Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 This is a term provided by Samael Aun Weor, some of his follower's feel he got from South America. It's a " Gnostic " term. To me it is an attempt by him to explain some of the difficult conditions of the Kundalini with in a Christian context. The use of Satan and the " down ward " activation and so forth. He describes it as an organ some also describe it as a buffer. It is mainly for those who wish to study the Kundalini with in the areas of polarity of action and intention. It also gives somewhat of a blame target for the kundartiguadors existence and therefore the innocence of humanity as the victim of a larger scenario. I do not feel we are victims. We make choices and we learn from the consequences of those choices. This includes choices made before the flesh is born and the body received. We have issues that need resolution and we strive to do that inside a limited sense equation where we must make choices based upon our intuitive feelings whether those come to us as feelings or urges or in social structures of belief systems. I do not advocate a downward activation due to the pain and the confusion and some of the other more unfortunate experiences one can have. Doesn't mean there won't be those who wish to go there. Doesn't mean they do not have every right to do so. Sometimes these experiences are part of the polishing of the stone and they need to be had. So I do not judge them or insinuate causative action or suggest goodness or badness. It is their experience and until it infringes by intention or action or both upon those who do not wish it that experience will be seen as an option. Besides avitohol1 said his activation went up not down though NOW that he's been TOLD he will try to put it down I'm sure. Whose Karma is that Eh? We will reap the rewards of our actions upon others. I recall a claim of making others disappear(smile). Doesn't matter. Yhe experience and intentions will condition actions and the person will learn eventually. We all do. We will also learn that being balanced allows one to see through fear and those who may monger it by accident or on purpose. Here is what Sam Aun Weor said about this and I give it very limited credence as he was only partial in his understandings and subject to the fears and the trappings of fear promulgated by his interpretation of his belief system and those who would build in a fearful direction by instilling fear based experiences upon him - but you see how it comes across to you. - " Many millions of years have passed since the terrifying night of the past, in which we began slowly evolving and devolving. Yet, the human being still does not know who he is, where he comes from, nor where is he going to. A lethargy of many centuries weighs over the ancient mysteries, yet, the Verb still awaits at the bottom of the Ark for the instant of its realization. Behind the Edenic tradition, there is a terrible cosmic desideratum and sacred errors which frighten and horrify. The Gods also make mistakes. Thus, today, as all times, we are confronting our own destiny. We face the psychological dilemma of: " To be, or not to be? " Much has been said about the Sacred Serpent, yet, now we are going to clearly talk about the Kundartiguador Organ. All of the efforts made by Prophets, Avatars and Gods in order to end the harmful consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ have been in vain. It is necessary to know that the Kundartiguador Organ is the negative development of the fire. This is the descending serpent, which precipitates itself from the coccyx downwards, towards the atomic infernos of the human being. The Kundartiguador Organ is the horrifying tail of Satan, which is shown in the " body of desires " of the Intellectual Animal, who in the present times is falsely called man. What is worst, which hurts the soul the most, is to know that the ones who gave the Kundartiguador Organ to this humanity were some sacred individuals. Ancient traditions state that during the Lemurian epoch, certain sacred individuals came to the Earth in a cosmic astro-ship. These individuals were forming a very high sacred commission, which was entrusted with studying the evolving and devolving problems of the Earth and its humanity. The Archangel Sakaki and the Principal Archphysicist and Universal- Common-Chemist Angel Loisos were the two main individuals from this holy divine commission. This sacred commission of ineffable beings is behind the whole drama of Eden. They came with bodies of flesh and bones, their ship landed on Lemuria. During that ancient age, the human instinct was starting to develop itself into objective reasoning. This very high commission could verify to satiety that the Edenic human being already started to suspect the motive of his creation. The Lemurian Root Race had started to guess the true motives of its own existence, a miserable existence, with just mechanical motives. Each human being is a little machine who captures and transforms cosmic energies. Then he unconsciously adapts these energies into the interior layers of the earth. Thus, we are human machines...nothing else. What would this world be without the human machines? Without this seal, without this physiognomy which is supplied by this humanity, the planet would be without a purpose. Thus, everything which is without purpose ceases to exist. Humanity as a whole is an organ from Nature. This organ collects and assimilates cosmic energies, which are necessary for the development of this planetary organism. Disgracefully, to be a machine is not very pleasant, yet, it is what the so-called human being is...he is a machine...that is what he is...yes, that, and nothing else. When a rebel rises with his weapons against Nature, when he wants to stop being a machine, then, the tenebrous powers fight against him to death. The human beings who are capable of fighting the tenebrous forces, to fight against Nature, against the cosmos, etc., are very rare. Commonly, these type of rebels capitulate. Many are called, yet few are chosen. Only a few individuals attain the victory against Nature and achieve the right to sit on the throne of power in order to rule over it. The Lemurians already had suspected all of this. They understood with their instinct that human beings, after having offered their services as machines to this Nature, were becoming perverse. Everywhere, within all of the corners of Lemuria, the whole of this tragedy was instinctively suspected. Yet, this tragedy wanted to appear into the Lemurian's objective reasoning. Therefore, this Sacred Commission, after having serenely inspected this problem, resolved to take drastic cosmic procedures in order to avoid the total dissolution of the human genre and even mass suicide. Great cosmic desiderata are behind Adam and Eve. This Sacred Commission is what is hidden behind that drama and Edenic scenario. Thus, everything was fulfilled and the human being received the damned stigma, the Kundartiguador Organ. In the course of time.. maybe many centuries after.. .the Holy Commission returned, this time commanded by the Archseraphim Sevohtartra, due to the fact that the Archangel Sakaki had converted himself into one of the four tetra-sustainers of the Universe. Traditions state that they returned precisely three years later. Nonetheless, these three years are always symbolic. The fact then was that after a severe examination of the situation, the Archphycisian and Chemist Angel Loisos destroyed the Kundartiguador Organ from within the human race, since the human race did not need it any more. The human being had abandoned all of his suspicions as he had become fascinated with the beauties of this world. The Gods saved the human being from a great crisis. They achieved in making the human being fascinated with this world, in order that he could live within it as any planetary citizen. Yet, the Gods could not save him from the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ. Truly, the evil consequences of such an organ were converted into mistaken habits and customs, that entered the depths of our psyche and became converted into the subconsciousness. Thus, the subconsciousness is the same Ego or the Psychological `I', that is rooted in the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ. The Most Saintly Ashiata Shiemash fought very hard in order to take the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ out from humanity. The Holy Lama in Tibet also suffered very much in order to save humanity from the horrifying consequences of the mentioned fatal organ. Buddha, Jesus, Moses and other Masters passed through much bitterness in order to liberate humanity from the disastrous consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ. Therefore, the Sacred Commission of Ineffable Beings threw upon their shoulders a terrible cosmic karma. They will pay such karma in the future Manvantara. Listen to me, Gnostic Brethren: You must comprehend that you can end the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ only with the three factors of the revolution of the consciousness. These three factors are: a) Death of the Psychological " I " ; b) Birth of the Being within us; c) Sacrifice for Humanity. The " I " dies based on rigorous creative comprehension. The Being is born within us with the Maithuna (sexual magic). Sacrifice for humanity is charity and very well understood love. The schools which teach the ejaculation of semen, even when they do this in a very mystical way, are really black schools, because the Kundartiguador Organ is developed with such a practice. The schools which teach the connection of the Lingam Yoni without the ejaculation of semen are white schools, because this is how the Kundalini rises through the medullar canal. The schools which teach how to strengthen the psychological `I' are black schools, because the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ are strengthened with that procedure. The schools which teach the dissolution of the " I " (mystical death) are white schools, because they destroy the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ. The Kundartiguador Organ is the tail of Satan. It is the sexual fire descending from the coccyx downwards towards the atomic infernos of the human being. -- " Technique for Dissolving the 'I' " by the Master Samael Aun Weor join to post , Israel ElShaddai <awakened_adept wrote: > > This is what is know as the Kundartiguador (tail of satan) descending and not rising. those that awaken the kundali by methods impure are bound to become demons eventhough they may think that they are holy. I do not judge anyone, all I'M saying is that in the internal world you see those that belong to the black lodge or the white lodge according to how their kundalini is rising or descending. > > Inverential Peace! > > chrism <> wrote: > This is a normal, albeit unprepared, activation. Starts out as an > advertiziment for the " Church of Satan " . Avitohol1 are you a member > of this church? Are you the person in the video? His pain came from > his lack of preparation. His fears, mixed with his desires, produce > an amplified version of themselves drawing him into his special > conclusions. > > This isnt an abnormal Kundalini event his conjectures and experience > with it may be unbalanced due to his incomplete understanding and > his chosen lifestyle. - > > , " avituhol " > <avituhol@> wrote: > > > > ...here is a link to the video , what is this Kundalini ! > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 The Heavens rejoice more for one repented sinner than for 99 righteous that need no repentance. In that sense you are correct dear friend, there are those of us who have gone to the most infernal regions, have completely repented, have made our way back to the Heavens and have given up the infinite joy and bliss of nirvana to come to the aid of this suffering humanity. You are right We are not victims because everyone has a choice to make whether that choice is the correct one to make, it is all up to the Soul that makes it. Yet as older brethren We have a responsibility to advice and guide those younger than us be it physically or Spiritually. Sort of like a Father or Mother Nurturing and instructing her Children. I will tell you this though, Those Strong Souls that go through major hardships are true role models for others that Judge or criticize them. Those that walk the middle path are hated by both the Black and The White Lodge yet at the same time Wonder why The Creator Shows Gives Us more Love Wisdom and Compassion. Both are Really arrogant. But the truth of the matter is that in the end it is the WILL of The Father That Counts, Praise The Lord! Your insight is thoughtful and I commend that you teach those Souls to awaken the fiery serpent and rise it upwards and not downwards, because the fact of the matter is that given the knowledge the aspirant or initiate will either choose to rise or fall and it is not up to us to judge for only the lords of karma (Galactic Spiritual Government) have that authority. All I know is that This suffering humanity needs all the help it can get and We The Children of The White Lodge will do absolutly everything in our power granted by The GOD Within Us All to aid and teach and lead by example any single human being that requires assistance. We love our true brethren as well as our true enemies because our true anemies are also our bretheren. To fully overstand the Higher mysteries We need to be fully conscious in the so called Awaken hours as well as the hour of sleep so that we may commune with the Angels Archangels and other aspirants and initiates. In other words We must Awaken the consciousness and teach and show others how to do the same. IAO In Spirit and In Truth Israel Emmanuel El'Shaddai Inverential Peace! chrism <> wrote: This is a term provided by Samael Aun Weor, some of his follower's feel he got from South America. It's a " Gnostic " term. To me it is an attempt by him to explain some of the difficult conditions of the Kundalini with in a Christian context. The use of Satan and the " down ward " activation and so forth. He describes it as an organ some also describe it as a buffer. It is mainly for those who wish to study the Kundalini with in the areas of polarity of action and intention. It also gives somewhat of a blame target for the kundartiguadors existence and therefore the innocence of humanity as the victim of a larger scenario. I do not feel we are victims. We make choices and we learn from the consequences of those choices. This includes choices made before the flesh is born and the body received. We have issues that need resolution and we strive to do that inside a limited sense equation where we must make choices based upon our intuitive feelings whether those come to us as feelings or urges or in social structures of belief systems. I do not advocate a downward activation due to the pain and the confusion and some of the other more unfortunate experiences one can have. Doesn't mean there won't be those who wish to go there. Doesn't mean they do not have every right to do so. Sometimes these experiences are part of the polishing of the stone and they need to be had. So I do not judge them or insinuate causative action or suggest goodness or badness. It is their experience and until it infringes by intention or action or both upon those who do not wish it that experience will be seen as an option. Besides avitohol1 said his activation went up not down though NOW that he's been TOLD he will try to put it down I'm sure. Whose Karma is that Eh? We will reap the rewards of our actions upon others. I recall a claim of making others disappear(smile). Doesn't matter. Yhe experience and intentions will condition actions and the person will learn eventually. We all do. We will also learn that being balanced allows one to see through fear and those who may monger it by accident or on purpose. Here is what Sam Aun Weor said about this and I give it very limited credence as he was only partial in his understandings and subject to the fears and the trappings of fear promulgated by his interpretation of his belief system and those who would build in a fearful direction by instilling fear based experiences upon him - but you see how it comes across to you. - " Many millions of years have passed since the terrifying night of the past, in which we began slowly evolving and devolving. Yet, the human being still does not know who he is, where he comes from, nor where is he going to. A lethargy of many centuries weighs over the ancient mysteries, yet, the Verb still awaits at the bottom of the Ark for the instant of its realization. Behind the Edenic tradition, there is a terrible cosmic desideratum and sacred errors which frighten and horrify. The Gods also make mistakes. Thus, today, as all times, we are confronting our own destiny. We face the psychological dilemma of: " To be, or not to be? " Much has been said about the Sacred Serpent, yet, now we are going to clearly talk about the Kundartiguador Organ. All of the efforts made by Prophets, Avatars and Gods in order to end the harmful consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ have been in vain. It is necessary to know that the Kundartiguador Organ is the negative development of the fire. This is the descending serpent, which precipitates itself from the coccyx downwards, towards the atomic infernos of the human being. The Kundartiguador Organ is the horrifying tail of Satan, which is shown in the " body of desires " of the Intellectual Animal, who in the present times is falsely called man. What is worst, which hurts the soul the most, is to know that the ones who gave the Kundartiguador Organ to this humanity were some sacred individuals. Ancient traditions state that during the Lemurian epoch, certain sacred individuals came to the Earth in a cosmic astro-ship. These individuals were forming a very high sacred commission, which was entrusted with studying the evolving and devolving problems of the Earth and its humanity. The Archangel Sakaki and the Principal Archphysicist and Universal- Common-Chemist Angel Loisos were the two main individuals from this holy divine commission. This sacred commission of ineffable beings is behind the whole drama of Eden. They came with bodies of flesh and bones, their ship landed on Lemuria. During that ancient age, the human instinct was starting to develop itself into objective reasoning. This very high commission could verify to satiety that the Edenic human being already started to suspect the motive of his creation. The Lemurian Root Race had started to guess the true motives of its own existence, a miserable existence, with just mechanical motives. Each human being is a little machine who captures and transforms cosmic energies. Then he unconsciously adapts these energies into the interior layers of the earth. Thus, we are human machines...nothing else. What would this world be without the human machines? Without this seal, without this physiognomy which is supplied by this humanity, the planet would be without a purpose. Thus, everything which is without purpose ceases to exist. Humanity as a whole is an organ from Nature. This organ collects and assimilates cosmic energies, which are necessary for the development of this planetary organism. Disgracefully, to be a machine is not very pleasant, yet, it is what the so-called human being is...he is a machine...that is what he is...yes, that, and nothing else. When a rebel rises with his weapons against Nature, when he wants to stop being a machine, then, the tenebrous powers fight against him to death. The human beings who are capable of fighting the tenebrous forces, to fight against Nature, against the cosmos, etc., are very rare. Commonly, these type of rebels capitulate. Many are called, yet few are chosen. Only a few individuals attain the victory against Nature and achieve the right to sit on the throne of power in order to rule over it. The Lemurians already had suspected all of this. They understood with their instinct that human beings, after having offered their services as machines to this Nature, were becoming perverse. Everywhere, within all of the corners of Lemuria, the whole of this tragedy was instinctively suspected. Yet, this tragedy wanted to appear into the Lemurian's objective reasoning. Therefore, this Sacred Commission, after having serenely inspected this problem, resolved to take drastic cosmic procedures in order to avoid the total dissolution of the human genre and even mass suicide. Great cosmic desiderata are behind Adam and Eve. This Sacred Commission is what is hidden behind that drama and Edenic scenario. Thus, everything was fulfilled and the human being received the damned stigma, the Kundartiguador Organ. In the course of time.. maybe many centuries after.. .the Holy Commission returned, this time commanded by the Archseraphim Sevohtartra, due to the fact that the Archangel Sakaki had converted himself into one of the four tetra-sustainers of the Universe. Traditions state that they returned precisely three years later. Nonetheless, these three years are always symbolic. The fact then was that after a severe examination of the situation, the Archphycisian and Chemist Angel Loisos destroyed the Kundartiguador Organ from within the human race, since the human race did not need it any more. The human being had abandoned all of his suspicions as he had become fascinated with the beauties of this world. The Gods saved the human being from a great crisis. They achieved in making the human being fascinated with this world, in order that he could live within it as any planetary citizen. Yet, the Gods could not save him from the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ. Truly, the evil consequences of such an organ were converted into mistaken habits and customs, that entered the depths of our psyche and became converted into the subconsciousness. Thus, the subconsciousness is the same Ego or the Psychological `I', that is rooted in the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ. The Most Saintly Ashiata Shiemash fought very hard in order to take the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ out from humanity. The Holy Lama in Tibet also suffered very much in order to save humanity from the horrifying consequences of the mentioned fatal organ. Buddha, Jesus, Moses and other Masters passed through much bitterness in order to liberate humanity from the disastrous consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ. Therefore, the Sacred Commission of Ineffable Beings threw upon their shoulders a terrible cosmic karma. They will pay such karma in the future Manvantara. Listen to me, Gnostic Brethren: You must comprehend that you can end the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ only with the three factors of the revolution of the consciousness. These three factors are: a) Death of the Psychological " I " ; b) Birth of the Being within us; c) Sacrifice for Humanity. The " I " dies based on rigorous creative comprehension. The Being is born within us with the Maithuna (sexual magic). Sacrifice for humanity is charity and very well understood love. The schools which teach the ejaculation of semen, even when they do this in a very mystical way, are really black schools, because the Kundartiguador Organ is developed with such a practice. The schools which teach the connection of the Lingam Yoni without the ejaculation of semen are white schools, because this is how the Kundalini rises through the medullar canal. The schools which teach how to strengthen the psychological `I' are black schools, because the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ are strengthened with that procedure. The schools which teach the dissolution of the " I " (mystical death) are white schools, because they destroy the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ. The Kundartiguador Organ is the tail of Satan. It is the sexual fire descending from the coccyx downwards towards the atomic infernos of the human being. -- " Technique for Dissolving the 'I' " by the Master Samael Aun Weor join to post , Israel ElShaddai <awakened_adept wrote: > > This is what is know as the Kundartiguador (tail of satan) descending and not rising. those that awaken the kundali by methods impure are bound to become demons eventhough they may think that they are holy. I do not judge anyone, all I'M saying is that in the internal world you see those that belong to the black lodge or the white lodge according to how their kundalini is rising or descending. > > Inverential Peace! > > chrism <> wrote: > This is a normal, albeit unprepared, activation. Starts out as an > advertiziment for the " Church of Satan " . Avitohol1 are you a member > of this church? Are you the person in the video? His pain came from > his lack of preparation. His fears, mixed with his desires, produce > an amplified version of themselves drawing him into his special > conclusions. > > This isnt an abnormal Kundalini event his conjectures and experience > with it may be unbalanced due to his incomplete understanding and > his chosen lifestyle. - > > , " avituhol " > <avituhol@> wrote: > > > > ...here is a link to the video , what is this Kundalini ! > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Yeah i just got done reading the secret Fire by Samael Aun Weor. Frankly I don't buy into the nonsense about kundalini Forming a " satanic tail " made up of satanic atoms blah blah I think thats just plain silly,Probably a check a way to prevent people from focusing to much on the sexual energy etc etc.I could be wrong has anyone here experienced anything like this repulsive black serpent tail talked about? The kundabuffer organ as far as i can tell inside of me is the hip bone,it seems heavily earthed as robert bruce puts it.there seems to be two clamps on the joints that holds the energy in place also.its strange i don't understand it completly , " chrism " <> wrote: > > This is a term provided by Samael Aun Weor, some of his follower's > feel he got from South America. It's a " Gnostic " term. To me it is > an attempt by him to explain some of the difficult conditions of the > Kundalini with in a Christian context. The use of Satan and > the " down ward " activation and so forth. > > He describes it as an organ some also describe it as a buffer. It is > mainly for those who wish to study the Kundalini with in the areas > of polarity of action and intention. It also gives somewhat of a > blame target for the kundartiguadors existence and therefore the > innocence of humanity as the victim of a larger scenario. > > I do not feel we are victims. We make choices and we learn from the > consequences of those choices. This includes choices made before the > flesh is born and the body received. We have issues that need > resolution and we strive to do that inside a limited sense equation > where we must make choices based upon our intuitive feelings whether > those come to us as feelings or urges or in social structures of > belief systems. > > I do not advocate a downward activation due to the pain and the > confusion and some of the other more unfortunate experiences one can > have. Doesn't mean there won't be those who wish to go there. > Doesn't mean they do not have every right to do so. Sometimes these > experiences are part of the polishing of the stone and they need to > be had. > > So I do not judge them or insinuate causative action or suggest > goodness or badness. It is their experience and until it infringes > by intention or action or both upon those who do not wish it that > experience will be seen as an option. Besides avitohol1 said his > activation went up not down though NOW that he's been TOLD he will > try to put it down I'm sure. Whose Karma is that Eh? > > We will reap the rewards of our actions upon others. I recall a > claim of making others disappear(smile). Doesn't matter. Yhe > experience and intentions will condition actions and the person will > learn eventually. We all do. We will also learn that being > balanced allows one to see through fear and those who may monger it > by accident or on purpose. > > > Here is what Sam Aun Weor said about this and I give it very limited > credence as he was only partial in his understandings and subject to > the fears and the trappings of fear promulgated by his > interpretation of his belief system and those who would build in a > fearful direction by instilling fear based experiences upon him - > but you see how it comes across to you. > - > > > " Many millions of years have passed since the terrifying night of > the past, in which we began slowly evolving and devolving. Yet, the > human being still does not know who he is, where he comes from, nor > where is he going to. > > A lethargy of many centuries weighs over the ancient mysteries, yet, > the Verb still awaits at the bottom of the Ark for the instant of > its realization. > > Behind the Edenic tradition, there is a terrible cosmic desideratum > and sacred errors which frighten and horrify. > > The Gods also make mistakes. > > Thus, today, as all times, we are confronting our own destiny. We > face the psychological dilemma of: " To be, or not to be? " > > Much has been said about the Sacred Serpent, yet, now we are going > to clearly talk about the Kundartiguador Organ. > > All of the efforts made by Prophets, Avatars and Gods in order to > end the harmful consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ have been > in vain. > > It is necessary to know that the Kundartiguador Organ is the > negative development of the fire. This is the descending serpent, > which precipitates itself from the coccyx downwards, towards the > atomic infernos of the human being. > > The Kundartiguador Organ is the horrifying tail of Satan, which is > shown in the " body of desires " of the Intellectual Animal, who in > the present times is falsely called man. > > What is worst, which hurts the soul the most, is to know that the > ones who gave the Kundartiguador Organ to this humanity were some > sacred individuals. > > Ancient traditions state that during the Lemurian epoch, certain > sacred individuals came to the Earth in a cosmic astro-ship. > > These individuals were forming a very high sacred commission, which > was entrusted with studying the evolving and devolving problems of > the Earth and its humanity. > > The Archangel Sakaki and the Principal Archphysicist and Universal- > Common-Chemist Angel Loisos were the two main individuals from this > holy divine commission. > > This sacred commission of ineffable beings is behind the whole drama > of Eden. They came with bodies of flesh and bones, their ship landed > on Lemuria. During that ancient age, the human instinct was starting > to develop itself into objective reasoning. > > This very high commission could verify to satiety that the Edenic > human being already started to suspect the motive of his creation. > > The Lemurian Root Race had started to guess the true motives of its > own existence, a miserable existence, with just mechanical motives. > > Each human being is a little machine who captures and transforms > cosmic energies. Then he unconsciously adapts these energies into > the interior layers of the earth. Thus, we are human > machines...nothing else. What would this world be without the human > machines? > > Without this seal, without this physiognomy which is supplied by > this humanity, the planet would be without a purpose. Thus, > everything which is without purpose ceases to exist. > > Humanity as a whole is an organ from Nature. This organ collects and > assimilates cosmic energies, which are necessary for the development > of this planetary organism. Disgracefully, to be a machine is not > very pleasant, yet, it is what the so-called human > being is...he is a machine...that is what he is...yes, that, and > nothing else. > > When a rebel rises with his weapons against Nature, when he wants to > stop being a machine, then, the tenebrous powers fight against him > to death. > > The human beings who are capable of fighting the tenebrous forces, > to fight against Nature, against the cosmos, etc., are very rare. > Commonly, these type of rebels capitulate. > > Many are called, yet few are chosen. Only a few individuals attain > the victory against Nature and achieve the right to sit on the > throne of power in order to rule over it. > > The Lemurians already had suspected all of this. They understood > with their instinct that human beings, after having offered their > services as machines to this Nature, were becoming perverse. > > Everywhere, within all of the corners of Lemuria, the whole of this > tragedy was instinctively suspected. Yet, this tragedy wanted to > appear into the Lemurian's objective reasoning. > > Therefore, this Sacred Commission, after having serenely inspected > this problem, resolved to take drastic cosmic procedures in order to > avoid the total dissolution of the > human genre and even mass suicide. > > Great cosmic desiderata are behind Adam and Eve. This Sacred > Commission is what is hidden behind that drama and Edenic scenario. > Thus, everything was fulfilled and the human being received the > damned stigma, the Kundartiguador Organ. > > In the course of time.. maybe many centuries after.. .the Holy > Commission returned, this time commanded by the Archseraphim > Sevohtartra, due to the fact that the Archangel Sakaki had converted > himself into one of the four tetra-sustainers of the Universe. > > Traditions state that they returned precisely three years later. > Nonetheless, these three years are always symbolic. > > The fact then was that after a severe examination of the situation, > the Archphycisian and Chemist Angel Loisos destroyed the > Kundartiguador Organ from within the human race, since the human > race did not need it any more. The human being had abandoned all of > his suspicions as he had become fascinated with the beauties of this > world. > > The Gods saved the human being from a great crisis. They achieved in > making the human being fascinated with this world, in order that he > could live within it as any planetary citizen. Yet, the Gods could > not save him from the evil consequences of the > Kundartiguador Organ. > > Truly, the evil consequences of such an organ were converted into > mistaken habits and customs, that entered the depths of our psyche > and became converted into the subconsciousness. > > Thus, the subconsciousness is the same Ego or the Psychological `I', > that is rooted in the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ. > > The Most Saintly Ashiata Shiemash fought very hard in order to take > the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ out from humanity. > > The Holy Lama in Tibet also suffered very much in order to save > humanity from the horrifying consequences of the mentioned fatal > organ. > > Buddha, Jesus, Moses and other Masters passed through much > bitterness in order to liberate humanity from the disastrous > consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ. > > Therefore, the Sacred Commission of Ineffable Beings threw upon > their shoulders a terrible cosmic karma. They will pay such karma in > the future Manvantara. > > Listen to me, Gnostic Brethren: > > You must comprehend that you can end the evil consequences of the > Kundartiguador Organ only with the three factors of the revolution > of the consciousness. > > These three factors are: > > a) Death of the Psychological " I " ; > > b) Birth of the Being within us; > > c) Sacrifice for Humanity. > > The " I " dies based on rigorous creative comprehension. The Being is > born within us with the Maithuna (sexual magic). Sacrifice for > humanity is charity and very well understood love. > > The schools which teach the ejaculation of semen, even when they do > this in a very mystical way, are really black schools, because the > Kundartiguador Organ is developed with such a practice. > > The schools which teach the connection of the Lingam Yoni without > the ejaculation of semen are white schools, because this is how the > Kundalini rises through the medullar canal. > > The schools which teach how to strengthen the psychological `I' are > black schools, because the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador > Organ are strengthened with that procedure. > > The schools which teach the dissolution of the " I " (mystical death) > are white schools, because they destroy the evil consequences of the > Kundartiguador Organ. > > The Kundartiguador Organ is the tail of Satan. It is the sexual fire > descending from the coccyx downwards towards the atomic infernos of > the human being. > > -- " Technique for Dissolving the 'I' " by the Master Samael Aun Weor > join to post > > , Israel > ElShaddai <awakened_adept@> wrote: > > > > This is what is know as the Kundartiguador (tail of satan) > descending and not rising. those that awaken the kundali by methods > impure are bound to become demons eventhough they may think that > they are holy. I do not judge anyone, all I'M saying is that in the > internal world you see those that belong to the black lodge or the > white lodge according to how their kundalini is rising or descending. > > > > > Inverential Peace! > > > > chrism <@> wrote: > > This is a normal, albeit unprepared, activation. Starts > out as an > > advertiziment for the " Church of Satan " . Avitohol1 are you a > member > > of this church? Are you the person in the video? His pain came > from > > his lack of preparation. His fears, mixed with his desires, > produce > > an amplified version of themselves drawing him into his special > > conclusions. > > > > This isnt an abnormal Kundalini event his conjectures and > experience > > with it may be unbalanced due to his incomplete understanding and > > his chosen lifestyle. - > > > > , " avituhol " > > <avituhol@> wrote: > > > > > > ...here is a link to the video , what is this Kundalini ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > web links. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 You can actually verify the tail by seeing those in the superior worlds that do have it. it is kind of amusing because they claim to be saints and holy but if you talk to them and make them realize their actual state some will look at as with scorn and try to insult us yeah that's real saintly and holy. Others will ask Us to show them how to raise the fire upwards and show us no hostility. Inverential Peace! Ben Dover <setiamon wrote: Yeah i just got done reading the secret Fire by Samael Aun Weor. Frankly I don't buy into the nonsense about kundalini Forming a " satanic tail " made up of satanic atoms blah blah I think thats just plain silly,Probably a check a way to prevent people from focusing to much on the sexual energy etc etc.I could be wrong has anyone here experienced anything like this repulsive black serpent tail talked about? The kundabuffer organ as far as i can tell inside of me is the hip bone,it seems heavily earthed as robert bruce puts it.there seems to be two clamps on the joints that holds the energy in place also.its strange i don't understand it completly , " chrism " <> wrote: > > This is a term provided by Samael Aun Weor, some of his follower's > feel he got from South America. It's a " Gnostic " term. To me it is > an attempt by him to explain some of the difficult conditions of the > Kundalini with in a Christian context. The use of Satan and > the " down ward " activation and so forth. > > He describes it as an organ some also describe it as a buffer. It is > mainly for those who wish to study the Kundalini with in the areas > of polarity of action and intention. It also gives somewhat of a > blame target for the kundartiguadors existence and therefore the > innocence of humanity as the victim of a larger scenario. > > I do not feel we are victims. We make choices and we learn from the > consequences of those choices. This includes choices made before the > flesh is born and the body received. We have issues that need > resolution and we strive to do that inside a limited sense equation > where we must make choices based upon our intuitive feelings whether > those come to us as feelings or urges or in social structures of > belief systems. > > I do not advocate a downward activation due to the pain and the > confusion and some of the other more unfortunate experiences one can > have. Doesn't mean there won't be those who wish to go there. > Doesn't mean they do not have every right to do so. Sometimes these > experiences are part of the polishing of the stone and they need to > be had. > > So I do not judge them or insinuate causative action or suggest > goodness or badness. It is their experience and until it infringes > by intention or action or both upon those who do not wish it that > experience will be seen as an option. Besides avitohol1 said his > activation went up not down though NOW that he's been TOLD he will > try to put it down I'm sure. Whose Karma is that Eh? > > We will reap the rewards of our actions upon others. I recall a > claim of making others disappear(smile). Doesn't matter. Yhe > experience and intentions will condition actions and the person will > learn eventually. We all do. We will also learn that being > balanced allows one to see through fear and those who may monger it > by accident or on purpose. > > > Here is what Sam Aun Weor said about this and I give it very limited > credence as he was only partial in his understandings and subject to > the fears and the trappings of fear promulgated by his > interpretation of his belief system and those who would build in a > fearful direction by instilling fear based experiences upon him - > but you see how it comes across to you. > - > > > " Many millions of years have passed since the terrifying night of > the past, in which we began slowly evolving and devolving. Yet, the > human being still does not know who he is, where he comes from, nor > where is he going to. > > A lethargy of many centuries weighs over the ancient mysteries, yet, > the Verb still awaits at the bottom of the Ark for the instant of > its realization. > > Behind the Edenic tradition, there is a terrible cosmic desideratum > and sacred errors which frighten and horrify. > > The Gods also make mistakes. > > Thus, today, as all times, we are confronting our own destiny. We > face the psychological dilemma of: " To be, or not to be? " > > Much has been said about the Sacred Serpent, yet, now we are going > to clearly talk about the Kundartiguador Organ. > > All of the efforts made by Prophets, Avatars and Gods in order to > end the harmful consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ have been > in vain. > > It is necessary to know that the Kundartiguador Organ is the > negative development of the fire. This is the descending serpent, > which precipitates itself from the coccyx downwards, towards the > atomic infernos of the human being. > > The Kundartiguador Organ is the horrifying tail of Satan, which is > shown in the " body of desires " of the Intellectual Animal, who in > the present times is falsely called man. > > What is worst, which hurts the soul the most, is to know that the > ones who gave the Kundartiguador Organ to this humanity were some > sacred individuals. > > Ancient traditions state that during the Lemurian epoch, certain > sacred individuals came to the Earth in a cosmic astro-ship. > > These individuals were forming a very high sacred commission, which > was entrusted with studying the evolving and devolving problems of > the Earth and its humanity. > > The Archangel Sakaki and the Principal Archphysicist and Universal- > Common-Chemist Angel Loisos were the two main individuals from this > holy divine commission. > > This sacred commission of ineffable beings is behind the whole drama > of Eden. They came with bodies of flesh and bones, their ship landed > on Lemuria. During that ancient age, the human instinct was starting > to develop itself into objective reasoning. > > This very high commission could verify to satiety that the Edenic > human being already started to suspect the motive of his creation. > > The Lemurian Root Race had started to guess the true motives of its > own existence, a miserable existence, with just mechanical motives. > > Each human being is a little machine who captures and transforms > cosmic energies. Then he unconsciously adapts these energies into > the interior layers of the earth. Thus, we are human > machines...nothing else. What would this world be without the human > machines? > > Without this seal, without this physiognomy which is supplied by > this humanity, the planet would be without a purpose. Thus, > everything which is without purpose ceases to exist. > > Humanity as a whole is an organ from Nature. This organ collects and > assimilates cosmic energies, which are necessary for the development > of this planetary organism. Disgracefully, to be a machine is not > very pleasant, yet, it is what the so-called human > being is...he is a machine...that is what he is...yes, that, and > nothing else. > > When a rebel rises with his weapons against Nature, when he wants to > stop being a machine, then, the tenebrous powers fight against him > to death. > > The human beings who are capable of fighting the tenebrous forces, > to fight against Nature, against the cosmos, etc., are very rare. > Commonly, these type of rebels capitulate. > > Many are called, yet few are chosen. Only a few individuals attain > the victory against Nature and achieve the right to sit on the > throne of power in order to rule over it. > > The Lemurians already had suspected all of this. They understood > with their instinct that human beings, after having offered their > services as machines to this Nature, were becoming perverse. > > Everywhere, within all of the corners of Lemuria, the whole of this > tragedy was instinctively suspected. Yet, this tragedy wanted to > appear into the Lemurian's objective reasoning. > > Therefore, this Sacred Commission, after having serenely inspected > this problem, resolved to take drastic cosmic procedures in order to > avoid the total dissolution of the > human genre and even mass suicide. > > Great cosmic desiderata are behind Adam and Eve. This Sacred > Commission is what is hidden behind that drama and Edenic scenario. > Thus, everything was fulfilled and the human being received the > damned stigma, the Kundartiguador Organ. > > In the course of time.. maybe many centuries after.. .the Holy > Commission returned, this time commanded by the Archseraphim > Sevohtartra, due to the fact that the Archangel Sakaki had converted > himself into one of the four tetra-sustainers of the Universe. > > Traditions state that they returned precisely three years later. > Nonetheless, these three years are always symbolic. > > The fact then was that after a severe examination of the situation, > the Archphycisian and Chemist Angel Loisos destroyed the > Kundartiguador Organ from within the human race, since the human > race did not need it any more. The human being had abandoned all of > his suspicions as he had become fascinated with the beauties of this > world. > > The Gods saved the human being from a great crisis. They achieved in > making the human being fascinated with this world, in order that he > could live within it as any planetary citizen. Yet, the Gods could > not save him from the evil consequences of the > Kundartiguador Organ. > > Truly, the evil consequences of such an organ were converted into > mistaken habits and customs, that entered the depths of our psyche > and became converted into the subconsciousness. > > Thus, the subconsciousness is the same Ego or the Psychological `I', > that is rooted in the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ. > > The Most Saintly Ashiata Shiemash fought very hard in order to take > the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ out from humanity. > > The Holy Lama in Tibet also suffered very much in order to save > humanity from the horrifying consequences of the mentioned fatal > organ. > > Buddha, Jesus, Moses and other Masters passed through much > bitterness in order to liberate humanity from the disastrous > consequences of the Kundartiguador Organ. > > Therefore, the Sacred Commission of Ineffable Beings threw upon > their shoulders a terrible cosmic karma. They will pay such karma in > the future Manvantara. > > Listen to me, Gnostic Brethren: > > You must comprehend that you can end the evil consequences of the > Kundartiguador Organ only with the three factors of the revolution > of the consciousness. > > These three factors are: > > a) Death of the Psychological " I " ; > > b) Birth of the Being within us; > > c) Sacrifice for Humanity. > > The " I " dies based on rigorous creative comprehension. The Being is > born within us with the Maithuna (sexual magic). Sacrifice for > humanity is charity and very well understood love. > > The schools which teach the ejaculation of semen, even when they do > this in a very mystical way, are really black schools, because the > Kundartiguador Organ is developed with such a practice. > > The schools which teach the connection of the Lingam Yoni without > the ejaculation of semen are white schools, because this is how the > Kundalini rises through the medullar canal. > > The schools which teach how to strengthen the psychological `I' are > black schools, because the evil consequences of the Kundartiguador > Organ are strengthened with that procedure. > > The schools which teach the dissolution of the " I " (mystical death) > are white schools, because they destroy the evil consequences of the > Kundartiguador Organ. > > The Kundartiguador Organ is the tail of Satan. It is the sexual fire > descending from the coccyx downwards towards the atomic infernos of > the human being. > > -- " Technique for Dissolving the 'I' " by the Master Samael Aun Weor > join to post > > , Israel > ElShaddai <awakened_adept@> wrote: > > > > This is what is know as the Kundartiguador (tail of satan) > descending and not rising. those that awaken the kundali by methods > impure are bound to become demons eventhough they may think that > they are holy. I do not judge anyone, all I'M saying is that in the > internal world you see those that belong to the black lodge or the > white lodge according to how their kundalini is rising or descending. > > > > > Inverential Peace! > > > > chrism <@> wrote: > > This is a normal, albeit unprepared, activation. Starts > out as an > > advertiziment for the " Church of Satan " . Avitohol1 are you a > member > > of this church? Are you the person in the video? His pain came > from > > his lack of preparation. His fears, mixed with his desires, > produce > > an amplified version of themselves drawing him into his special > > conclusions. > > > > This isnt an abnormal Kundalini event his conjectures and > experience > > with it may be unbalanced due to his incomplete understanding and > > his chosen lifestyle. - > > > > , " avituhol " > > <avituhol@> wrote: > > > > > > ...here is a link to the video , what is this Kundalini ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > web links. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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