Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 You all don't know me, but as an interested spouse of one potential " devotee " , who has read, among other posts, Becky's declaration, and then Chrism's note to the rest, regarding said declaration - and BTW, as a working person - I am in the WRONG LINE OF WORK!!! I should have thought of this! (laughing) Seriously, as one who also practices yoga, meditation, and even my own amalgam of many styles of internal and external martial arts, who walks his own path and has achieved a sense of self, inner peace and the ability to discern wheat from chaff, I would caution you all to use your own. Your Volition (not power) rests NOT with another person, regimen, art or teaching... to give that up carelessly, to 'surrender' it, is tantamount to forsaking the sacred within. To all - peace and Namaste (The god in me acknowledges the god in you) Just a reminder ... Tex Rex P.S Becky - you got it goin' on, girl! (wink) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 You HAVE to be Pam's Husband! Welcome, sir! AND.... As a fellow Martial Artist, may I say... Namaste! Stephen AKA Master Condrey , " Pam " <mystick53 wrote: > > > You all don't know me, but as an interested spouse of one > potential " devotee " , who has read, among other posts, Becky's > declaration, and then Chrism's note to the rest, regarding said > declaration - and BTW, as a working person - I am in the WRONG LINE > OF WORK!!! I should have thought of this! (laughing) > > Seriously, as one who also practices yoga, meditation, and even my > own amalgam of many styles of internal and external martial arts, who > walks his own path and has achieved a sense of self, inner peace and > the ability to discern wheat from chaff, I would caution you all to > use your own. > > Your Volition (not power) rests NOT with another person, regimen, art > or teaching... to give that up carelessly, to 'surrender' it, is > tantamount to forsaking the sacred within. > > To all - peace and Namaste (The god in me acknowledges the god in > you) Just a reminder ... > > Tex Rex > > > P.S Becky - you got it goin' on, girl! (wink) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 TRM, I can assure you that no one here is surrendering their free will, and Chrism has NEVER asked us to do so. We are following our own paths while learning from someone who has been through Hell and back and is now walking beside us. We all have to choice to heed his teachings...or reject them. Pam has made her choice, which I assume you believe is a good one. So what's the beef? We are all intelligent adults here, not cultists...we are perfectly capable of making our own decisions. Peace and Namaste to you, too, Claudia Pam <mystick53 wrote: You all don't know me, but as an interested spouse of one potential " devotee " , who has read, among other posts, Becky's declaration, and then Chrism's note to the rest, regarding said declaration - and BTW, as a working person - I am in the WRONG LINE OF WORK!!! I should have thought of this! (laughing) Seriously, as one who also practices yoga, meditation, and even my own amalgam of many styles of internal and external martial arts, who walks his own path and has achieved a sense of self, inner peace and the ability to discern wheat from chaff, I would caution you all to use your own. Your Volition (not power) rests NOT with another person, regimen, art or teaching... to give that up carelessly, to 'surrender' it, is tantamount to forsaking the sacred within. To all - peace and Namaste (The god in me acknowledges the god in you) Just a reminder ... Tex Rex P.S Becky - you got it goin' on, girl! (wink) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 , Claudia <newtfoodbowl wrote: > > TRM, > > I can assure you that no one here is surrendering their free will, and has NEVER asked us to do so. (Rex) Hi Claudia... True, I've not read each and every missive; what I DID read of Chrism since Pam had joined and (glowingly) showed me, largely impressed me, precisely because he encouraged self-responsibility and self-knowledge, the underpinnings of free will. > We are following our own paths while learning from someone who has been through Hell and back and is now walking beside us. We all have to choice to heed his teachings...or reject them. Pam has made her choice, which I assume you believe is a good one. So what's the beef? > (Rex) The beef? Read the declaration again. Then read Chrism's post regarding Becky's and like requests of all of you interested in pursuing this study further through him. Now... physically speaking, I'm probably one of those who would be ready for the teaching, might get the most out of it. I want Pam and I to find a good yoga teacher here, and want her to get ready for such an endeavor, do the right practice for a while; regain her basic health...that's her(our) circumstances. But...look, I'm on the path, as you all are. I make no claims for, or against another's. In the larger scheme of things, should (Heaven Forbid) the worst happen to you or anyone else it wouldn't really matter... It would be a choice, one of infinite choices we are free to make, many times, to learn. I just don't know if I wanna spend eight hundred bucks, my vacation, and all I am - and own - and be the one saying, " I went to Ojai, and all I got was this lousy Kundalini tee-shirt with the Kool Aid stains " ... ;] > We are all intelligent adults here, not cultists...we are perfectly capable of making our own decisions. > (Rex) Agreed, dear. As above.............so below! > Peace and Namaste to you, too, > Claudia P.S. As for the K-A, make mine Lemonade... Tex Rex > Pam <mystick53 wrote: > > You all don't know me, but as an interested spouse of one > potential " devotee " , who has read, among other posts, Becky's > declaration, and then Chrism's note to the rest, regarding said > declaration - and BTW, as a working person - I am in the WRONG LINE > OF WORK!!! I should have thought of this! (laughing) > > Seriously, as one who also practices yoga, meditation, and even my > own amalgam of many styles of internal and external martial arts, who > walks his own path and has achieved a sense of self, inner peace and > the ability to discern wheat from chaff, I would caution you all to > use your own. > > Your Volition (not power) rests NOT with another person, regimen, art > or teaching... to give that up carelessly, to 'surrender' it, is > tantamount to forsaking the sacred within. > > To all - peace and Namaste (The god in me acknowledges the god in > you) Just a reminder ... > > Tex Rex > > P.S Becky - you got it goin' on, girl! (wink) > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Hello Rex, I appreciate and honor the integrity and love and concern you demonstrate by even coming into this group and helping us understand your concerns. I understand that you had a difficult time with another situation that you may feel has similarities with us. So your cautions are well given and well received. This isn't a mind control by guru or a brainwashing by teacher or a scenario that exists anywhere else with regard to the purposeful activation and awakening of the Kundalini. These are teachings based on experience and given through aspects of experience that can help and heal and further a person on a path " of their choosing " . Nothing is being forced. Nothing is being hidden. Nothing is being set up to ensnare anyone. To surrender isn't the issue for many having difficulty with it. Loss of control is the real issue. Kundalini will demand that loss of control. I will demand that loss of control to go further into areas of the Kundalini that are given for me to teach. I am online. I am a cyber figure. Though I can reach through to others through it in ways not commonly experienced, I can be turned off on a whim. I have nothing published and am no more to you sir than piece of snow on an unclear channel of your television. " CLICK " and off I go! - lol. Your warnings are not consistent with an experience of Kundalini. This is the main point of divergence. Though you are one who could experience it and by virtue of your wife just may. If that occurs I would encourage you to completely surrender as well. Kundalini is present and activating in people on this world. It isn't being recognized and no paths except chemical cages, or teachings based in certain belief systems are being given. Most of those are Guru driven. People are dying and are being traumatized because of this lack of education and of knowledge. People are exploring Kundalini with out preparation and are having difficult life long experiences because of it. What we do here is a path. Not the only one either but one that if you have read the safeties you can understand comes from a basis in love and consideration for the process, for others, for the self, and for God. No where is it given for adulation or worship of a teacher. Or a Guru. Surrendering is not part of any process that will espouse qualities that are not based in the safeties as given here in this group and on the website that is given through this group. But it is a quality that I will insist on with in the guidelines of certain practices that are being offered. Surrender and forgiveness, gratitude and tolerance, honesty and trust are expected with the same high priority. This is the lay of the land here and is completely under the individuals control. - Blessings Texas Rex Mundi - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 It is good to think about things and question them at all times, and I feel totally comfortable surrendering to a teacher such as Chrism, I have known him for nearly two years and he has never taken my power away, only handed it to me on a plate. If at any time during my apprentiship I feel uncomfortable I am free to walk away, I will certainly always have discerment and my own inner voice intact, I know however that Kundalini/God/Source/Chrism will not guide me into darkness. And nor will my own inner teacher. I guess it depends what your idea of surrender is. I surrender to God, is God a slave driver? A cult leader? no, God is my loving parent who will give me tools but to gain these tools I will have to submit myself fully to the teachings. Whether I do it alone or with others guidance is up to me. Everyone has their own opinions/fears/ideas and that is how it is supposed to be. I honour all choices and respect all knowledge. Love Elektra x x x _________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit For Good http://uk.promotions./forgood/environment.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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