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dear chrism and k list... some thoughts and questions arose regarding

" surrender " while

doing the practice this morning: first of all we're dealing with the word

" surrender " that

can have many shades of meaning. there are also many concepts attached to this

word

and so in order to simplify and get to the point, i'll pose this question. is

chrism's idea of

" surrender " about giving up or sacrificing certain worldly activities, objects

and such? (kind

of like renunciation or Lent?) OR: is it about losing one's resistance (fear)

to the changes

that Shakti may demand for her own development? is surrender more at one of

these poles

of meaning or have i missed the point entirely? is it a combination of things?

i'll stop

babbling for now and let there be responses if any...

love to all!

-steve f

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I truly believe it's the second.. Well, at least for me. In my opinion

Kundalini can be healthy activated only in absence of fear, and if you

trust the energy.

 

 

 

 

, " gnilaeh1111 "

<gnilaeh1111 wrote:

>

> dear chrism and k list... some thoughts and questions arose

regarding " surrender " while

> doing the practice this morning: first of all we're dealing with the

word " surrender " that

> can have many shades of meaning. there are also many concepts

attached to this word

> and so in order to simplify and get to the point, i'll pose this

question. is chrism's idea of

> " surrender " about giving up or sacrificing certain worldly

activities, objects and such? (kind

> of like renunciation or Lent?) OR: is it about losing one's

resistance (fear) to the changes

> that Shakti may demand for her own development? is surrender more at

one of these poles

> of meaning or have i missed the point entirely? is it a combination

of things? i'll stop

> babbling for now and let there be responses if any...

> love to all!

> -steve f

>

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There is so much to be said about surrender. At one point in my life

I thought surrender was something you did when you ran out of

bullets.:)

 

My concept of surrender is that it is the willingness to let go of

our sercurity blanket. When we desire to step into a whole new world

we must often let go of the old one. We must be willing to do this!

 

Surrender is!

 

Surrender is total honesty, the kind that comes from the heart!

 

Surrender is letting go of our ego based self-will to embrace the

will of the spirit or the shakti.

 

Surrender is the willingness to let go of whatever is holding us from

stepping into our new world. We are always in control! We can

surrender a little and get a little. We can surrender a lot and get

a lot!

 

Spiritual growth requires us to step beyond the bounds of our

everyday world. To do this we must be " willing " to take that step!

 

Hope this helps!

 

Love and Light

Bob

 

P.S. We can always take back our surrender if it gets too

uncomfortable!

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Ah! Now people are asking the better questions. It is a combination of

those two poles Steve in my meaning and application of it. At first.

Then it expands as needed for the individual as Kundalini begins her

infusion. Nice going Steve! - c

 

, " gnilaeh1111 "

<gnilaeh1111 wrote:

first of all we're dealing with the word " surrender " that

> can have many shades of meaning.

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I like and agree with what you have said about surrender in this post

and in the other one, Bob. That is axactly what surrender means in a

christian sense as well.

 

Thanks,

Linda

 

, " mayaseas "

<mayaseas wrote:

>

> There is so much to be said about surrender. At one point in my

life

> I thought surrender was something you did when you ran out of

> bullets.:)

>

> My concept of surrender is that it is the willingness to let go of

> our sercurity blanket. When we desire to step into a whole new

world

> we must often let go of the old one. We must be willing to do this!

>

> Surrender is!

>

> Surrender is total honesty, the kind that comes from the heart!

>

> Surrender is letting go of our ego based self-will to embrace the

> will of the spirit or the shakti.

>

> Surrender is the willingness to let go of whatever is holding us

from

> stepping into our new world. We are always in control! We can

> surrender a little and get a little. We can surrender a lot and

get

> a lot!

>

> Spiritual growth requires us to step beyond the bounds of our

> everyday world. To do this we must be " willing " to take that step!

>

> Hope this helps!

>

> Love and Light

> Bob

>

> P.S. We can always take back our surrender if it gets too

> uncomfortable!

>

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Thank you for the post Bob! It brings to mind a little child

cruising furniture. There comes a point when they need to let go to

see if they can take some steps on their own without " support " . Then

they progress to running. I guess we will never fly if we aren't

bumped out of the nest!

 

Thank you again Bob.

 

Sarita

 

, " mayaseas "

<mayaseas wrote:

>

> There is so much to be said about surrender. At one point in my

life

> I thought surrender was something you did when you ran out of

> bullets.:)

>

> My concept of surrender is that it is the willingness to let go of

> our sercurity blanket. When we desire to step into a whole new

world

> we must often let go of the old one. We must be willing to do this!

>

> Surrender is!

>

> Surrender is total honesty, the kind that comes from the heart!

>

> Surrender is letting go of our ego based self-will to embrace the

> will of the spirit or the shakti.

>

> Surrender is the willingness to let go of whatever is holding us

from

> stepping into our new world. We are always in control! We can

> surrender a little and get a little. We can surrender a lot and

get

> a lot!

>

> Spiritual growth requires us to step beyond the bounds of our

> everyday world. To do this we must be " willing " to take that step!

>

> Hope this helps!

>

> Love and Light

> Bob

>

> P.S. We can always take back our surrender if it gets too

> uncomfortable!

>

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