it

and looking forward to see the result.

Wanting to know drives me on.

 

Betsy

[Guest guest]

Hello Betsy.

 

I am wondering where did you learn the " techniques " that you were

taught in the beginning?

 

 

, " betsy "

<ystebanar wrote:

>

> As I understand this process, no techniques are needed

> and using them can slow things down.

>

> I was taught many things in the beginning mostly about how to surrender,

> how to amplify my energy and what positions of the

> body are the most effective to go through and in what order.

>

> Betsy

>

[Guest guest]

Glen wrote:

I am wondering where did you learn the " techniques " that you were

taught in the beginning?

 

From intuition and from visions I received from dreams

at the time.

Betsy