Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 The west. When I talk about the west I mean as a society. The Western Way as I feel you mean it is really a European take on eastern thought systems. Christ and Demons and Angels and Lucifer. They exist and are a path. They represent the right and left the good and bad. The polarities. Many of the paths represent this in the human experience. The symbols may change the personages may be different but the context remains the same. Our path through the polarities. Are we going to be a good person today or not? The western alchemical path is a virtuous one if you are virtuous with in it. The use of entities is more pronounced and the use of fear as it has polluted that path is also strong. But fear exists on other paths as well. I do not malign the western path. I have not had positive experiences with it though, I will say that. Because of its use of fear and punishment as described in the writings of " Abremalin the Mage " and the " Golden Dawn " and " Aleister Crowley " " The Fulcanelli Legend " and the numerous barrowings from the Egyptian belief systems and culture. It is a valid path and a virtuous path if you are that way with in it. With the Kundalini, my priority with what happens here is safety and sanity both of which can be at risk in some of these other paths. I do not encourage entity attachments. Because a new Kundalini person can be so easily taken advantage of by these discarnate forces that do not pay any physical costs for the damage incurred. That do so often with malicious intent veiled with in good intentions and used as a way of trapping the person inside an artificial world or reality of abuse and suffering. Harvesting the Kundalini and feeding on it as they go. So I do not support these areas. Yes not all aspects of the Western Path do this. But enough of it does encourage these interactions that I will not support or encourage anyone contemplating a Kundalini path into partaking of these practices, even if they are in pain. Ask that helpful entity of yours if I am off base Pam. See what comes up for you. has quit this group because she enjoys such interactions via Doreen Virtue. Doreen has a PHD so she must be right......right? And her last name is ....Virtue.....so she must be that way right? I do not go with the Hermetics as they involve capitulation to entities that have very little responsibility for being ...virtuous. So I ask people to take personal responsibility. To make the choices that need to be made from a place of personal responsibility. Because it is YOU who will pay the price. It is YOU who should garner the benefit in my humble opinion. Your Kundalini belongs to you and you share it with those aspects of higher consciousness that you choose to share it with. Those aspects from a Kundalini perspective are waiting for that to take place and they come with very recognizable interactions. As the safeties are based in love and helpfulness and personal responsibility, it is these qualities that are supported and given here. Not a supplication to the " intergalactic fleets of the White brotherhood " Or the spirit guides of those who have passed like Blavatsky or Bailey. Limitations and half truths abound. So I suggest a system based in your personal truths and ethics. Not some entity. Or group of entities. They are dime a dozen and most of them are not interested in your advancement. Not all mind you, but most in my experience. It's mostly a distraction from taking personal responsibility for you actions and attitudes as you express them towards others and yourself in your life. There are also some very painful results in accepting entity attachment. Getting bitten repeatedly or stung over and over. Oh! Didn't Red Feather mention that? Or Djwal Kul? Or Saint Germaine? Or the Ascended Masters of the Seven Heavens? Oh! And commander WTF from the intergalactic fleet. Can't forget him! Heh! No, you take the steps - you personally plant the seed and water the soil and YOU reap the rewards - You gain the power and the divinity. YOU! No one and no " thing " else. That is how I feel about that. And if that is hurtful to some folks I do understand and bid them " fare well " if that is what they need to do. I do not mean to impugn others choices in these matters. I do mean to support as safe an environment as can be given inside the tender early awakenings and activations in this group. - blessings - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Thanks Chrism, In the past I have been made to feel guilty by some because I did not show love or try to find out what the entity that hassled me wanted. I am glad I did what felt natural to me and commanded it leave. I am sure it was there to take my energy, for it always came around when my K was being most active. Before I knew what K was, I actually thought that it, the entity, was the cause of the electric energy going up my spine. Linda , " chrism " <> wrote: > > The west. When I talk about the west I mean as a society. The > Western Way as I feel you mean it is really a European take on > eastern thought systems. Christ and Demons and Angels and Lucifer. > > They exist and are a path. They represent the right and left the > good and bad. The polarities. Many of the paths represent this in > the human experience. The symbols may change the personages may be > different but the context remains the same. Our path through the > polarities. > > Are we going to be a good person today or not? > > The western alchemical path is a virtuous one if you are virtuous > with in it. The use of entities is more pronounced and the use of > fear as it has polluted that path is also strong. But fear exists on > other paths as well. I do not malign the western path. I have not > had positive experiences with it though, I will say that. Because of > its use of fear and punishment as described in the writings > of " Abremalin the Mage " and the " Golden Dawn " and " Aleister > Crowley " " The Fulcanelli Legend " and the numerous barrowings from > the Egyptian belief systems and culture. > > It is a valid path and a virtuous path if you are that way with in > it. > > With the Kundalini, my priority with what happens here is safety and > sanity both of which can be at risk in some of these other paths. I > do not encourage entity attachments. > > Because a new Kundalini person can be so easily taken advantage of > by these discarnate forces that do not pay any physical costs for > the damage incurred. That do so often with malicious intent veiled > with in good intentions and used as a way of trapping the person > inside an artificial world or reality of abuse and suffering. > Harvesting the Kundalini and feeding on it as they go. > > So I do not support these areas. Yes not all aspects of the Western > Path do this. But enough of it does encourage these interactions > that I will not support or encourage anyone contemplating a > Kundalini path into partaking of these practices, even if they are > in pain. > > Ask that helpful entity of yours if I am off base Pam. See what > comes up for you. > > has quit this group because she enjoys > such interactions via Doreen Virtue. Doreen has a PHD so she must be > right......right? And her last name is ....Virtue.....so she must be > that way right? > > I do not go with the Hermetics as they involve capitulation to > entities that have very little responsibility for being ...virtuous. > So I ask people to take personal responsibility. To make the choices > that need to be made from a place of personal responsibility. > Because it is YOU who will pay the price. It is YOU who should > garner the benefit in my humble opinion. Your Kundalini belongs to > you and you share it with those aspects of higher consciousness that > you choose to share it with. Those aspects from a Kundalini > perspective are waiting for that to take place and they come with > very recognizable interactions. > > As the safeties are based in love and helpfulness and personal > responsibility, it is these qualities that are supported and given > here. Not a supplication to the " intergalactic fleets of the White > brotherhood " Or the spirit guides of those who have passed like > Blavatsky or Bailey. Limitations and half truths abound. > > So I suggest a system based in your personal truths and ethics. Not > some entity. Or group of entities. They are dime a dozen and most of > them are not interested in your advancement. Not all mind you, but > most in my experience. It's mostly a distraction from taking > personal responsibility for you actions and attitudes as you express > them towards others and yourself in your life. > > There are also some very painful results in accepting entity > attachment. Getting bitten repeatedly or stung over and over. Oh! > Didn't Red Feather mention that? Or Djwal Kul? Or Saint Germaine? Or > the Ascended Masters of the Seven Heavens? Oh! And commander WTF > from the intergalactic fleet. Can't forget him! > > Heh! No, you take the steps - you personally plant the seed and > water the soil and YOU reap the rewards - You gain the power and the > divinity. YOU! No one and no " thing " else. > > That is how I feel about that. And if that is hurtful to some folks > I do understand and bid them " fare well " if that is what they need > to do. I do not mean to impugn others choices in these matters. I do > mean to support as safe an environment as can be given inside the > tender early awakenings and activations in this group. - blessings - > chrism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 A-men! Sarita , " chrism " <> wrote: > > The west. When I talk about the west I mean as a society. The > Western Way as I feel you mean it is really a European take on > eastern thought systems. Christ and Demons and Angels and Lucifer. > > They exist and are a path. They represent the right and left the > good and bad. The polarities. Many of the paths represent this in > the human experience. The symbols may change the personages may be > different but the context remains the same. Our path through the > polarities. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 Yes, but even the poles are shifting too...watch out for the year 2010, if Asians like us can be flexible, I dont see a reason why the country (West) that started Globalization cannot: just my humble opinion. http://www.alienshift.com/id177.html chancebodhi (arap_8) Sarita <sarita1969 wrote: A-men! Sarita , " chrism " <> wrote: > > The west. When I talk about the west I mean as a society. The > Western Way as I feel you mean it is really a European take on > eastern thought systems. Christ and Demons and Angels and Lucifer. > > They exist and are a path. They represent the right and left the > good and bad. The polarities. Many of the paths represent this in > the human experience. The symbols may change the personages may be > different but the context remains the same. Our path through the > polarities. > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 Chris M, Do incubus & sucubuses still exist today ? Please share your knowledge ....thanks. tehora he, chancebodhi (arap_8) Linda <crazycats711 wrote: Thanks Chrism, In the past I have been made to feel guilty by some because I did not show love or try to find out what the entity that hassled me wanted. I am glad I did what felt natural to me and commanded it leave. I am sure it was there to take my energy, for it always came around when my K was being most active. Before I knew what K was, I actually thought that it, the entity, was the cause of the electric energy going up my spine. Linda , " chrism " <> wrote: > > The west. When I talk about the west I mean as a society. The > Western Way as I feel you mean it is really a European take on > eastern thought systems. Christ and Demons and Angels and Lucifer. > > They exist and are a path. They represent the right and left the > good and bad. The polarities. Many of the paths represent this in > the human experience. The symbols may change the personages may be > different but the context remains the same. Our path through the > polarities. > > Are we going to be a good person today or not? > > The western alchemical path is a virtuous one if you are virtuous > with in it. The use of entities is more pronounced and the use of > fear as it has polluted that path is also strong. But fear exists on > other paths as well. I do not malign the western path. I have not > had positive experiences with it though, I will say that. Because of > its use of fear and punishment as described in the writings > of " Abremalin the Mage " and the " Golden Dawn " and " Aleister > Crowley " " The Fulcanelli Legend " and the numerous barrowings from > the Egyptian belief systems and culture. > > It is a valid path and a virtuous path if you are that way with in > it. > > With the Kundalini, my priority with what happens here is safety and > sanity both of which can be at risk in some of these other paths. I > do not encourage entity attachments. > > Because a new Kundalini person can be so easily taken advantage of > by these discarnate forces that do not pay any physical costs for > the damage incurred. That do so often with malicious intent veiled > with in good intentions and used as a way of trapping the person > inside an artificial world or reality of abuse and suffering. > Harvesting the Kundalini and feeding on it as they go. > > So I do not support these areas. Yes not all aspects of the Western > Path do this. But enough of it does encourage these interactions > that I will not support or encourage anyone contemplating a > Kundalini path into partaking of these practices, even if they are > in pain. > > Ask that helpful entity of yours if I am off base Pam. See what > comes up for you. > > has quit this group because she enjoys > such interactions via Doreen Virtue. Doreen has a PHD so she must be > right......right? And her last name is ....Virtue.....so she must be > that way right? > > I do not go with the Hermetics as they involve capitulation to > entities that have very little responsibility for being ...virtuous. > So I ask people to take personal responsibility. To make the choices > that need to be made from a place of personal responsibility. > Because it is YOU who will pay the price. It is YOU who should > garner the benefit in my humble opinion. Your Kundalini belongs to > you and you share it with those aspects of higher consciousness that > you choose to share it with. Those aspects from a Kundalini > perspective are waiting for that to take place and they come with > very recognizable interactions. > > As the safeties are based in love and helpfulness and personal > responsibility, it is these qualities that are supported and given > here. Not a supplication to the " intergalactic fleets of the White > brotherhood " Or the spirit guides of those who have passed like > Blavatsky or Bailey. Limitations and half truths abound. > > So I suggest a system based in your personal truths and ethics. Not > some entity. Or group of entities. They are dime a dozen and most of > them are not interested in your advancement. Not all mind you, but > most in my experience. It's mostly a distraction from taking > personal responsibility for you actions and attitudes as you express > them towards others and yourself in your life. > > There are also some very painful results in accepting entity > attachment. Getting bitten repeatedly or stung over and over. Oh! > Didn't Red Feather mention that? Or Djwal Kul? Or Saint Germaine? Or > the Ascended Masters of the Seven Heavens? Oh! And commander WTF > from the intergalactic fleet. Can't forget him! > > Heh! No, you take the steps - you personally plant the seed and > water the soil and YOU reap the rewards - You gain the power and the > divinity. YOU! No one and no " thing " else. > > That is how I feel about that. And if that is hurtful to some folks > I do understand and bid them " fare well " if that is what they need > to do. I do not mean to impugn others choices in these matters. I do > mean to support as safe an environment as can be given inside the > tender early awakenings and activations in this group. - blessings - > chrism > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 Well said, Chris! Good post. Amanda ---- Original Message ---- RE: Re: other systems mixing here - Pam Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:25:31 -0000 >The west. When I talk about the west I mean as a society. The >Western Way as I feel you mean it is really a European take on >eastern thought systems. Christ and Demons and Angels and Lucifer. > >They exist and are a path. They represent the right and left the >good and bad. The polarities. Many of the paths represent this in >the human experience. The symbols may change the personages may be >different but the context remains the same. Our path through the >polarities. > >Are we going to be a good person today or not? > >The western alchemical path is a virtuous one if you are virtuous >with in it. The use of entities is more pronounced and the use of >fear as it has polluted that path is also strong. But fear exists on >other paths as well. I do not malign the western path. I have not >had positive experiences with it though, I will say that. Because of >its use of fear and punishment as described in the writings >of " Abremalin the Mage " and the " Golden Dawn " and " Aleister >Crowley " " The Fulcanelli Legend " and the numerous barrowings from >the Egyptian belief systems and culture. > >It is a valid path and a virtuous path if you are that way with in >it. > >With the Kundalini, my priority with what happens here is safety and >sanity both of which can be at risk in some of these other paths. I >do not encourage entity attachments. > >Because a new Kundalini person can be so easily taken advantage of >by these discarnate forces that do not pay any physical costs for >the damage incurred. That do so often with malicious intent veiled >with in good intentions and used as a way of trapping the person >inside an artificial world or reality of abuse and suffering. >Harvesting the Kundalini and feeding on it as they go. > >So I do not support these areas. Yes not all aspects of the Western >Path do this. But enough of it does encourage these interactions >that I will not support or encourage anyone contemplating a >Kundalini path into partaking of these practices, even if they are >in pain. > >Ask that helpful entity of yours if I am off base Pam. See what >comes up for you. > >has quit this group because she enjoys >such interactions via Doreen Virtue. Doreen has a PHD so she must be >right......right? And her last name is ....Virtue.....so she must be >that way right? > >I do not go with the Hermetics as they involve capitulation to >entities that have very little responsibility for being ...virtuous. >So I ask people to take personal responsibility. To make the choices >that need to be made from a place of personal responsibility. >Because it is YOU who will pay the price. It is YOU who should >garner the benefit in my humble opinion. Your Kundalini belongs to >you and you share it with those aspects of higher consciousness that >you choose to share it with. Those aspects from a Kundalini >perspective are waiting for that to take place and they come with >very recognizable interactions. > >As the safeties are based in love and helpfulness and personal >responsibility, it is these qualities that are supported and given >here. Not a supplication to the " intergalactic fleets of the White >brotherhood " Or the spirit guides of those who have passed like >Blavatsky or Bailey. Limitations and half truths abound. > >So I suggest a system based in your personal truths and ethics. Not >some entity. Or group of entities. They are dime a dozen and most of >them are not interested in your advancement. Not all mind you, but >most in my experience. It's mostly a distraction from taking >personal responsibility for you actions and attitudes as you express >them towards others and yourself in your life. > >There are also some very painful results in accepting entity >attachment. Getting bitten repeatedly or stung over and over. Oh! >Didn't Red Feather mention that? Or Djwal Kul? Or Saint Germaine? Or >the Ascended Masters of the Seven Heavens? Oh! And commander WTF >from the intergalactic fleet. Can't forget him! > >Heh! No, you take the steps - you personally plant the seed and >water the soil and YOU reap the rewards - You gain the power and the >divinity. YOU! No one and no " thing " else. > >That is how I feel about that. And if that is hurtful to some folks >I do understand and bid them " fare well " if that is what they need >to do. I do not mean to impugn others choices in these matters. I do >mean to support as safe an environment as can be given inside the >tender early awakenings and activations in this group. - blessings - >chrism > > > > > > http://www.gibline.com/ara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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