Another odd dream---? -Anyone

[Guest guest]

I have often wondered what's the purpose of taking control of the

dream when it is about something one feels is " bad " happening. Would

that not be rejecting what is being shown to you in the dream and

would be defeating the purpose? When a dream gets more than you can

bare you will wake up automatically. Right? I can see learning to be

aware so as to end a dream to go OBE, but I don't like doing that. I

like experiencing my dreams as much has having an OBE.

Maybe one would not want to try having an OBE upon ending a scarey or

distrubing one, though. A lot of times when I am in a bad

situation in a dream, I seem to split and the conscious part of me

becomes the observer over what is taking place.

 

My take on it though is that those very surreal dreams, may not be a

dream, but an unconscious exit OBE. I don't know if you should

interpret those same as a dream. In the astral one does need to take

control when being attacked, but even with those experiences one is

zapped back into the body and wake up when it gets to much.

 

Linda

 

 

 

, paulrf2

wrote:

>

> Hi Melissa!

>

> I will let other more knowledgeable folks interpret your dream. I

would suggest that before you drift off to sleep, you repeat to

yourself several times, that you will become aware that you are

dreaming as you dream. If you can become aware that you are

dreaming, then you can control it. For myself, when in a scary

dream, I either start chanting a mantra (like aum or hu) to increase

my vibrational rate (and hopefully my perceived power), or I tell

myself to wake. On some level, even if I can't go lucid, I'm

generally aware enough to end the dream. Repeating affirmations

before sleep can help you as you dream.

>

> Now I'll let others reflect on your dream from a Kundalini slant. :-

)

>

> Blessings to you...

>

> Paul

>

> -------------- Original message ----------------------

> " Melissa " <mm7810

> > Divine Brothers and Sisters -

> >

> > If anyone could tell me what this dream is; I would appreciate

it.

> > Since shaktipat began, I am having very weird dreams. Anyway, I

guess

> > I was still married to my second husband, and I had to go the

> > restroom. For some reason, I think I had no clothes on. As I

sat

> > down on the commode, an unknown man, not my husband, came and

crawled

> > right on top of me in an assaulting manner. Then I woke up; it

was

> > very real and very surreal feeling.

> >

> > Help,

> >

> > Melissa

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not all dreams can or should be interpreted in the standard way. I

try my best to get a feel for that when someone posts a dream on my

group. Some are obviously something else, but not always.

 

I agree with you Linda. I never saw the point of taking charge of

certain dreams because then we mess up the message that was

intended. Once you take over, there is no more interpreting that can

be done except of the direction in which you take the dream and why.

 

Sarita

 

, " Linda "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>

> I have often wondered what's the purpose of taking control of the

> dream when it is about something one feels is " bad " happening.

Would

> that not be rejecting what is being shown to you in the dream and

> would be defeating the purpose? When a dream gets more than you can

> bare you will wake up automatically. Right? I can see learning to

be

> aware so as to end a dream to go OBE, but I don't like doing that.

I

> like experiencing my dreams as much has having an OBE.

> Maybe one would not want to try having an OBE upon ending a scarey

or

> distrubing one, though. A lot of times when I am in a bad

> situation in a dream, I seem to split and the conscious part of me

> becomes the observer over what is taking place.

>

> My take on it though is that those very surreal dreams, may not be

a

> dream, but an unconscious exit OBE. I don't know if you should

> interpret those same as a dream. In the astral one does need to

take

> control when being attacked, but even with those experiences one is

> zapped back into the body and wake up when it gets to much.

>

> Linda

[Guest guest]

It's true that one might learn from a " bad " dream, but if I can change a bad

dream or especially become OBE, then I much prefer that. I guess I never had

sufficient control in lucid dreaming to worry about what I might be missing.

 

Blessings... :-)

 

Paul

 

 

> I like experiencing my dreams as much has having an OBE.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Paul:

 

My childhood dreams were beyond bad-they were horrible and made me wake

up in a trembling sweat!

Now, that I'm older a wiser, I can have what some would consider a

nightmare, and sit back and observe; " wonder what this one is all

about? "

 

If I learned anything from those dreams it is:

" Your most formidable enemy comes from within, as does your finest

friend! "

 

:)

Stephen

 

, paulrf2 wrote:

>

> It's true that one might learn from a " bad " dream, but if I can

change a bad dream or especially become OBE, then I much prefer that.

I guess I never had sufficient control in lucid dreaming to worry about

what I might be missing.

>

> Blessings... :-)

>

> Paul

>

>

> > I like experiencing my dreams as much has having an OBE.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In ways, I guess I've lived a boringly good life. :-) I did have a reoccurring

nightmare when I was very small, but that went away after a few years, and since

then, I have had very few bad dreams. Only one or two in the past many years

has upset me to the point of staring at the ceiling for a while upon awakening.

Generally, when a dream starts to get bad, I just think " I don't think so " , and

I wake. My life has been much the same... my basic philosophy has been to

intend no harm to anyone, but to live my life as I choose (excluding some self

imposed responsibilities). As a result, I am highest on my forgiveness list, as

I have few people other than myself that I can blame for anything. :-) I've no

doubt that there are buried things that will need to surface as the K infuses,

and I may soon be writing about the " ghastly dream that I just had " , but for

now I am at ease with myself.

 

I have had a couple of frightening OBE experiences (though all the others were

very good). In one i appeared to be in a lower Astral plane. The vibrations

seemed very course, and it was not pleasant at all to be there. I remember one

or two entities threatening me. I chanted " HU " like a crazy guy and finally

went into fear. I called on the " inner master " , and immediately, my 3rd eye was

filled with a blinding white light. I awoke in bed. Yes, lesson not learned -

I'm sure I'll have to learn to overcome the fear, and the lesson will probably

be repeated at some point. Still, it's a comfort to know that help is available

if needed.

 

Blessings to all :-)

 

Paul

 

 

> Now, that I'm older a wiser, I can have what some would consider a

> nightmare, and sit back and observe; " wonder what this one is all

> about? "

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Paul,

I mostly think of my life as boringly good, although there have been

some rocky times. I had not had many nightmare type dreams either, Up

until this past year, but me being a scifi fan, I sort of enjoy the

spooky ones and weird one and think of the others as boringly good.

 

After reading your second paragraph, I remember I have using a mantra

in a dream/OBE (can't remember which it was now). My oldest daughter

and I was there with a large group of people and there were men in

uniforms hypnotizing these people and were brainwashing/programing

their minds. I lend over to my daughter and whispered to her not to

listen and to chant a mantra silently so the programming would not

take effect on her. We both did that and as one of the unifrom guys

came near us, I looked right at him and he instantly had a look of

fear come into his eyes and he left us in a hurry.

 

Linda

 

 

, paulrf2

wrote:

>

> In ways, I guess I've lived a boringly good life. :-) I did have a

reoccurring nightmare when I was very small, but that went away after

a few years, and since then, I have had very few bad dreams. Only

one or two in the past many years has upset me to the point of

staring at the ceiling for a while upon awakening. Generally, when a

dream starts to get bad, I just think " I don't think so " , and I

wake. My life has been much the same... my basic philosophy has been

to intend no harm to anyone, but to live my life as I choose

(excluding some self imposed responsibilities). As a result, I am

highest on my forgiveness list, as I have few people other than

myself that I can blame for anything. :-) I've no doubt that there

are buried things that will need to surface as the K infuses, and I

may soon be writing about the " ghastly dream that I just had " , but

for now I am at ease with myself.

>

> I have had a couple of frightening OBE experiences (though all the

others were very good). In one i appeared to be in a lower Astral

plane. The vibrations seemed very course, and it was not pleasant at

all to be there. I remember one or two entities threatening me. I

chanted " HU " like a crazy guy and finally went into fear. I called

on the " inner master " , and immediately, my 3rd eye was filled with a

blinding white light. I awoke in bed. Yes, lesson not learned - I'm

sure I'll have to learn to overcome the fear, and the lesson will

probably be repeated at some point. Still, it's a comfort to know

that help is available if needed.

>

> Blessings to all :-)

>

> Paul

>

>

> > Now, that I'm older a wiser, I can have what some would consider

a

> > nightmare, and sit back and observe; " wonder what this one is all

> > about? "

>

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