Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Forgiveness is given by releasing any emotional attachment to a hurt or harm from the body. The more you forgive someone the more they heal themselves also. If someone has raped you and you forgive them it does not mean you have to invite them in to stay with you, but if that rapist was in trouble would you wish bad on to them? Or would you wish them love and joy from your heart knowing that they are your family? You should never put yourself in harm or danger. It just means that you allow yourself to feel love for them. I have found many people return to me when i forgive them and usually something wonderful happens, especially family members. But each case is different and obviously forgiving a husband that beats you doesnt mean you have to be his wife again. Hope this clears that up a little Many blessings Elektra x x x _________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit For Good http://uk.promotions./forgood/environment.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Imho, forgiveness is as much (or more) for YOU than for the person you forgive. It is healing. Just because you forgive what someone has done does not mean that you need to have a relationship with that person. An example would be my ex husband. It took me literally years, but I forgave him and no longer get angry when I think back over the things that were done to me. I wish him well and even pray for him. That does not mean that I will let him back into my life - or that I should. The act of forgiveness is freeing, feeling as though weight has been taken away. I have forgiven everyone who has wronged me and I pray for their higher good. This leaves my heart feeling very light instead of like a stone in my chest. Good luck with your forgiveness. Since the Kundalini amplifies emotions, it would be a great idea to concentrate there imho. Sarita , " prasadkrn " <prasadkrn83 wrote: > > ||Om shri Lalithambikayai namo namaha|| > ||Om shri Gurubhyo namo namaha|| > > Hi all... > while reading the safeties document i read of the forgiveness > point. i have one question in my mind on this. If we are to forgive > someone for what they have done then would that mean that we need to > accept them back into our life......if we have truly forgiven the > mistake/harm done by them then that means that we no longer should > hate them. would it mean that if we have forgiven a person truly then > if the person comes across our life again we need to accept them as if > nothing has happened. In case we keep them away that means we still > haven't forgiven them.If we do accept them,would it not be a mistake > that we are yet again knowingly giving them another chance to > hurt/trouble us. > > kindly throw some light on this....im in a big fix:((!!!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 A person forgives the actions of another. Yet as we forgive we do not need to be a continued recipient of other actions demonstrated by that individual. Unless we do need that. We are all humans and we are all family. Yet ignorance does not allow for a complete self understanding and the actions of a person against another or against self may be repeated much as a child will repeat actions until guided by parents to not continue them. So as we live inside of our integrity we can gently guide an individual by our actions. Sometimes we must be long suffering as the circumstances are not aligned for a departure from a job for example, or a life with out a mate. Some cultures will not allow a woman, for example, to not be connected in some way to a male either as father or brother or husband. The rules of the culture may not allow for one to easily leave or have the confidence to leave an abusive situation. So we suffer.....and learn....and suffer.....and learn....until we can have that freedom. Forgiveness is necessary for the Kundalini. It is helpful in many other aspects of life as well but it is necessary for the Kundalini as given here. This world is a ginat school of many different subjects being taught and absorbed my many different people in different states of development. That you are here exploring Kundalini should give you pause and reflection of what you may have learned in other classes and lives to lead you to this point and place in time and space where you have this opportunity. - blessings - chr9ism , " prasadkrn " <prasadkrn83 wrote: > > ||Om shri Lalithambikayai namo namaha|| > ||Om shri Gurubhyo namo namaha|| > > Hi all... > while reading the safeties document i read of the forgiveness > point. i have one question in my mind on this. If we are to forgive > someone for what they have done then would that mean that we need to > accept them back into our life......if we have truly forgiven the > mistake/harm done by them then that means that we no longer should > hate them. would it mean that if we have forgiven a person truly then > if the person comes across our life again we need to accept them as if > nothing has happened. In case we keep them away that means we still > haven't forgiven them.If we do accept them,would it not be a mistake > that we are yet again knowingly giving them another chance to > hurt/trouble us. > > kindly throw some light on this....im in a big fix:((!!!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Great point, Sarita, I totally agree. Forgiveness is in a class of its own. It is not bound by further relationships, or anything besides light and intention. A person can forgive, and choose to remain at a distance. A child of an abusive parent, for example, may choose forgiveness and still hide. There are no strings attached to forgiveness. Although I forgave my father, I choose not to see him. I guess that for me, no matter how much I forgive..and cleanse..and pray, etc- my heart still holds pain. I chose not to see him, because when I would meet with him, I would discover a not so positive burst of old emotion, and find myself avoiding conversation, and sending cold vibes (unintentionally). I found that I was feeling as though I was right back there again. That was no good for me, because I want to let go of hurt and negativity. It was also better for him, because he didn't have to notice my reaction, and doubt my forgiveness. It was better to leave well enough alone. He knows I forgave him. It is better for us both, if I remain at a distance than to allow him to possibly think I still harbor ill feelings, and doubt my forgiveness. It seems to work out much better this way. I am grown now, and can watch out for myself now. If I was still a child and saying this, my reason for choosing distance would be for my own safety and well being. As much as that would sound to some people as the complete opposite of forgiveness, the decision would have been made with the understanding that the person is sick, and cannot always make the right decisions. We are all one, and so we are supposed to love and forgive one another, but we don't need to throw ourselves into the path of the lion. There are no strings attached to forgiveness. My take on this. Love and blessings to you, Tara Sarita <sarita1969 wrote: Imho, forgiveness is as much (or more) for YOU than for the person you forgive. It is healing. Just because you forgive what someone has done does not mean that you need to have a relationship with that person. An example would be my ex husband. It took me literally years, but I forgave him and no longer get angry when I think back over the things that were done to me. I wish him well and even pray for him. That does not mean that I will let him back into my life - or that I should. The act of forgiveness is freeing, feeling as though weight has been taken away. I have forgiven everyone who has wronged me and I pray for their higher good. This leaves my heart feeling very light instead of like a stone in my chest. Good luck with your forgiveness. Since the Kundalini amplifies emotions, it would be a great idea to concentrate there imho. Sarita , " prasadkrn " <prasadkrn83 wrote: > > ||Om shri Lalithambikayai namo namaha|| > ||Om shri Gurubhyo namo namaha|| > > Hi all... > while reading the safeties document i read of the forgiveness > point. i have one question in my mind on this. If we are to forgive > someone for what they have done then would that mean that we need to > accept them back into our life......if we have truly forgiven the > mistake/harm done by them then that means that we no longer should > hate them. would it mean that if we have forgiven a person truly then > if the person comes across our life again we need to accept them as if > nothing has happened. In case we keep them away that means we still > haven't forgiven them.If we do accept them,would it not be a mistake > that we are yet again knowingly giving them another chance to > hurt/trouble us. > > kindly throw some light on this....im in a big fix:((!!!! > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 ||Om shri Lalithambikayai namo namaha|| ||Om shri Gurubhyo namo namaha|| Hi all.... Thank you for all for giving such wonderful explanations for forgiveness......i feel very much satisfied and peace now...... there where times i still remember i used to hate the people who casued pain for me......this in turn gave me so much pain....i really felt im carrying a huge boulder over my heart........ Blessed i was when my guru came in to my life and lifted all the pain from my heart....i feel now im a free bird flying ....released from the captivity of hate and memories of pain.......he guided me telling y do i need to remember all the pains i underwent when there are much better happy memories that i can remember......the people who hurt me gave me pain once.....but i have been giving the pain myself everytime until i remember the pain.....he said it is a great act of courage and goodness to forgive them......he made me take a step further by making me thank them for what they did.....truly i am every bit of me coz of what hapend to me in past and i must thank them for wat the people did in my life........ we belive that everything happns is for good so i must thank everyone..if they did good or bad to me for i am wat i am for wat everyone influenced me by that way.............. I had never noticed i was so much filled with hate until i forgave them and thanked them...........but i was of the doubt that should i accept them back.........now after reading all the replies......i have got my answer....some i can accept them back and forgive them.....and some..i prefer not to as i may get back the hate inside me......i shall pray for the well being of every individual soul and forget the things that happnd......let the goddess bless one and all......... And the members of this group ..thanks so much and may the goddess shower her grace on one and all......... Thanks and regards Prasad. , tara jacoby <tjmassage7777 wrote: > > Great point, Sarita, > I totally agree. > Forgiveness is in a class of its own. > It is not bound by further relationships, or anything besides light and intention. > A person can forgive, and choose to remain at a distance. > A child of an abusive parent, for example, may choose forgiveness > and still hide. There are no strings attached to forgiveness. > Although I forgave my father, I choose not to see him. > I guess that for me, no matter how much I forgive..and cleanse..and pray, etc- > my heart still holds pain. I chose not to see him, because when I would > meet with him, I would discover a not so positive burst of old emotion, and find myself avoiding conversation, and sending cold vibes (unintentionally). > I found that I was feeling as though I was right back there again. > That was no good for me, because I want to let go of hurt and negativity. > It was also better for him, because he didn't have to notice my reaction, and > doubt my forgiveness. It was better to leave well enough alone. > He knows I forgave him. It is better for us both, if I remain at a distance than to allow him to possibly think I still harbor ill feelings, and doubt my forgiveness. > It seems to work out much better this way. > I am grown now, and can watch out for myself now. > If I was still a child and saying this, my reason for choosing distance > would be for my own safety and well being. > As much as that would sound to some people as the complete opposite of forgiveness, the decision would have been made with the understanding that > the person is sick, and cannot always make the right decisions. > We are all one, and so we are supposed to love and forgive one another, but we > don't need to throw ourselves into the path of the lion. > There are no strings attached to forgiveness. > My take on this. > Love and blessings to you, > Tara > > > > Sarita <sarita1969 wrote: Imho, forgiveness is as much (or more) for YOU than for the person > you forgive. It is healing. Just because you forgive what someone > has done does not mean that you need to have a relationship with that > person. > > An example would be my ex husband. It took me literally years, but I > forgave him and no longer get angry when I think back over the things > that were done to me. I wish him well and even pray for him. That > does not mean that I will let him back into my life - or that I > should. > > The act of forgiveness is freeing, feeling as though weight has been > taken away. I have forgiven everyone who has wronged me and I pray > for their higher good. This leaves my heart feeling very light > instead of like a stone in my chest. > > Good luck with your forgiveness. Since the Kundalini amplifies > emotions, it would be a great idea to concentrate there imho. > > Sarita > , " prasadkrn " > <prasadkrn83@> wrote: > > > > ||Om shri Lalithambikayai namo namaha|| > > ||Om shri Gurubhyo namo namaha|| > > > > Hi all... > > while reading the safeties document i read of the forgiveness > > point. i have one question in my mind on this. If we are to forgive > > someone for what they have done then would that mean that we need to > > accept them back into our life......if we have truly forgiven the > > mistake/harm done by them then that means that we no longer should > > hate them. would it mean that if we have forgiven a person truly > then > > if the person comes across our life again we need to accept them as > if > > nothing has happened. In case we keep them away that means we still > > haven't forgiven them.If we do accept them,would it not be a mistake > > that we are yet again knowingly giving them another chance to > > hurt/trouble us. > > > > kindly throw some light on this....im in a big fix:((!!!! > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I'm so happy you got your answers, Prasad. Many blessings to you on your journey. Your posts are very enlightening. I had heard once, about thanking (in one's own heart and mind) those who have caused hurt- but I don't actually recall doing it. I'm very thankful to you, for sharing that. I will try that now as well. Peace an love to you, Tara prasadkrn <prasadkrn83 wrote: ||Om shri Lalithambikayai namo namaha|| ||Om shri Gurubhyo namo namaha|| Hi all.... Thank you for all for giving such wonderful explanations for forgiveness......i feel very much satisfied and peace now...... there where times i still remember i used to hate the people who casued pain for me......this in turn gave me so much pain....i really felt im carrying a huge boulder over my heart........ Blessed i was when my guru came in to my life and lifted all the pain from my heart....i feel now im a free bird flying ....released from the captivity of hate and memories of pain.......he guided me telling y do i need to remember all the pains i underwent when there are much better happy memories that i can remember......the people who hurt me gave me pain once.....but i have been giving the pain myself everytime until i remember the pain.....he said it is a great act of courage and goodness to forgive them......he made me take a step further by making me thank them for what they did.....truly i am every bit of me coz of what hapend to me in past and i must thank them for wat the people did in my life........ we belive that everything happns is for good so i must thank everyone..if they did good or bad to me for i am wat i am for wat everyone influenced me by that way.............. I had never noticed i was so much filled with hate until i forgave them and thanked them...........but i was of the doubt that should i accept them back.........now after reading all the replies......i have got my answer....some i can accept them back and forgive them.....and some..i prefer not to as i may get back the hate inside me......i shall pray for the well being of every individual soul and forget the things that happnd......let the goddess bless one and all......... And the members of this group ..thanks so much and may the goddess shower her grace on one and all......... Thanks and regards Prasad. , tara jacoby <tjmassage7777 wrote: > > Great point, Sarita, > I totally agree. > Forgiveness is in a class of its own. > It is not bound by further relationships, or anything besides light and intention. > A person can forgive, and choose to remain at a distance. > A child of an abusive parent, for example, may choose forgiveness > and still hide. There are no strings attached to forgiveness. > Although I forgave my father, I choose not to see him. > I guess that for me, no matter how much I forgive..and cleanse..and pray, etc- > my heart still holds pain. I chose not to see him, because when I would > meet with him, I would discover a not so positive burst of old emotion, and find myself avoiding conversation, and sending cold vibes (unintentionally). > I found that I was feeling as though I was right back there again. > That was no good for me, because I want to let go of hurt and negativity. > It was also better for him, because he didn't have to notice my reaction, and > doubt my forgiveness. It was better to leave well enough alone. > He knows I forgave him. It is better for us both, if I remain at a distance than to allow him to possibly think I still harbor ill feelings, and doubt my forgiveness. > It seems to work out much better this way. > I am grown now, and can watch out for myself now. > If I was still a child and saying this, my reason for choosing distance > would be for my own safety and well being. > As much as that would sound to some people as the complete opposite of forgiveness, the decision would have been made with the understanding that > the person is sick, and cannot always make the right decisions. > We are all one, and so we are supposed to love and forgive one another, but we > don't need to throw ourselves into the path of the lion. > There are no strings attached to forgiveness. > My take on this. > Love and blessings to you, > Tara > > > > Sarita <sarita1969 wrote: Imho, forgiveness is as much (or more) for YOU than for the person > you forgive. It is healing. Just because you forgive what someone > has done does not mean that you need to have a relationship with that > person. > > An example would be my ex husband. It took me literally years, but I > forgave him and no longer get angry when I think back over the things > that were done to me. I wish him well and even pray for him. That > does not mean that I will let him back into my life - or that I > should. > > The act of forgiveness is freeing, feeling as though weight has been > taken away. I have forgiven everyone who has wronged me and I pray > for their higher good. This leaves my heart feeling very light > instead of like a stone in my chest. > > Good luck with your forgiveness. Since the Kundalini amplifies > emotions, it would be a great idea to concentrate there imho. > > Sarita > , " prasadkrn " > <prasadkrn83@> wrote: > > > > ||Om shri Lalithambikayai namo namaha|| > > ||Om shri Gurubhyo namo namaha|| > > > > Hi all... > > while reading the safeties document i read of the forgiveness > > point. i have one question in my mind on this. If we are to forgive > > someone for what they have done then would that mean that we need to > > accept them back into our life......if we have truly forgiven the > > mistake/harm done by them then that means that we no longer should > > hate them. would it mean that if we have forgiven a person truly > then > > if the person comes across our life again we need to accept them as > if > > nothing has happened. In case we keep them away that means we still > > haven't forgiven them.If we do accept them,would it not be a mistake > > that we are yet again knowingly giving them another chance to > > hurt/trouble us. > > > > kindly throw some light on this....im in a big fix:((!!!! > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I feel that every experience is an opportunity for growth. I used to question why I was involved with a verbally abusive man and then ended up in a love triangle. There seemed to be no purpose to it at the time besides suffering. Once I was able to look at it more objectively I saw the lessons, found out the reasons, part of which started in another lifetime. There are no random occurrences and everything has something of value in it, imho. Sarita , tara jacoby <tjmassage7777 wrote: > > I'm so happy you got your answers, Prasad. > Many blessings to you on your journey. > Your posts are very enlightening. I had heard once, about thanking (in one's own heart and mind) those who have caused hurt- but I don't actually recall doing it. > I'm very thankful to you, for sharing that. I will try that now as well. > Peace an love to you, > Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Good Job on this Sarita. That is exactly how I see things. You have come a long way! Love, Leslie , " Sarita " <sarita1969 wrote: > > I feel that every experience is an opportunity for growth. I used to > question why I was involved with a verbally abusive man and then > ended up in a love triangle. There seemed to be no purpose to it at > the time besides suffering. Once I was able to look at it more > objectively I saw the lessons, found out the reasons, part of which > started in another lifetime. > > There are no random occurrences and everything has something of value > in it, imho. > > Sarita > > , tara jacoby > <tjmassage7777@> wrote: > > > > I'm so happy you got your answers, Prasad. > > Many blessings to you on your journey. > > Your posts are very enlightening. I had heard once, about thanking > (in one's own heart and mind) those who have caused hurt- but I don't > actually recall doing it. > > I'm very thankful to you, for sharing that. I will try that now as > well. > > Peace an love to you, > > Tara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Thanks Leslie! I don't even recognize the person I was back then. It is like I am hearing about someone else's life. I guess in a way that Sarita is dead and a new happier one has taken her place. Sarita Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " i_ama_lighthouse " <i_ama_lighthouse wrote: > > Good Job on this Sarita. That is exactly how I see things. You have > come a long way! > > Love, > Leslie > > , " Sarita " > <sarita1969@> wrote: > > > > I feel that every experience is an opportunity for growth. I used > to > > question why I was involved with a verbally abusive man and then > > ended up in a love triangle. There seemed to be no purpose to it > at > > the time besides suffering. Once I was able to look at it more > > objectively I saw the lessons, found out the reasons, part of which > > started in another lifetime. > > > > There are no random occurrences and everything has something of > value > > in it, imho. > > > > Sarita > > > > , tara jacoby > > <tjmassage7777@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm so happy you got your answers, Prasad. > > > Many blessings to you on your journey. > > > Your posts are very enlightening. I had heard once, about > thanking > > (in one's own heart and mind) those who have caused hurt- but I > don't > > actually recall doing it. > > > I'm very thankful to you, for sharing that. I will try that now > as > > well. > > > Peace an love to you, > > > Tara > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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