Stotras i came across from the website - Women in organized religions

[Guest guest]

Thanks Prasad for sharing your knowledge of the Hindu tradition. I

respect and appreciate your views, as they reflect a very ancient

tradition that is often misunderstood in the West.

 

On the other hand, I believe it is also important to mention that,

just like any other religion in the world, Hinduism is hardly immune

from gender politics. Just like what happened in the West, in India

the religious bias against women is the result not of piousness, but

rather of the attempt to consolidate a deeply hierarchical social

structure through inequality (not only on the basis of gender, but

also class, race, ethnicity, caste... you name it!).

 

I am of the opinion that there is no day of the month when a woman's

body or soul or spirit is less sacred, and at no time does she need

anybody else's mediation to seek access to the Divine--not even a

brahmin male's, LOL!

 

As to mantras having to be transmitted by the guru: I am sure this

works very well. However, in my experience mantras can be pretty

mind-blowing even when they are picked by the guru inside you. It's

all a matter of trusting that your inner sacred essence is just as

sacred as anybody else's (big gurus included).

 

Namaste,

 

Sel

 

 

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Thank you Prasad,

> Yes feel free to write of your experiences and

> beliefs regarding the stotras and the mantras. As far as the rules

> about the usage goes though we will have to leave that to the

> individual. We do not practice a segragation between the male and

> female here as the aspects of both are part of the divine embrace. -

> blessings my friend - chrism

>

>

, prasad k

> <prasadkrn@> wrote:

> >

> > ||Om shri lalithambikayai Namha||

> > ||Om shri Gurubhyo Namaha||

> >

> > Pranams Chrism,

> > I was surfing the website in the morning and came cross

> two pdf in the site that gave a few stotras. i had a few words to be

> spoken in regards to that.

> >

> > The pdf that gives the stotra for the ganesha(On

> gananamtva....). Ganesha is the lord who lifts of all hurdles in any

> aspect of life. In india there is no work that is started with out

> praying to the god ganesha...he is called the vigna nivaraka ...or

> one who removes the hurdles......this mantra is taken from the vedas

> which saluted the lord...... i can help with the audio and correct

> pronunciation of this stotra which may help beginners to learn it.

> > the file more on mantras by selena gives a stanza as gayatri

> mantra.this is actually the mantra that is used while performing the

> pranayama Note: every mantra has to be chanted only when the mantra

> is given as a upadesha from a guru for complete benifits. But

> gayatri mantra has been regarded to be very pious and sacred of all

> mantras. It is considered so sacred that it is not even chanted

> loudly. In the ancient dayswomen where not authorized to chant or

> even listen to this mantra(except for some women like

> gargayi,maitrai,katyayini who had the upadesha for the mantra).Even

> to this day this mantra is mainly chanted by brahmin men who have

> the upadesha along with the strictly prescribed procedure.one

> request for all is to chant this mantra in utmost piously. women

> should and must not chant this during their times of periods.

> > being brought up with much association of the hindu culture and

> religion it has been a habit to me to talk of what i see and have

> learnt about them in my land. I speak only to present what is

> believed and what is followed by many.I have no intension to impose

> any of the so called rules over any of the reader. No hard feelings

> please.

> > From childhood i have had a great passion for learning mantras and

> stotras and the religious procedures. If i have the permission from

> you all i would be glad to speak of what little i have learnt.

> >

> > thanks and regards

> > prasad.

> >

> >

> >

> > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

||Shri Lalithambikayai Namo namaha||

||Shri Gurubhyo Namo namaha||

 

Hi all...

and Selena....thanks so much for your encouraging

replies.......thanks for giving me the opportunity to share the little i have

learnt.....

chrism and Selena its very true the every very word that both of you have

spoken....i was just trying to speak about what is being believed and followed

in the land and what i see around ..........i always loved to talk on

stotras,mantras and hindhu mythology with all....so it will be a great pleasure

to speak of them with you all.....i have always read lots of mythological

stories that i can tell to you all......

thanks and regards

Prasad

 

selena230 <selena230 wrote: Thanks

Prasad for sharing your knowledge of the Hindu tradition. I

respect and appreciate your views, as they reflect a very ancient

tradition that is often misunderstood in the West.

 

On the other hand, I believe it is also important to mention that,

just like any other religion in the world, Hinduism is hardly immune

from gender politics. Just like what happened in the West, in India

the religious bias against women is the result not of piousness, but

rather of the attempt to consolidate a deeply hierarchical social

structure through inequality (not only on the basis of gender, but

also class, race, ethnicity, caste... you name it!).

 

I am of the opinion that there is no day of the month when a woman's

body or soul or spirit is less sacred, and at no time does she need

anybody else's mediation to seek access to the Divine--not even a

brahmin male's, LOL!

 

As to mantras having to be transmitted by the guru: I am sure this

works very well. However, in my experience mantras can be pretty

mind-blowing even when they are picked by the guru inside you. It's

all a matter of trusting that your inner sacred essence is just as

sacred as anybody else's (big gurus included).

 

Namaste,

 

Sel

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Thank you Prasad,

> Yes feel free to write of your experiences and

> beliefs regarding the stotras and the mantras. As far as the rules

> about the usage goes though we will have to leave that to the

> individual. We do not practice a segragation between the male and

> female here as the aspects of both are part of the divine embrace. -

> blessings my friend - chrism

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , prasad k

> <prasadkrn@> wrote:

> >

> > ||Om shri lalithambikayai Namha||

> > ||Om shri Gurubhyo Namaha||

> >

> > Pranams Chrism,

> > I was surfing the website in the morning and came cross

> two pdf in the site that gave a few stotras. i had a few words to be

> spoken in regards to that.

> >

> > The pdf that gives the stotra for the ganesha(On

> gananamtva....). Ganesha is the lord who lifts of all hurdles in any

> aspect of life. In india there is no work that is started with out

> praying to the god ganesha...he is called the vigna nivaraka ...or

> one who removes the hurdles......this mantra is taken from the vedas

> which saluted the lord...... i can help with the audio and correct

> pronunciation of this stotra which may help beginners to learn it.

> > the file more on mantras by selena gives a stanza as gayatri

> mantra.this is actually the mantra that is used while performing the

> pranayama Note: every mantra has to be chanted only when the mantra

> is given as a upadesha from a guru for complete benifits. But

> gayatri mantra has been regarded to be very pious and sacred of all

> mantras. It is considered so sacred that it is not even chanted

> loudly. In the ancient dayswomen where not authorized to chant or

> even listen to this mantra(except for some women like

> gargayi,maitrai,katyayini who had the upadesha for the mantra).Even

> to this day this mantra is mainly chanted by brahmin men who have

> the upadesha along with the strictly prescribed procedure.one

> request for all is to chant this mantra in utmost piously. women

> should and must not chant this during their times of periods.

> > being brought up with much association of the hindu culture and

> religion it has been a habit to me to talk of what i see and have

> learnt about them in my land. I speak only to present what is

> believed and what is followed by many.I have no intension to impose

> any of the so called rules over any of the reader. No hard feelings

> please.

> > From childhood i have had a great passion for learning mantras and

> stotras and the religious procedures. If i have the permission from

> you all i would be glad to speak of what little i have learnt.

> >

> > thanks and regards

> > prasad.

> >

> >

> >

> > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello Prasad,

 

I am glad my words didn't upset you. I wondered for a while whether I

should write that message, but I feel too strongly about the

patriarchal bias in world religions (all of them!) not to address the

issue.

 

Not to mention that, I my previous incarnation, I was a male

chauvinist pig. This is why I always welcome any opportunity to undo

some of the harm I so eagerly contributed to in my previous life, LOL!

 

Peace,

 

Sel

 

, prasad k

<prasadkrn wrote:

>

> ||Shri Lalithambikayai Namo namaha||

> ||Shri Gurubhyo Namo namaha||

>

> Hi all...

> and Selena....thanks so much for your encouraging

replies.......thanks for giving me the opportunity to share the little

i have learnt.....

> chrism and Selena its very true the every very word that both of you

have spoken....i was just trying to speak about what is being believed

and followed in the land and what i see around ..........i always

loved to talk on stotras,mantras and hindhu mythology with all....so

it will be a great pleasure to speak of them with you all.....i have

always read lots of mythological stories that i can tell to you all......

> thanks and regards

> Prasad

>

> selena230 <selena230 wrote:

Thanks Prasad for sharing your knowledge of the Hindu tradition. I

> respect and appreciate your views, as they reflect a very ancient

> tradition that is often misunderstood in the West.

>

> On the other hand, I believe it is also important to mention that,

> just like any other religion in the world, Hinduism is hardly immune

> from gender politics. Just like what happened in the West, in India

> the religious bias against women is the result not of piousness, but

> rather of the attempt to consolidate a deeply hierarchical social

> structure through inequality (not only on the basis of gender, but

> also class, race, ethnicity, caste... you name it!).

>

> I am of the opinion that there is no day of the month when a woman's

> body or soul or spirit is less sacred, and at no time does she need

> anybody else's mediation to seek access to the Divine--not even a

> brahmin male's, LOL!

>

> As to mantras having to be transmitted by the guru: I am sure this

> works very well. However, in my experience mantras can be pretty

> mind-blowing even when they are picked by the guru inside you. It's

> all a matter of trusting that your inner sacred essence is just as

> sacred as anybody else's (big gurus included).

>

> Namaste,

>

> Sel

>

> , " chrism "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > Thank you Prasad,

> > Yes feel free to write of your experiences and

> > beliefs regarding the stotras and the mantras. As far as the rules

> > about the usage goes though we will have to leave that to the

> > individual. We do not practice a segragation between the male and

> > female here as the aspects of both are part of the divine embrace. -

> > blessings my friend - chrism

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , prasad k

> > <prasadkrn@> wrote:

> > >

> > > ||Om shri lalithambikayai Namha||

> > > ||Om shri Gurubhyo Namaha||

> > >

> > > Pranams Chrism,

> > > I was surfing the website in the morning and came cross

> > two pdf in the site that gave a few stotras. i had a few words to be

> > spoken in regards to that.

> > >

> > > The pdf that gives the stotra for the ganesha(On

> > gananamtva....). Ganesha is the lord who lifts of all hurdles in any

> > aspect of life. In india there is no work that is started with out

> > praying to the god ganesha...he is called the vigna nivaraka ...or

> > one who removes the hurdles......this mantra is taken from the vedas

> > which saluted the lord...... i can help with the audio and correct

> > pronunciation of this stotra which may help beginners to learn it.

> > > the file more on mantras by selena gives a stanza as gayatri

> > mantra.this is actually the mantra that is used while performing the

> > pranayama Note: every mantra has to be chanted only when the mantra

> > is given as a upadesha from a guru for complete benifits. But

> > gayatri mantra has been regarded to be very pious and sacred of all

> > mantras. It is considered so sacred that it is not even chanted

> > loudly. In the ancient dayswomen where not authorized to chant or

> > even listen to this mantra(except for some women like

> > gargayi,maitrai,katyayini who had the upadesha for the mantra).Even

> > to this day this mantra is mainly chanted by brahmin men who have

> > the upadesha along with the strictly prescribed procedure.one

> > request for all is to chant this mantra in utmost piously. women

> > should and must not chant this during their times of periods.

> > > being brought up with much association of the hindu culture and

> > religion it has been a habit to me to talk of what i see and have

> > learnt about them in my land. I speak only to present what is

> > believed and what is followed by many.I have no intension to impose

> > any of the so called rules over any of the reader. No hard feelings

> > please.

> > > From childhood i have had a great passion for learning mantras and

> > stotras and the religious procedures. If i have the permission from

> > you all i would be glad to speak of what little i have learnt.

> > >

> > > thanks and regards

> > > prasad.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi selena.....

there is absolutely no question of getting upset........ what is

the need to fight the truth??.............also not to forget to mention being a

follower of the advaitha if i would have to believe these bias issues then it

would be meaningless....i was afraid for that matter to have spoken out those

being a newbie in the group and it might upset others..............

At this point i would remember the fact of ancient vedic times where there were

almost no such bias in the society.........women were treated with equality with

men....or may be even more than them!!!!!!.....lets see what proved this:

 

First and foremost.......the concept of Shakthi........its feminine......so

the greatest force in the creation is widely accepted without any doubt as

feminine.

 

In hindhu religion all the gods have their consorts who have equal powers and

roles(or play a more important role itself!!!!). example parvathi...goddess of

shakti, lakshmi....for wealth....saraswathi for

knowledge.....gayathi......goddess of vedas.

Many of the rituals cannot be complete without the presence of the wife with

the husband.

In vedic times women also has the oppur to learn and practice vedas....ex

kathyayini,gargeyi,maitreyi etc.....ex a widely accepted procedure for sri

vidhya is the rules given by lopamudra.......

all these facts are as noticed by me.....and lots more......but it is the

saddest thing that things turned just the opposite as time passed.....

selena230 <selena230 wrote: Hello

Prasad,

 

I am glad my words didn't upset you. I wondered for a while whether I

should write that message, but I feel too strongly about the

patriarchal bias in world religions (all of them!) not to address the

issue.

 

Not to mention that, I my previous incarnation, I was a male

chauvinist pig. This is why I always welcome any opportunity to undo

some of the harm I so eagerly contributed to in my previous life, LOL!

 

Peace,

 

Sel

 

, prasad k

<prasadkrn wrote:

>

> ||Shri Lalithambikayai Namo namaha||

> ||Shri Gurubhyo Namo namaha||

>

> Hi all...

> and Selena....thanks so much for your encouraging

replies.......thanks for giving me the opportunity to share the little

i have learnt.....

> chrism and Selena its very true the every very word that both of you

have spoken....i was just trying to speak about what is being believed

and followed in the land and what i see around ..........i always

loved to talk on stotras,mantras and hindhu mythology with all....so

it will be a great pleasure to speak of them with you all.....i have

always read lots of mythological stories that i can tell to you all......

> thanks and regards

> Prasad

>

> selena230 <selena230 wrote:

Thanks Prasad for sharing your knowledge of the Hindu tradition. I

> respect and appreciate your views, as they reflect a very ancient

> tradition that is often misunderstood in the West.

>

> On the other hand, I believe it is also important to mention that,

> just like any other religion in the world, Hinduism is hardly immune

> from gender politics. Just like what happened in the West, in India

> the religious bias against women is the result not of piousness, but

> rather of the attempt to consolidate a deeply hierarchical social

> structure through inequality (not only on the basis of gender, but

> also class, race, ethnicity, caste... you name it!).

>

> I am of the opinion that there is no day of the month when a woman's

> body or soul or spirit is less sacred, and at no time does she need

> anybody else's mediation to seek access to the Divine--not even a

> brahmin male's, LOL!

>

> As to mantras having to be transmitted by the guru: I am sure this

> works very well. However, in my experience mantras can be pretty

> mind-blowing even when they are picked by the guru inside you. It's

> all a matter of trusting that your inner sacred essence is just as

> sacred as anybody else's (big gurus included).

>

> Namaste,

>

> Sel

>

> , " chrism "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > Thank you Prasad,

> > Yes feel free to write of your experiences and

> > beliefs regarding the stotras and the mantras. As far as the rules

> > about the usage goes though we will have to leave that to the

> > individual. We do not practice a segragation between the male and

> > female here as the aspects of both are part of the divine embrace. -

> > blessings my friend - chrism

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , prasad k

> > <prasadkrn@> wrote:

> > >

> > > ||Om shri lalithambikayai Namha||

> > > ||Om shri Gurubhyo Namaha||

> > >

> > > Pranams Chrism,

> > > I was surfing the website in the morning and came cross

> > two pdf in the site that gave a few stotras. i had a few words to be

> > spoken in regards to that.

> > >

> > > The pdf that gives the stotra for the ganesha(On

> > gananamtva....). Ganesha is the lord who lifts of all hurdles in any

> > aspect of life. In india there is no work that is started with out

> > praying to the god ganesha...he is called the vigna nivaraka ...or

> > one who removes the hurdles......this mantra is taken from the vedas

> > which saluted the lord...... i can help with the audio and correct

> > pronunciation of this stotra which may help beginners to learn it.

> > > the file more on mantras by selena gives a stanza as gayatri

> > mantra.this is actually the mantra that is used while performing the

> > pranayama Note: every mantra has to be chanted only when the mantra

> > is given as a upadesha from a guru for complete benifits. But

> > gayatri mantra has been regarded to be very pious and sacred of all

> > mantras. It is considered so sacred that it is not even chanted

> > loudly. In the ancient dayswomen where not authorized to chant or

> > even listen to this mantra(except for some women like

> > gargayi,maitrai,katyayini who had the upadesha for the mantra).Even

> > to this day this mantra is mainly chanted by brahmin men who have

> > the upadesha along with the strictly prescribed procedure.one

> > request for all is to chant this mantra in utmost piously. women

> > should and must not chant this during their times of periods.

> > > being brought up with much association of the hindu culture and

> > religion it has been a habit to me to talk of what i see and have

> > learnt about them in my land. I speak only to present what is

> > believed and what is followed by many.I have no intension to impose

> > any of the so called rules over any of the reader. No hard feelings

> > please.

> > > From childhood i have had a great passion for learning mantras and

> > stotras and the religious procedures. If i have the permission from

> > you all i would be glad to speak of what little i have learnt.

> > >

> > > thanks and regards

> > > prasad.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

> > >

> > >