For those who may wish to give Shaktipat - ethical responsibility

[Guest guest]

Hi Larry,

 

You are right: the K is the ultimate blessing any human being might

have. And yet, for those who are not ready, the blessing can be very

troublesome. If the recipient is not ready, any energy

transmission--even a simple reiki attunement--may have undesirable

consequences.

 

I know of a woman who, many years ago, went for a reiki attunement,

and got so screwed up by the energy transmission that she lost her

mind. Now she is regarded as clinically insane. She didn't have any of

the symptoms before the reiki master started working on her. I guess

she received an involuntary shaktipat (as it occasionally happens with

reiki attunements) that went terribly wrong due to her lack of

preparation. Due to his ignorance of kundalini processes, the reiki

master was not able to help her, either. I had a long chat with him a

couple of weeks ago. The man was so devastated that he has stopped

practicing reiki altogether.

 

Reiki attunement aside, this woman's story is a bit like Gopi

Krishna's--with the difference that Krishna handled it pretty well,

partly because his activation happened spontaneously. She didn't,

because the energy was accidentally dumped on her from an external

source rather than emerging from her own self through an internal

maturation process.

 

IMHO, anybody giving shaktipat without permission needs to be ready to

deal with the karmic fallout pertaining to messing with somebody

else's life. Those who do so with permission still need to have the

knowledge and experience that is needed to handle the difficult

situations that might arise if the recipient is not ready.

 

Sel

 

 

, " Larry "

<larry.wyer wrote:

>

> > Please notify " in advance " anyone to whom a Shaktipat is going to

> be

> > given and receive the intended recipient's permission " first "

> before

> > administering any Shaktipat or transference that could initiate

>

> I have some issues about this. First why say such a thing? True

> it's wrong to send the power or to awaken some one with out their

> permission, but to block or refuse to answer questions and explain

> powers as a fault is also wrong. Plus to bring about fear and false

> beliefs are equally wrong. This is why many do not go to churches

> with these things that are talk about here, out of fear of being

> rejected from ones peers. This gift is a force or power or what ever

> titles one wish to give, is within our self's. It's not ours alone

> but belongs to everyone as it lives in all living things and is the

> true nature of love and is the pure start of our own existence. I

> also have issues about people taking money to but it's theirs to

> bare not mine. There is no need for anyone to experience pain or

> stress. The truth can only come from the highest source and frees

> ones ideas and beliefs and prejudices much as that of a young child.

> They are for all people who are searching for meaning to existence,

> purpose in their lives, strength to face the daily struggle to live

> and endure hardship, sickness, despair, of everyday life.

>

[Guest guest]

, " selena230 "

<selena230 wrote:

>

> Hi Larry,

>

> You are right: the K is the ultimate blessing any human being might

> have. And yet, for those who are not ready, the blessing can be

very

> troublesome. If the recipient is not ready, any energy

> transmission--even a simple reiki attunement--may have undesirable

> consequences.

>

Hello Sel,

I do not know this lady or even what has happen to her, however

though, can you truly say you know her? Can the teacher who may have

made this happen. Can they truly say they know her? Above all can

she say she know her self? I'm sure you understand we can not begain

to except what is going on, till we first understand the nature of

our own begaining. I am not saying it's good to blast unknowing

people with the power, but understand it's not one to be fear for

those who are looking. To bring about fear and concern has been used

for years to force people away from true love. It has become, the

time set a side these things and awaken the true meaning of unversal

existence. We have brought about enough fear.

with Love Larry

[Guest guest]

I think we are talking about two different issues here.

 

One is that of fear, which you are raising. Excessive fear of the

kundalini has traditionally been used to keep people away--I agree

with you.

 

On the other hand, there is the issue of the risks that may be

involved in an activation. Personally, I have had a considerable share

of trouble when I was younger and trying to awaken my K without

knowing much about it. If others hadn't occasionally seen the entities

that pestered me, I would have seriously questioned my own sanity.

 

The fact that irrational fear of the K should not be promoted doesn't

mean that we should throw away all cautions. Just like with anything

else, there are risks involved. This is why, for those who are on this

path, it is advisable to be in the company of people who have some

degree of experience in these matters.

 

Regarding the woman who became insane after a reiki attunement: I

don't know her personally, but my husband and my in-laws have known

her for 40 years. The consensus is that she had an extreme reaction

during the attunement itself, after which she was never the same

again. The reiki master's diagnosis was " too much energy: she couldn't

handle it. " To draw on a personal experience again: My first K surge

happened unexpectedly after a reiki attunement; based on what other

people have reported, too, this is a very possible scenario. I don't

think it's too far-fetched to speculate that the woman might have had

received an accidental activation, too.

 

Regardless of whether she did or not, there is no doubt that the K is

the ultimate blessing; however, when the energy surges through you and

blows your world apart, you KNOW that you are dealing with something

that needs to be treated with extreme respect.

 

Sel

 

 

, " Larry "

<larry.wyer wrote:

>

> , " selena230 "

> <selena230@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Larry,

> >

> > You are right: the K is the ultimate blessing any human being might

> > have. And yet, for those who are not ready, the blessing can be

> very

> > troublesome. If the recipient is not ready, any energy

> > transmission--even a simple reiki attunement--may have undesirable

> > consequences.

> >

> Hello Sel,

> I do not know this lady or even what has happen to her, however

> though, can you truly say you know her? Can the teacher who may have

> made this happen. Can they truly say they know her? Above all can

> she say she know her self? I'm sure you understand we can not begain

> to except what is going on, till we first understand the nature of

> our own begaining. I am not saying it's good to blast unknowing

> people with the power, but understand it's not one to be fear for

> those who are looking. To bring about fear and concern has been used

> for years to force people away from true love. It has become, the

> time set a side these things and awaken the true meaning of unversal

> existence. We have brought about enough fear.

> with Love Larry

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Selena:

 

Well, i may as well get my feet wet. Hi everyone, this is my first

post. May i suggest to this lady, if she's interested, to get someone

to remove the reiki symbols from her energy system pronto. It's

worth a try. It may take some looking to find someone qualified to

do this. I have heard of problems arising from reiki initiations.

For that individual it was from the energies of the symbols placed

there and the energies of the individual who placed them there.

 

 

 

Moon

>

> Regarding the woman who became insane after a reiki attunement: I

> don't know her personally, but my husband and my in-laws have known

> her for 40 years. The consensus is that she had an extreme reaction

> during the attunement itself, after which she was never the same

> again. The reiki master's diagnosis was " too much energy: she

couldn't

> handle it. " To draw on a personal experience again: My first K surge

> happened unexpectedly after a reiki attunement; based on what other

> people have reported, too, this is a very possible scenario. I don't

> think it's too far-fetched to speculate that the woman might have

had

> received an accidental activation, too.

[Guest guest]

, " selena230 "

<selena230 wrote:

>

> I think we are talking about two different issues here.

>

> One is that of fear, which you are raising. Excessive fear of the

> kundalini has traditionally been used to keep people away--I agree

> with you.

>

> On the other hand, there is the issue of the risks that may be

> involved in an activation.

 

Yes, I agree with you. You are right my point was the first. I just

felt, it needed to be said, as many new people are coming here and

if you read the first few post it made it sound scary and bad. I

would say, lets be careful of what we post as all are not fully in

tune with what's going on. If I had read the first few post, when I

first had my visions, I would have been very scared. With that said

I'm leaving this alone as, I think we have made our points.

 

With love Larry