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This is quite a telling statement. .......

 

Thank-you for being so honest about who you are.

 

Reminds me of Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfield being so surprised when all

the Muslims didn't stick together in one group but were actually many

different factions with individual thoughts, beliefs, and aspirations.

I mean, come on, they are all just a bunch of Muslims. When we get rid

of the bad guy they will all love us for doing them a favor.

 

 

Very inflammatory statements, so easily rebutted and so

self-righteously defended.

 

" just my opinion "

 

BlessU

Sam

 

 

 

, " Henry B.

Ellak** " <henrybellak wrote:

 

> California is the land of free sex and where women can go

> about 98% naked, and yet they have their babies and kill

> their babies. Least one quibble, Abortion is killing

> babies, in my opinon. I have twin brothers who were born

> at 7 months. Those who favor abortion say that it is ok to

> kill or abort at 7 months. As near as I can tell, my two

> brothers are human, yet the abortion people would have

> killed them without a thought.

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i think he's right i live in california and everyday i was walking down the

street having

naked sex and abortions!

-steve f

 

, " Sam " <dallyup52

wrote:

>

> This is quite a telling statement. .......

>

> Thank-you for being so honest about who you are.

>

> Reminds me of Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfield being so surprised when all

> the Muslims didn't stick together in one group but were actually many

> different factions with individual thoughts, beliefs, and aspirations.

> I mean, come on, they are all just a bunch of Muslims. When we get rid

> of the bad guy they will all love us for doing them a favor.

>

>

> Very inflammatory statements, so easily rebutted and so

> self-righteously defended.

>

> " just my opinion "

>

> BlessU

> Sam

>

>

>

> , " Henry B.

> Ellak** " <henrybellak@> wrote:

>

> > California is the land of free sex and where women can go

> > about 98% naked, and yet they have their babies and kill

> > their babies. Least one quibble, Abortion is killing

> > babies, in my opinon. I have twin brothers who were born

> > at 7 months. Those who favor abortion say that it is ok to

> > kill or abort at 7 months. As near as I can tell, my two

> > brothers are human, yet the abortion people would have

> > killed them without a thought.

>

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It is interesting Henry that for a person who doesn't have a high

regard for sex or the issues around sex, you tend to keep those

sexual threads alive!

 

I know you live in the desert, so people may go into more of an

unclothed state there due to the heat. Your blanket and inflamed

statements about the exposure of California women as 98% unclothed

and the statement you make of them having sex and killing their

babies is so far outside the realm of the present reality that I

have a difficult time in even answering these severe deviations from

the truth. Wake up my friend!

 

As you have been advertising, since you first arrived, it is you my

friend who has a sexual dysfunction. Not the general population of

women of any state or the people who enjoy sexual contact and

experience.

 

You have issue with this most natural of physical expressions and it

is nawing away at you to the point where you contradict your stated

feelings by exposing this issue within again and again from the

guise of posted threads about enitrely differnt subjects. It always

comes back to you and your sexual disfunction Henry.

 

Most of the women I know in California, where I live, are kind and

sweet and considerate, loving mothers and sisters and aunts and

grandmothers and yes Henry " lovers " and girlfriends and wives. They

do not kill their children or have indiscriminate abortions or run

around 98% in the nude much to the disappointment of many California

men. lol.

 

You may wish to look inside of yourself for any abuse or similar

issues of abandonment that may have seeded such feelings and

outrages within you and may be a factor in your avoiding

reconciliation or balance by virtue of an intentional or otherwise

displacement and denial of this issue in your life.

 

Sex is good. Women are an expression of a grace and joy and love

made vibrant in the clothing of flesh. During and after, before and

outside of sex!

 

Wake up Henry my friend!

 

Deal with your issues and instead of hiding behind the mask of

celibacy; bring yourself to at least understand the feminine aspect

of who " you " are. A beautiful and vibrant person Henry. Meet your

self in the eyes of a beautiful woman and love her for all her gifts

from those of the heart and mind and yes Henry of the flesh. Know

her and heal yourself Henry.

 

Open your heart and " feel " . T

 

he " mind " is a child crying in its loneliness let her fill your

need, - Blessings and hope - chrism

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Hello everyone.

 

Society's preoccupation with human sexuality belies its actual level of

importance in the scheme of things. One wonders if the world was as

preoccupied with other mammalian functions - eg. defecation - whether

people would find ways to stop doing them too? lol

 

Correct me if I am wrong someone, but does not a healthy and vibrant

sexual expression aid in the rising of kundalini? Does it not follow

that by keeping the lower chakras active and energised one can create

some " upward pressure " ? In other words, celibacy and denial of sexuality

(quite apart from issues relating to imbalance) is necessary to a

successful awakening? Or have I misunderstood something?

 

Another question: is it possible that sexual orgasm is just the " poor

(wo)man's " bliss - the lower octave of a much higher experience that is

available to awakened and enlightened souls?

 

Last question for my notebook: can it be that an awakened soul who is

infused with the shakti is tending towards androgeny with perfect

balance between male & female, fire & water? In which case they no

longer actively seek the opposite through sexual contact? ie. a celibacy

that is natural, born of balance and enlightenment?

 

I wish you all much love and light (and bliss).

 

Reg

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Yes It is true that sexuality is an important " part " of the

Kundalini process. So is celebacy, as an option, that can aid the

GFA in the redirection of what the awakening can bring. Also with

regards to the androgenous aspect Reg you are very astute. The " two

that are one " are aspects of both genders in a framework

of " oneness " .

 

These are all aspects of the Kundalini journey. They are needed and

necessary components of choice within that journey.

 

With regard to Henry this is not what was being related as that

conversation was directed towards the issues that have been raised

by him repeatadly and are not with in the context of the Kundalini

as far as I can see.

 

I could be mistaken though as perhaps he is the catalyst for

this " new " discussion. You are quite correct in your

questions/answers though Reg. - thank you for stating them. - chrism

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Oops. Sorry, i am confused.

 

I wrote ... " In other words, celibacy and denial of sexuality (quite

apart from issues relating to imbalance) is necessary to a successful

awakening? "

 

This is quite the opposite of what I intended which was this ... Is

celibacy and denial of sexuality perhaps COUNTERPRODUCTIVE to the

awakening process?

 

Sorry about the confusion.

 

Thank you.

Reg

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