Spontaneous Awakening is a Myth, Awareness is growing

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Dear Chrism,

 

Very well said and we all need to have less ego and surrender to the

consciousness behind our eyes.

 

Love, Angelina

 

, " chrism "

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>

> To all readers,

> I apologize for having to take such a stringent and

> forceful approach with Betsy. Please understand this isnt the

first

> that we have communicated about her obstinant absolutist opinions

> and statements with regards to the Kundalini and a stronger

approach

> may help her to understand. I do not usually take this route but

> sometimes it is needed. - chrism

>

>

> Yes Betsy we have had this conversation before. And you express

> yourself well which is why it is needed to help untangle some of

> what it is you say that those who are impressed with your

elocution

> will not be consigned to understand an awakening as a process

devoid

> of individual expression. Kundalini a myriad of format and

> expression..

>

> You say - again - an acorn always becomes an Oak Tree. And yes a

> human fetus will always become a human being. This doesn't mean

the

> Kundalini is a pattern that emulates the functions of genetics.

Much

> more is brought into the equation. Because " you " have experienced

an

> activation of Kundalini in a specific way doesn't mean that your

> experience is the " rule " of Kundalini activation.

>

> There is a broad spectrum of activations that do NOT follow your

> model. You just don't seem to accept that. Perhaps this is an ego

> challenge for you to realize that you are not THE Kundalini model

> that authenticates all others, though you seem to cling to this

> idea.

>

> Betsy:

> If you are considering it to be the event

> > when one realizes that they are more than their self-image, then

> one

> > could state that people have spontaneous awakenings. So one

might

> > also call this the start of spirituality - I have no problem

with

> this.

>

> Well " IF " that is what you are feeling an awakening to be then we

> are not communicating about the same thing at all.

>

> Why are you going off into this direction? Betsy this group is

about

> KUNDALINI AWAKENING not a beginning recognition of spirituality.

> Though for some this comes WITH a Kundalini awakening.

>

> Betsy:

> I even stated the same in my article, there are profound events

> > that happen with deep surrenders, and in the past I called these

> > the same. I change that for several reasons and one is because

> > I realize that spontaneous isn't accurate. There is always a

cause

> > for something; to call it spontaneous makes it seem like a

> miracle,

>

> Deep surrender isn't a necessity for a Kundalini event to

> initialize. It is necessary for it to mature safely. Spontaneity

is

> a correct description of a sudden on rush of Kundalini to a person

> not looking for it. It can happen in seconds and minutes and it

can

> be quite immediate. BUT it didn't happen that way for you, so you

> have no reference for that kind of activity. Just because you

Betsy

> have not experienced Kundalini in a sudden onslaught of symptom

and

> phenomena does not make it an impossible or improbable condition

for

> OTHERS to experience.

>

> Your experience is not the only way to experience the Kundalini.

Yes

> I know you are the queen of kriyas. And in the past you have felt

> that you should be seen as an " authority " on that subject. You

have

> in fact expressed frustration that you are not recognized as such.

> So here you are once again. But this time it is the authenticity

of

> the awakening process and awareness as others experience it that

you

> attack. Because they have experience outside of your own, you are

> here once again to push your personal agenda and though your

weaving

> has improved your message is the same. It's all about " you " Betsy

> and your need to be seen as an authority. Which may occur when you

> can include the veracity of other peoples experiences.

>

> Same with the miraculous. Until you Betsy have an experience with

a

> miracle you will not understand what it is you dismiss with such a

> cavalier attitude towards it. You are like a child that can't

> believe something until they experience it themselves, having

> absolutely no trust in the experiences of others. Then if that

> experience finally reaches you well then your story changes. If it

> doesn't you continue to guide others into your own limited

> experience. There by causing them doubts and perhaps damage when

> their experience becomes different than yours.

>

> This is the damage you cause. It is like basing a lie in truth for

> the lie to be swallowed with greater ease. Yet you do it from the

> position of " some " experience and belittling and casting doubt

upon

> the experiences of others because they do not fit your paradigm.

>

> Betsy:

> putting into the clouds of spirituality and unknown reasons not

> > allowing to see the reason for the awakening came from inside

> > the person themselves. Awakenings or rises in awareness happen

> > when the personality lets go of clinging to itself. And I don't

> like

> > 'awakening' mostly because people see it as finite and the danger

> > with this is that they stop, thinking they are done when they

> experience

> > these profound openings.

>

> Awakening of the Kundalini will come from many different locations

> and stimulus. And you are a blessed example of how that activity

> has further to go. So as you continue to " cling " to yourself in

> this regard please consider the possibility that you are not done

> either. We will wait to see what your developments cause you to

> change in your assessment of what awakening is about if you

indeed

> allow yourself to reach that far.

>

>

> Betsy:

> So the bottom line is I guess you don't accept that awareness is a

> > growing process and that we are growing. This defies all that I

> observe

> > about myself and the things growing around me, evolution in

other

> words.

>

> Yes Betsy you are guessing. You project upon me your own

conclusions

> about what you " guess " I think. This should be a red flag for you.

> You are projecting on me and on everyone your own little version

of

> your special reality. Foisting it off as incontrovertible fact.

The

> pitfall of the absolutist.

>

> I have never indicated that awareness was not a growing process.

> Indeed I recognize that the entire awakening platform is a growing

> process and I indicate many times that " slow is good " for this

very

> reason.

>

> If this defies all that you observe about yourself then perhaps it

> is time that you looked at someone other than yourself.

>

> Betsy:

> The thing I think people might not understand about it is that we

> > are not split. We are not 'higher awareness' and also the ego.

> > We are one body, one person who has grown to be what we

> > are today. What we are today has to do with all that came before,

> > we are what we are.

>

> Before Kundalini or a similar event occurs Betsy we are indeed

> split. We are higher awareness and ego. Mostly ego. This is how we

> are able to differentiate between the two when a Kundalini event

> occurs and in some cases before that kind of an event occurs. Yes

we

> reside in the single body. We are not just the body Betsy. There

is

> consciousness behind the eyes that animates the body. And to say

> that we are what we are is just stating the obvious.

>

>

>

> Betsy:

> We can't jump out of our personality in an instant of recognition,

> > because we are it. We can only let go of our clinging on it, and

> > this takes its time. It is a dropping, a letting go, a

dissolving,

> > a displacement and in the space opened by the dropping

> > awareness fills in.

>

> We change with the recognition Betsy. By that change we see

> ourselves in a different way. This may be a complete and distinct

> difference from the personality we were before the event, to the

one

> who is now awakened. It can be a stunning change and far outside

of

> the previously expressed personality. Miraculous even.

>

> With a spontaneous Kundalini awakening the awareness of what is

> reality has just - in an instant - undergone a complete change.

This

> didn't happen for you so you don't know about it, but it does

> happen. And to those it happens to they are quite changed - in the

> instant -from the experience.

>

> This is another example of the restrictions you put into the

> Kundalini equation based on your lack of experience in that area

of

> the Kundalini expression.

>

> Only after that initial experience do we come into the

understanding

> that yes the little (i) needs to be given some discipline. And

> that " The Higher Aspects " of who we are now need to become the

> dominant aspect of the personality. This is how the safeties work.

> Yes, I know you do not practice them. No kidding.

>

> Betsy:

> Surrender is surrender, you either are doing it or you are not

> > doing it. I know you think this is absolute for me to express

this

> and

> > it is, there is no question about it. Once you know for sure

what

> > surrender is then you can state this matter of fact. There is no

> other

> > form of expression for it although one might try different ways

to

> > do it and there are many interpretations about what surrender

> might be,

> > until one is sure about what it is and how to do it. This

happens

> when

> > one's awareness is high enough to know the difference.

>

>

> Your absolutism is an example of your immaturity in these areas. A

> scorched earth approach. A way of escaping your fear by molding

your

> reasoning into a format that is explainable for you and empowering

> to you as an agent of " the only authentic way. " A position of

> denial. And by teaching it to others you surround yourself with

> company to stave of the glowing eyes in the dark.

>

> But you only avoid it Betsy. It will still come for you. It is

> indeed coming for you now. And no matter how you couch your

> experience in well explained formats you will still, have to face

> them. Your fears do not care about how reasonable your explanation

> to yourself and others is. Or about how authentic you feel you

are.

> Or how well you write. This is the one improvement I have noticed

in

> you Betsy.

>

> Surrender takes many forms. At first it is a foreign concept to

many

> and so slow approaches are best. Forgiving and gratitude and love

> help this to strengthen. Surrender is also a process and to cut it

> into your expression of doing it or not is another display of

> ignorance and indicates a lack of the very quality you claim to

> understand.

>

> When the ability to surrender is attained it isn't just to the

> process it is to all personal preconceptions of what and how that

> process will express. This is why I am saying that though your way

> is good for you it isn't the one and only way that is experienced.

> You lose your desire to cling to your own little world of

> expectation and open to the larger view. I hope you are able to

> experience this Betsy. - chrism

>