Some secrets of surrender

[Guest guest]

There are certain traits that cannot be taken from a person with

out their permission. Free Will is one of these traits. As people

say they will surrender this and they will surrender that the free

will is always there though they may say they surrender it, it is

still there if the person has a change of heart or gets new

information.

 

Another aspect of this is that if you are surrendering to a person,

a teacher, there is no rule that indicates that they the teacher has

to do anything with that. They do not have to abuse or to " rule'

over a person and in the context of Kundalini it is in reality a

much heavier burden for that teacher as they must " get it right " or

they the teacher will suffer consequences. They must be the example

and they must teach others so that those can teach others and so

forth. And the teachings better be good. No avarice or greed or

selfishness or lust, gluttony, enforced servitude or other traits of

a teacher gone off their tracks. There are consequences for

teachers.

 

I have made this surrender to be as difficult as possible. For those

unprepared it is designed to chafe and irritate and a cause to

question themselves and perhaps eventually to talk themselves out of

it at that time. For those who are ready it isn't an issue.

 

This is so that the real surrendering will be to the Kundalini and

will be done by those who can actually do it. Loss of personal

control is one of the lessons that can come first. You do NOT want

to fight off a kriya for instance. Dietary changes and libido

changes and sensations that are foreign such as spinal widening all

must be completely surrendered to. Often that entails lifestyle

changes. These are only a few examples lets not forget the

dismemberments that can occur. The reorganizing of the physical and

astral and etheric bodies.

 

There is no loss of control or choice to the corporeal teacher. The

Kundalini on the other hand is far more strict and demanding but as

she isn't a person per se her teachings can have the quality of a

demand from with in and you better do it or else! Kundalini is a

consciousness with in a consciousness and if it tells you to jump be

assured there is a good reason for jumping whether you know on an

intellectual level or not.

 

For Kundalini a complete surrender is much desired as it then gives

the Kundalini the total freedom to help and to heal and change and

upgrade with out the little (i) or the ego getting in the way. And

this is done! This force can do all the miraculous healings and

manifestations that the ancients gave it credit for. It is the real

Master who loves you like a Mother.

 

This has been a test. A test of surrender.

 

The results are the thoughts you have harbored while the test was

being given. How did you feel about surrender? Surrender to chrism?

Surrender of total and complete control to another consciousness?

What did it make you feel about the direction of this group? And

your place in that direction? Were you uneasy? Did you say to your

self " that %$# & ^% chrism aint gonna get diddly #$^% squat from me! "

Did you think it was about chrism? Or were you ready and willing and

eager to step out into the path?

 

Some things to ponder.

 

Some here got pretty disgusted. Some got angry and down right

insulted. Some left. This is the way of it when it comes to control

and ego issues sometimes. It can get dramatic.

I still have not revealed the ultimate secret of surrender but these

aspects are pointing the way.

 

This is all about you. Your choices and the decisions you make. What

you believe and what you choose to react to. Is it fear of

domination or of not being in control? Just what are your fear

issues attached to the very idea of surrender? Is it only what you

do when the bullets run out as Bob mentioned?

 

Just some thoughts -

[Guest guest]

There have been times I have surrender because the bullets ran out.

LOL! Others times it was because my love grew so great, it was the

natural thing for me to do.

 

Linda

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> There are certain traits that cannot be taken from a person with

> out their permission. Free Will is one of these traits. As people

> say they will surrender this and they will surrender that the free

> will is always there though they may say they surrender it, it is

> still there if the person has a change of heart or gets new

> information.

>

> Another aspect of this is that if you are surrendering to a person,

> a teacher, there is no rule that indicates that they the teacher

has

> to do anything with that. They do not have to abuse or to " rule'

> over a person and in the context of Kundalini it is in reality a

> much heavier burden for that teacher as they must " get it right " or

> they the teacher will suffer consequences. They must be the example

> and they must teach others so that those can teach others and so

> forth. And the teachings better be good. No avarice or greed or

> selfishness or lust, gluttony, enforced servitude or other traits

of

> a teacher gone off their tracks. There are consequences for

> teachers.

>

> I have made this surrender to be as difficult as possible. For

those

> unprepared it is designed to chafe and irritate and a cause to

> question themselves and perhaps eventually to talk themselves out

of

> it at that time. For those who are ready it isn't an issue.

>

> This is so that the real surrendering will be to the Kundalini and

> will be done by those who can actually do it. Loss of personal

> control is one of the lessons that can come first. You do NOT want

> to fight off a kriya for instance. Dietary changes and libido

> changes and sensations that are foreign such as spinal widening all

> must be completely surrendered to. Often that entails lifestyle

> changes. These are only a few examples lets not forget the

> dismemberments that can occur. The reorganizing of the physical and

> astral and etheric bodies.

>

> There is no loss of control or choice to the corporeal teacher. The

> Kundalini on the other hand is far more strict and demanding but as

> she isn't a person per se her teachings can have the quality of a

> demand from with in and you better do it or else! Kundalini is a

> consciousness with in a consciousness and if it tells you to jump

be

> assured there is a good reason for jumping whether you know on an

> intellectual level or not.

>

> For Kundalini a complete surrender is much desired as it then gives

> the Kundalini the total freedom to help and to heal and change and

> upgrade with out the little (i) or the ego getting in the way. And

> this is done! This force can do all the miraculous healings and

> manifestations that the ancients gave it credit for. It is the real

> Master who loves you like a Mother.

>

> This has been a test. A test of surrender.

>

> The results are the thoughts you have harbored while the test was

> being given. How did you feel about surrender? Surrender to chrism?

> Surrender of total and complete control to another consciousness?

> What did it make you feel about the direction of this group? And

> your place in that direction? Were you uneasy? Did you say to your

> self " that %$# & ^% chrism aint gonna get diddly #$^% squat from me! "

> Did you think it was about chrism? Or were you ready and willing

and

> eager to step out into the path?

>

> Some things to ponder.

>

> Some here got pretty disgusted. Some got angry and down right

> insulted. Some left. This is the way of it when it comes to control

> and ego issues sometimes. It can get dramatic.

> I still have not revealed the ultimate secret of surrender but

these

> aspects are pointing the way.

>

> This is all about you. Your choices and the decisions you make.

What

> you believe and what you choose to react to. Is it fear of

> domination or of not being in control? Just what are your fear

> issues attached to the very idea of surrender? Is it only what you

> do when the bullets run out as Bob mentioned?

>

> Just some thoughts -

>