Apprenticeship Intending Individuals - Steve

[Guest guest]

It is complete surrender and trust. Calling it slavery is, in this

context, a fear response. Fear of losing control. This loss of

control is what is needed to traverse many aspects of this journey

and if you read it carefully she is submitting as much to the

Kundalini and God. Becky trusts me as her teacher and guide through

this process and the complete surrendering inside this process

covers all areas of life.

 

Physical attachment is a very big deal. She and Melissa and any of

the others interested will have opened themselves, sincerely to the

possibility of not having the ball and chain of physical attachment

weighing down their process. This is important.

 

So is the idea and action of surrendering to the teachings

especially inside of the Kundalini which can be so demanding. They

have chosen to accept my humble services as an arbiter and teacher

of their progress. I accept this responsibility and it is on my

head. So I take this very seriously.

 

But make no mistake this is the degree of surrender required. And if

anyone does any research. These are also the commitment levels shown

by teachers and students through out the world when teaching and

learning this subject matter. These are sacred teachings as Becky

has mentioned and they are in good company with other systems that

have and do approach these rare and sacred areas of the human

condition. -

[Guest guest]

chrism, i always appreciate your care in articulating surrendur, since so

much comes up around it.

this email was another opportunity for me to explore what is there for me.

 

 

On 10/16/07, chrism <> wrote:

>

> It is complete surrender and trust. Calling it slavery is, in this

> context, a fear response. Fear of losing control. This loss of

> control is what is needed to traverse many aspects of this journey

> and if you read it carefully she is submitting as much to the

> Kundalini and God. Becky trusts me as her teacher and guide through

> this process and the complete surrendering inside this process

> covers all areas of life.

>

> Physical attachment is a very big deal. She and Melissa and any of

> the others interested will have opened themselves, sincerely to the

> possibility of not having the ball and chain of physical attachment

> weighing down their process. This is important.

>

> So is the idea and action of surrendering to the teachings

> especially inside of the Kundalini which can be so demanding. They

> have chosen to accept my humble services as an arbiter and teacher

> of their progress. I accept this responsibility and it is on my

> head. So I take this very seriously.

>

> But make no mistake this is the degree of surrender required. And if

> anyone does any research. These are also the commitment levels shown

> by teachers and students through out the world when teaching and

> learning this subject matter. These are sacred teachings as Becky

> has mentioned and they are in good company with other systems that

> have and do approach these rare and sacred areas of the human

> condition. -

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

dear chrism... i'm not in fear of losing control since i've never really felt

i've had that much

to begin with. yet i felt i needed clarification on your thoughts on surrender.

i feel i've lived

in surrender for the past two years since the seminar. i've experienced the

benefits as well

as the challenges and have responded to the best of my ability and limited

understanding.

i'm just saying that even when one makes the committment to surrender, that does

not

mean that discrimination and choice goes away. every moment is a choice. so how

would

this be different than before? if shakti is a room in flames and the teacher

says, 'do not try

to run from this room or you will be burned', than one follows the teacher for

he is held in

trust. i would not have come this far without complete trust in you and i have

yet to

experience the fear you promised that each of us would encounter. i state my

continuing

desire to surrender, serve and awaken.

with love,

-steve f

 

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> It is complete surrender and trust. Calling it slavery is, in this

> context, a fear response. Fear of losing control. This loss of

> control is what is needed to traverse many aspects of this journey

> and if you read it carefully she is submitting as much to the

> Kundalini and God. Becky trusts me as her teacher and guide through

> this process and the complete surrendering inside this process

> covers all areas of life.

>

> Physical attachment is a very big deal. She and Melissa and any of

> the others interested will have opened themselves, sincerely to the

> possibility of not having the ball and chain of physical attachment

> weighing down their process. This is important.

>

> So is the idea and action of surrendering to the teachings

> especially inside of the Kundalini which can be so demanding. They

> have chosen to accept my humble services as an arbiter and teacher

> of their progress. I accept this responsibility and it is on my

> head. So I take this very seriously.

>

> But make no mistake this is the degree of surrender required. And if

> anyone does any research. These are also the commitment levels shown

> by teachers and students through out the world when teaching and

> learning this subject matter. These are sacred teachings as Becky

> has mentioned and they are in good company with other systems that

> have and do approach these rare and sacred areas of the human

> condition. -

>

[Guest guest]

Every one has their own speed and conditions of activation and

awakening. Everyone is unique in the issues that come to the fore

for them inside this process. One thing stands well clear of many of

the common conditions for a beneficial awakening. That is the degree

of surrender.

 

For APRENTICESHIP I require a depth of surrender that isn't

typically able to be given on a whim or even in the way of what one

does after some thought. It needs to be struggled with. It needs to

be difficult and a leap of faith. That is the reason it is asked for

in such detail and depth.

 

It is as strong and as sincere and personal an inclusive as a person

can make it. You surrender this to the teacher, to me. You surrender

this to Shakti and to God as well. A trinity. I am not attempting to

control nor have power over others. I could be just as happy not

being a teacher and going about my life like anyone else. Yet

Kundalini wishes to express through me in this way so I offer it to

others. I set parameters of conditioning that folks can receive

maximum benefit and activity.

 

All material and emotional and mental and physical control needs to

be surrendered. Through this process does the surrender of control

to the activity of the Kundalini become first and second nature.

Supported by the teacher and backed up by the Kundalini in its

unique expression through that person. -

[Guest guest]

dear chrism... thank you for your message. i will meditate on this issue. i

understand that

surrender is not slavery. but when i read becky's declaration, i was reminded of

the

discussion we were having regarding the k mystriss and of how she demanded the

complete surrender and $$ of her followers. i know that you are not ego based as

she is

but it gave me the creeps thinking about people signing over their lives to

something false

while believing they'll be awakened in a safe way. perhaps i reacted this way

because i read

this post while i was at work where so many were presenting in their pain and

suffering

and i was a bit stressed. so i apologize to you and becky for any

misunderstanding and i

understand that you will not demand that we hurt ourselves or anyone else in

this process.

you are cool.

love,

-steve f

 

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> Every one has their own speed and conditions of activation and

> awakening. Everyone is unique in the issues that come to the fore

> for them inside this process. One thing stands well clear of many of

> the common conditions for a beneficial awakening. That is the degree

> of surrender.

>

> For APRENTICESHIP I require a depth of surrender that isn't

> typically able to be given on a whim or even in the way of what one

> does after some thought. It needs to be struggled with. It needs to

> be difficult and a leap of faith. That is the reason it is asked for

> in such detail and depth.

>

> It is as strong and as sincere and personal an inclusive as a person

> can make it. You surrender this to the teacher, to me. You surrender

> this to Shakti and to God as well. A trinity. I am not attempting to

> control nor have power over others. I could be just as happy not

> being a teacher and going about my life like anyone else. Yet

> Kundalini wishes to express through me in this way so I offer it to

> others. I set parameters of conditioning that folks can receive

> maximum benefit and activity.

>

> All material and emotional and mental and physical control needs to

> be surrendered. Through this process does the surrender of control

> to the activity of the Kundalini become first and second nature.

> Supported by the teacher and backed up by the Kundalini in its

> unique expression through that person. -

>

[Guest guest]

Dearest Steve -

There's no need to apologize. When the apprenticeship was brought up I

questioned it, I pondered, and questioned and questioned. Then as these

tremendous tumultuous thoughts were invading me a light came on. The light was

trust, the trust I have in the Blessed Mother, and his teachings. I

already knew my destiny, way before made the apprenticeship available.

 

Chrism was willing and is willing to help us all in our path, my problem was

getting past the non-essentials to get to the pure feeling of trust. The

surrendering gave me the vehicle to feel very deeply the trust I place in the

teachings. I am not surrendering to obtain awakening, I am surrendering because

prior to meeting Chrism, prior to knowing what Kundalini was, one June afternoon

of this year, The Blessed Mother awoke in me, activating me, I have not been the

same since, I am at a point of no return. The only thing left is to go forwards

and that's what I intend to do. is the 'deliveryman " (no offense Chrism,

lol) of the knowledge there is, the guidance we are given and the teachings we

are so blessed to be offered.

 

My Love for you,

Becky

 

gnilaeh1111 <gnilaeh1111 wrote: dear

chrism... thank you for your message. i will meditate on this issue. i

understand that

surrender is not slavery. but when i read becky's declaration, i was reminded

of the

discussion we were having regarding the k mystriss and of how she demanded the

complete surrender and $$ of her followers. i know that you are not ego based

as she is

but it gave me the creeps thinking about people signing over their lives to

something false

while believing they'll be awakened in a safe way. perhaps i reacted this way

because i read

this post while i was at work where so many were presenting in their pain and

suffering

and i was a bit stressed. so i apologize to you and becky for any

misunderstanding and i

understand that you will not demand that we hurt ourselves or anyone else in

this process.

you are cool.

love,

-steve f

 

, " chrism "

<>

wrote:

>

> Every one has their own speed and conditions of activation and

> awakening. Everyone is unique in the issues that come to the fore

> for them inside this process. One thing stands well clear of many of

> the common conditions for a beneficial awakening. That is the degree

> of surrender.

>

> For APRENTICESHIP I require a depth of surrender that isn't

> typically able to be given on a whim or even in the way of what one

> does after some thought. It needs to be struggled with. It needs to

> be difficult and a leap of faith. That is the reason it is asked for

> in such detail and depth.

>

> It is as strong and as sincere and personal an inclusive as a person

> can make it. You surrender this to the teacher, to me. You surrender

> this to Shakti and to God as well. A trinity. I am not attempting to

> control nor have power over others. I could be just as happy not

> being a teacher and going about my life like anyone else. Yet

> Kundalini wishes to express through me in this way so I offer it to

> others. I set parameters of conditioning that folks can receive

> maximum benefit and activity.

>

> All material and emotional and mental and physical control needs to

> be surrendered. Through this process does the surrender of control

> to the activity of the Kundalini become first and second nature.

> Supported by the teacher and backed up by the Kundalini in its

> unique expression through that person. -

>