Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 I agree. Moms and Dads love their kids so much that they want to keep all pain from ever happening to their children. Especially the sight of their childs blood. Sometimes going so far as to over protect and not allow the natural immunological functions to be given growth and expansion and instead fostering a fear based dependence upon commercialized medicine. There was a time when the medical industries did work hard to help people through the use of vaccines. That time has passed long ago when it was uncovered that these pharmaceutical companies where inserting dangerous and hurtful virus' along with the flu virus antigen that was advertised. For those not familiar with an antigen here is a brief description: " An antigen or immunogen is a molecule that stimulates an immune response. The word originated from the notion that they can stimulate antibody generation. We now know that the immune system does not only consist of antibodies. " What people have been programmed away from is a trust in their own body's abilities to fight off illness. People will run from pain first. So anything that is advertised to even " possibly " protect from pain they will flock to that item. Here just take this pill. Don't stay in shape don't stop eating junk. Don't try and keep a balance in your emotions . Just take this pill or this shot or this treatment. Now pay us and come back next year unless you want to POSSIBLY DIE!!!! This is always the mechanism. " You might die if you don't! " When we can begin to understand that pain is a component of life and that we as an expression of life may need to feel it at times, is the day we begin to reclaim our bodies and our health from those who would promote a fear based perspective on any and all injury or illness. Not all medical treatments fall into this category though. If I break an arm (which I have done twice-Ouch!) I would prefer to go to an emergency room. Have it set and imaged and immobilized. Life doesn't always work that way and so I will ask Shakti to move it and set it and begin to heal it and I will step out of her way! This is a shocking thought to many so ensconced in the medical programming given from birth to death. But it is what each and every one of us has, this potential, in our tailbones to become. When we take the profit motive out of medicine then we will have a much more honest relationship with our own internal healing modalities. - my take - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 So, this is not advisable then? My aunt just reminded me to get one. I haven't gone yet though. Anne , " chrism " <> wrote: > > I agree. Moms and Dads love their kids so much that they want to > keep all pain from ever happening to their children. Especially the > sight of their childs blood. Sometimes going so far as to over > protect and not allow the natural immunological functions to be > given growth and expansion and instead fostering a fear based > dependence upon commercialized medicine. > > There was a time when the medical industries did work hard to help > people through the use of vaccines. That time has passed long ago > when it was uncovered that these pharmaceutical companies where > inserting dangerous and hurtful virus' along with the flu virus > antigen that was advertised. For those not familiar with an antigen > here is a brief description: > > " An antigen or immunogen is a molecule that stimulates an immune > response. The word originated from the notion that they can > stimulate antibody generation. We now know that the immune system > does not only consist of antibodies. " > > What people have been programmed away from is a trust in their own > body's abilities to fight off illness. People will run from pain > first. So anything that is advertised to even " possibly " protect > from pain they will flock to that item. Here just take this pill. > Don't stay in shape don't stop eating junk. Don't try and keep a > balance in your emotions . Just take this pill or this shot or this > treatment. Now pay us and come back next year unless you want to > POSSIBLY DIE!!!! This is always the mechanism. " You might die if you > don't! " > > When we can begin to understand that pain is a component of life and > that we as an expression of life may need to feel it at times, is > the day we begin to reclaim our bodies and our health from those who > would promote a fear based perspective on any and all injury or > illness. > > Not all medical treatments fall into this category though. If I > break an arm (which I have done twice-Ouch!) I would prefer to go to > an emergency room. Have it set and imaged and immobilized. Life > doesn't always work that way and so I will ask Shakti to move it and > set it and begin to heal it and I will step out of her way! This is > a shocking thought to many so ensconced in the medical programming > given from birth to death. But it is what each and every one of us > has, this potential, in our tailbones to become. > > When we take the profit motive out of medicine then we will have a > much more honest relationship with our own internal healing > modalities. - my take - chrism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 I would not, but that is always your choice. Melissa , " Anne " <annicole72 wrote: > > So, this is not advisable then? My aunt just reminded me to get one. I > haven't gone yet though. > > Anne > > , " chrism " > <@> wrote: > > > > I agree. Moms and Dads love their kids so much that they want to > > keep all pain from ever happening to their children. Especially the > > sight of their childs blood. Sometimes going so far as to over > > protect and not allow the natural immunological functions to be > > given growth and expansion and instead fostering a fear based > > dependence upon commercialized medicine. > > > > There was a time when the medical industries did work hard to help > > people through the use of vaccines. That time has passed long ago > > when it was uncovered that these pharmaceutical companies where > > inserting dangerous and hurtful virus' along with the flu virus > > antigen that was advertised. For those not familiar with an antigen > > here is a brief description: > > > > " An antigen or immunogen is a molecule that stimulates an immune > > response. The word originated from the notion that they can > > stimulate antibody generation. We now know that the immune system > > does not only consist of antibodies. " > > > > What people have been programmed away from is a trust in their own > > body's abilities to fight off illness. People will run from pain > > first. So anything that is advertised to even " possibly " protect > > from pain they will flock to that item. Here just take this pill. > > Don't stay in shape don't stop eating junk. Don't try and keep a > > balance in your emotions . Just take this pill or this shot or this > > treatment. Now pay us and come back next year unless you want to > > POSSIBLY DIE!!!! This is always the mechanism. " You might die if you > > don't! " > > > > When we can begin to understand that pain is a component of life and > > that we as an expression of life may need to feel it at times, is > > the day we begin to reclaim our bodies and our health from those who > > would promote a fear based perspective on any and all injury or > > illness. > > > > Not all medical treatments fall into this category though. If I > > break an arm (which I have done twice-Ouch!) I would prefer to go to > > an emergency room. Have it set and imaged and immobilized. Life > > doesn't always work that way and so I will ask Shakti to move it and > > set it and begin to heal it and I will step out of her way! This is > > a shocking thought to many so ensconced in the medical programming > > given from birth to death. But it is what each and every one of us > > has, this potential, in our tailbones to become. > > > > When we take the profit motive out of medicine then we will have a > > much more honest relationship with our own internal healing > > modalities. - my take - chrism > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 I never get flu shots and I never get the flu - go figure! - blessings - c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Me neither... love & light ~Jen~ , " chrism " <> wrote: > > I never get flu shots and I never get the flu - go figure! - > blessings - c > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 I have never had a flu shot either and I hardly ever get a virus or flu. The few times I have gotton sick, it never last but a couple of days. My mom used to be the same way me until my sister-in-law talked her into getting a flu shot one year, now she gets everything that is going around it seems. Linda , " chrism " <> wrote: > > I never get flu shots and I never get the flu - go figure! - > blessings - c > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 I have noticed a marked decline of illness since the K. Whenever it seems I am coming down with something it is gone within a day, sometims a few hours! I used to get sick all the time. Sarita , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > I have never had a flu shot either and I hardly ever get a virus or > flu. The few times I have gotton sick, it never last but a couple of > days. My mom used to be the same way me until my sister-in-law talked > her into getting a flu shot one year, now she gets everything that is > going around it seems. > > Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 That sounds like me Linda! Smiles and cheers on that! I have to say though that most everyone I ever hear about having a flu shot gets sick. My husband does and he has to have the flu shot. It is a requirement to be in the military, but it never fails, he gets sick whether really sick or slightly. My sister gets it too and she gets sick. My philosophy is that if it is going to make me sick then why take it. Most people say that even if you get sick after having the flu shot, it isn't as bad as it would be if you don't have it at all. The last time I got really sick as far as I can remember was about 20 years ago. Anyway, I don't get it! Love, Katherine Linda <crazycats711 Monday, September 17, 2007 9:48:56 PM Re: Flu shots - Melissa L Cloer MD I have never had a flu shot either and I hardly ever get a virus or flu. The few times I have gotton sick, it never last but a couple of days. My mom used to be the same way me until my sister-in-law talked her into getting a flu shot one year, now she gets everything that is going around it seems. Linda Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " chrism " <@ ...> wrote: > > I never get flu shots and I never get the flu - go figure! - > blessings - c > ______________________________\ ____ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. http://travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 I have the worse sinusitis. Any suggestions? I'm trying not to take anymore anti histamines. But gosh, I keep sniffling none-stop. I think if I was in a grocery store, you would easily find me by just following the sound of my sniffles. LOL Anne , " Melissa " <mm7810 wrote: > > I would not, but that is always your choice. > > Melissa > > , " Anne " > <annicole72@> wrote: > > > > So, this is not advisable then? My aunt just reminded me to get > one. I > > haven't gone yet though. > > > > Anne > > > > , " chrism " > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > I agree. Moms and Dads love their kids so much that they want > to > > > keep all pain from ever happening to their children. Especially > the > > > sight of their childs blood. Sometimes going so far as to over > > > protect and not allow the natural immunological functions to be > > > given growth and expansion and instead fostering a fear based > > > dependence upon commercialized medicine. > > > > > > There was a time when the medical industries did work hard to > help > > > people through the use of vaccines. That time has passed long > ago > > > when it was uncovered that these pharmaceutical companies where > > > inserting dangerous and hurtful virus' along with the flu virus > > > antigen that was advertised. For those not familiar with an > antigen > > > here is a brief description: > > > > > > " An antigen or immunogen is a molecule that stimulates an immune > > > response. The word originated from the notion that they can > > > stimulate antibody generation. We now know that the immune > system > > > does not only consist of antibodies. " > > > > > > What people have been programmed away from is a trust in their > own > > > body's abilities to fight off illness. People will run from pain > > > first. So anything that is advertised to even " possibly " protect > > > from pain they will flock to that item. Here just take this > pill. > > > Don't stay in shape don't stop eating junk. Don't try and keep a > > > balance in your emotions . Just take this pill or this shot or > this > > > treatment. Now pay us and come back next year unless you want to > > > POSSIBLY DIE!!!! This is always the mechanism. " You might die if > you > > > don't! " > > > > > > When we can begin to understand that pain is a component of life > and > > > that we as an expression of life may need to feel it at times, > is > > > the day we begin to reclaim our bodies and our health from those > who > > > would promote a fear based perspective on any and all injury or > > > illness. > > > > > > Not all medical treatments fall into this category though. If I > > > break an arm (which I have done twice-Ouch!) I would prefer to > go to > > > an emergency room. Have it set and imaged and immobilized. Life > > > doesn't always work that way and so I will ask Shakti to move it > and > > > set it and begin to heal it and I will step out of her way! This > is > > > a shocking thought to many so ensconced in the medical > programming > > > given from birth to death. But it is what each and every one of > us > > > has, this potential, in our tailbones to become. > > > > > > When we take the profit motive out of medicine then we will have > a > > > much more honest relationship with our own internal healing > > > modalities. - my take - chrism > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dear Anne - Although traditionally trained, I prefer to look for answers that will really address the problem. Here is an idea from Mercola: http://www.mercola.com/2004/apr/7/sinus_infections.htm Love and Blessings, Melissa , " Anne " <annicole72 wrote: > > I have the worse sinusitis. Any suggestions? I'm trying not to take > anymore anti histamines. But gosh, I keep sniffling none-stop. I think > if I was in a grocery store, you would easily find me by just > following the sound of my sniffles. LOL > > Anne > > , " Melissa " > <mm7810@> wrote: > > > > I would not, but that is always your choice. > > > > Melissa > > > > , " Anne " > > <annicole72@> wrote: > > > > > > So, this is not advisable then? My aunt just reminded me to get > > one. I > > > haven't gone yet though. > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > , " chrism " > > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree. Moms and Dads love their kids so much that they want > > to > > > > keep all pain from ever happening to their children. Especially > > the > > > > sight of their childs blood. Sometimes going so far as to over > > > > protect and not allow the natural immunological functions to be > > > > given growth and expansion and instead fostering a fear based > > > > dependence upon commercialized medicine. > > > > > > > > There was a time when the medical industries did work hard to > > help > > > > people through the use of vaccines. That time has passed long > > ago > > > > when it was uncovered that these pharmaceutical companies where > > > > inserting dangerous and hurtful virus' along with the flu virus > > > > antigen that was advertised. For those not familiar with an > > antigen > > > > here is a brief description: > > > > > > > > " An antigen or immunogen is a molecule that stimulates an immune > > > > response. The word originated from the notion that they can > > > > stimulate antibody generation. We now know that the immune > > system > > > > does not only consist of antibodies. " > > > > > > > > What people have been programmed away from is a trust in their > > own > > > > body's abilities to fight off illness. People will run from pain > > > > first. So anything that is advertised to even " possibly " protect > > > > from pain they will flock to that item. Here just take this > > pill. > > > > Don't stay in shape don't stop eating junk. Don't try and keep a > > > > balance in your emotions . Just take this pill or this shot or > > this > > > > treatment. Now pay us and come back next year unless you want to > > > > POSSIBLY DIE!!!! This is always the mechanism. " You might die if > > you > > > > don't! " > > > > > > > > When we can begin to understand that pain is a component of life > > and > > > > that we as an expression of life may need to feel it at times, > > is > > > > the day we begin to reclaim our bodies and our health from those > > who > > > > would promote a fear based perspective on any and all injury or > > > > illness. > > > > > > > > Not all medical treatments fall into this category though. If I > > > > break an arm (which I have done twice-Ouch!) I would prefer to > > go to > > > > an emergency room. Have it set and imaged and immobilized. Life > > > > doesn't always work that way and so I will ask Shakti to move it > > and > > > > set it and begin to heal it and I will step out of her way! This > > is > > > > a shocking thought to many so ensconced in the medical > > programming > > > > given from birth to death. But it is what each and every one of > > us > > > > has, this potential, in our tailbones to become. > > > > > > > > When we take the profit motive out of medicine then we will have > > a > > > > much more honest relationship with our own internal healing > > > > modalities. - my take - chrism > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Thank you for the link. I will look into it. =) Anne , " Melissa " <mm7810 wrote: > > Dear Anne - > > Although traditionally trained, I prefer to look for answers that > will really address the problem. Here is an idea from Mercola: > http://www.mercola.com/2004/apr/7/sinus_infections.htm > > Love and Blessings, > > Melissa > > , " Anne " > <annicole72@> wrote: > > > > I have the worse sinusitis. Any suggestions? I'm trying not to take > > anymore anti histamines. But gosh, I keep sniffling none-stop. I > think > > if I was in a grocery store, you would easily find me by just > > following the sound of my sniffles. LOL > > > > Anne > > > > , " Melissa " > > <mm7810@> wrote: > > > > > > I would not, but that is always your choice. > > > > > > Melissa > > > > > > , " Anne " > > > <annicole72@> wrote: > > > > > > > > So, this is not advisable then? My aunt just reminded me to > get > > > one. I > > > > haven't gone yet though. > > > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > > > , " chrism " > > > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I agree. Moms and Dads love their kids so much that they > want > > > to > > > > > keep all pain from ever happening to their children. > Especially > > > the > > > > > sight of their childs blood. Sometimes going so far as to > over > > > > > protect and not allow the natural immunological functions to > be > > > > > given growth and expansion and instead fostering a fear > based > > > > > dependence upon commercialized medicine. > > > > > > > > > > There was a time when the medical industries did work hard > to > > > help > > > > > people through the use of vaccines. That time has passed > long > > > ago > > > > > when it was uncovered that these pharmaceutical companies > where > > > > > inserting dangerous and hurtful virus' along with the flu > virus > > > > > antigen that was advertised. For those not familiar with an > > > antigen > > > > > here is a brief description: > > > > > > > > > > " An antigen or immunogen is a molecule that stimulates an > immune > > > > > response. The word originated from the notion that they can > > > > > stimulate antibody generation. We now know that the immune > > > system > > > > > does not only consist of antibodies. " > > > > > > > > > > What people have been programmed away from is a trust in > their > > > own > > > > > body's abilities to fight off illness. People will run from > pain > > > > > first. So anything that is advertised to even " possibly " > protect > > > > > from pain they will flock to that item. Here just take this > > > pill. > > > > > Don't stay in shape don't stop eating junk. Don't try and > keep a > > > > > balance in your emotions . Just take this pill or this shot > or > > > this > > > > > treatment. Now pay us and come back next year unless you > want to > > > > > POSSIBLY DIE!!!! This is always the mechanism. " You might > die if > > > you > > > > > don't! " > > > > > > > > > > When we can begin to understand that pain is a component of > life > > > and > > > > > that we as an expression of life may need to feel it at > times, > > > is > > > > > the day we begin to reclaim our bodies and our health from > those > > > who > > > > > would promote a fear based perspective on any and all injury > or > > > > > illness. > > > > > > > > > > Not all medical treatments fall into this category though. > If I > > > > > break an arm (which I have done twice-Ouch!) I would prefer > to > > > go to > > > > > an emergency room. Have it set and imaged and immobilized. > Life > > > > > doesn't always work that way and so I will ask Shakti to > move it > > > and > > > > > set it and begin to heal it and I will step out of her way! > This > > > is > > > > > a shocking thought to many so ensconced in the medical > > > programming > > > > > given from birth to death. But it is what each and every one > of > > > us > > > > > has, this potential, in our tailbones to become. > > > > > > > > > > When we take the profit motive out of medicine then we will > have > > > a > > > > > much more honest relationship with our own internal healing > > > > > modalities. - my take - chrism > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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